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Hackers and jokesters

Hi GS, haven't bothered you in a while, so I figured you missed me. I blocked KeroppiKid, a very strange new user (created September 26), who almost immediately opened up very bizarre subjects at the Teahouse having to do with problems at Simple and a couple of edits at the Wikipedia sandbox. Their editing at Simple is rather lively, and I just noticed this moment that they say on their userpage that Sharkoii is also their account here (I haven't blocked that account because I wasn't aware of it until now).

Both at Simple and here they started talking about their account being "hacked", apparently by their little brother (really, they need to come up with a different relative), and for that, plus so many edits that seemed more like trolling than anything else, I blocked them as WP:NOTHERE. I know I could have just blocked them as compromised, but I wasn't convinced that was the case.

They edited an article called List of Sanrio characters. One of the Japanese character toys is Keroppi, hence the username I suppose. YouAreGoingToSweden, a user blocked on September 25, one day before the KeroppiKid account was created, also edited the article. Then I started noticing other similarities between the two, e.g., editing the Wikipedia sandbox and opening up a weird thread at the Teahouse. They also edited Keroppi. A lot of coincidences, even if not everything adds up (YAGTS seems even younger and sillier than KeroppiKid). What do you think?--Bbb23 (talk) 14:16, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Bbb23: Hmm. Well, I'd call those three  Confirmed to one another - they're overlapping in a short space of time on a single IPv4 address, and separately on an IPv6 /64 range. I think most of their editing is coming from a school, there are a great many accounts on a small range with childish usernames, and a fair amount of petty vandalism coming from that range. I may have a poke about later and block some more accounts, or perhaps the whole range - I haven't come across anything constructive from it yet, but I need to step away from the screen. Girth Summit (blether) 14:34, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. Maybe after you're done, we can think about tagging. And what about global locks? A fair amount of cross-wiki abuse is involved here. I'm not real happy with the "relationship" the user has developed with Fr33kman, an administrator (former steward) at Simple, not that I blame Fr33kman, but the shennanigans are obvious, at least to cynical me.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:57, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Bbb23 let me know about this thread. There was a lot of nonsense over at User talk:Chompshark that resulted in me finding a slew of related accounts. See Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Chompshark. I didn't file an SPI because I uncovered this during an unblock request. Let me know if I can be helpful. --Yamla (talk) 18:31, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Something I noticed. Chompshark identified Special:contributions/204.116.209.221 as their IP. zzuuzz CU-blocked that IP on May 8, 2023, for 3 months. When I expanded that IP to Special:contributions/204.116.209.0/24, I noticed that you (GS) CU-blocked Special:contributions/204.116.209.198 today for 2 years. There has been recent disruption from other IPs in that range, so I've blocked the range for 3 months. And, as long as I'm here, please note "shark" in Chompshark and Sharkoii. I agree that all these IPs are probably school IPs. Back to you guys.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:59, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
As it happens, that range is currently mentioned in 2 places on my talk page. I've been trying to go light-touch on it for a while, as problems within it can be localised to some extent, but I've come to the conclusion that nailing the whole /24 is probably the only solution. It's been on my list of things to do. Greenville County School District, btw. As for the sockmasters, CUs can see my own opinion in the log, but I doubt it's definitive and it's not very consequential anyway, stemming from around May. -- zzuuzz (talk) 19:13, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Bbb23 I've taken another look at this this morning.
  • The following are definitely, unambiguously confirmed to one another: KeroppiKid, KeroSalt, Sharkoii. Those three overlap not only on the school IPs, but also on a separate /64 range. Looking at other accounts on the school's range, the following accounts don't show up on that /64, but I'd call them confirmed to the above because they've edited from the same specific IPs within minutes of the others (plus the behavioural similarities and article overlap): YouAreGoingToSweden, Chompshark.
  • After that, it gets a bit harder to be quite so confident. There is a lot of nonsense coming from the range, and the accounts are all technically indistinguishable. There is one extended confirmed account using the range, which appears to be doing good work and which has been editing productively at the same time as the disruptive accounts have been active on different IPs within the range - I'm confident they're unrelated. There is another account which I am not less confident about - it could be the same person as KeroppiKid, but I think it's more probably just a newb doing newb stuff, and I'm inclined to leave them alone.
  • Then there are numerous other accounts, mostly unused, some with names like I.eat.yummy.toes., Chanceisstupid, EllisIsHot, Balls1234WTF and such like. The ones with the obviously disruptive usernames are blocked, but some of them aren't - they might have been created in good faith by folk who happen to share the connection, I guess we can deal with them as and when they start editing.
As for the cross-wiki stuff - I dunno, might be worth requesting global lock on the confirmed accounts, since they do seem to be up to some shenanigans on Simple. I don't know why Fr33kman has been giving them so much of his time, maybe he just has more AGF left in his reservoir than some of us. Girth Summit (blether) 10:57, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
Thanks, GS. This is what I propose. I will file a pro forma SPI. This will make it easier to tag and request global locks with the script. The master will be Sharkoii (the oldest account, not just in terms of creation but first edit). All of the above accounts will be included in the case, and all the tags will be confirmed. I don't see any downside, and the upside is to have a case going forward in case more accounts pop up. What do you think? Yamla?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:41, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
Works for me. Girth Summit (blether) 14:30, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, I'll add the resulting SPI page to my watchlist. :( --Yamla (talk) 17:20, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 Done. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sharkoii.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:15, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

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Raj Hanse

Hi, could this edit be a sock of Raj Hanse (talk · contribs), who was recently blocked itself as a sock account? The use of first person singular with reference to sources already given by Raj does seem rather telling. - Sitush (talk) 19:32, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Don't know for sure; I don't think it's the same person, but they've only made two edits since 2022, so I don't have a lot of data to go on. They seem to be indicating that they're willing to drop the stick, maybe just wait and see, report it if there's more evidence. Girth Summit (blether) 11:58, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

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This IP might be rajput bhatti

Special:Contributions/223.123.3.239

I also have a feeling this might also be their account

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Thobla

Since they edit in religion of country pages and was created after the previous accounts were blocked

Actually they are they reverted a edit from a user to one of their older editd from a sock puppet account

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bulgaria&oldid=1182805879

Also another ip making similar edits

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/182.177.6.68


This IP has readded the previous edits of rajput bhatti Barbardo (talk) 18:35, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi - I'm going to bed soon, I'm not going to be able to look at this for hours. You've left multiple message so I assume it's urgent - consider AIV? Cheers Girth Summit (blether) 23:22, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Okay I just wanted to say rajputbhatti is back. Barbardo (talk) 13:25, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
You were right - I've blocked the account, as well as Nirmest. Feel free to revert anything they've done. No comment on the IPs... Girth Summit (blether) 13:33, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

apropos of nothing

Security Guard: From outer space, an alien.
Bruce Banner: No.
Security Guard: Well then son, you've got a condition. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:06, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

You're seeing something I'm not about those former usernames by the way - what am I missing? Girth Summit (blether) 11:13, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
Nothing that meaningful. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:06, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

What do you think?

What do you think about Pladero? I kept thinking I could figure out on my own who the master is, but I could not. I even looked at Wikiquote, where the editor created new pages and then "incorporated" them here, to see if that gave me any hints, but it didn't. So, here are the details:

  1. Account created October 15, 2023, and has a whopping 2,066 edits
  2. Strong focus on creating interlocking - and some very strange - categories
  3. Focus on disambig pages
  4. Creates redirects
  5. Edits portal space
  6. Assesses article Talk pages
  • That's certainly enough to demonstrate they are not a new user.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:39, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
It's OOODDD. I've no idea who that is, or why they're blocked, but I interpreted this comment as an admission that they are a sock of a blocked account, so I ran a check. Do you think it's worth mass rollbacking? Girth Summit (blether) 08:29, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
Aargh, I missed that nasty comment on Liz's Talk page, would have made everything easier, at least in requesting the check. With the kinds of things the user did, I'm going to do more of a selective mass delete, don't know about rolling back edits themselves. I need to take a look-see as I just got on Wikipedia (couldn't sleep) and saw your ping. By the way, Edward-Woodrow, whom you mentioned on Pladero's Talk page, is not an admin.--Bbb23 (talk) 11:44, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, I knew they're not an admin, but I saw the username hanging around a couple of the unblock requests on the older accounts and they seem to be a reasonable experienced editor - if they came across their edits in the past, I reasoned that they might do so again, and it doesn't hurt to have non-admins aware of the situation so they can report future recurrences to at SPI. Girth Summit (blether) 11:50, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
By the way, I did a first pass on their contribs already and deleted any page creations that weren't redirects, disambig pages or templates/categories. Those might still warrant a review, but there are too many of them for me to look at in a free period at work... Girth Summit (blether) 11:52, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
That's fine, it's just that you called him an admin in your comment. We must've crossed. I did a mass rollback after all (much easier to delete empty cats than ones with pages in them) and then deleted a huge number of cats (all that I saw anyway). Also deleted a draft and a template (after undoing the links to it). Just like you, I left the redirects and disambig Talk pages alone, too much analysis in my view needed before deleting to make sure I don't make things worse by deletion. I'm done now. If you want to continue later when you have some time, that's up to you. Oh, and I never thanked you for the check: thanks. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 12:28, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

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All the articles and drafts created by User:Fancy vibēs about castes and dynasties are hoaxes. It seems they have created numerous fake articles by copying names and information from existing dynasties, and these should be deleted. There are Parmar, Parmar, Himachal Pradesh, Parmar Nagar, Parmar (Jat clan), Tomar Gurjar (clan), Chechens in Kyrgyzstan and Hun clan.

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I've deleted them all per G5, except for Hun clan, which had a significant amount of attention from another editor; I've asked that editor if they think the article should still exist, or if they'd be happy with deletion (since most of their edits were to remove dubious content rather than to add anything). Girth Summit (blether) 13:16, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
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SPI

Thanks for the early spot with Malaisei here. Behaviour clearly matches Kung Hibbe, but we'd never have noticed it from such a short contribution history without CU. Certes (talk) 19:46, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

No worries - that's what the tool's for, I wouldn't have spotted it myself without the technical data (although once I'd seen the account editing from the same IPs, the behaviour made it a done deal). Girth Summit (blether) 20:13, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

random?

I never think of you as random. More like foreordained. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:37, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Ha! FWIW, I always think of you when I revoke TPA. You have huge patience to have worked the UTRS queue as long as you have. 'We're sick of your shit here onwiki - go talk to DFO...' Girth Summit (blether) 21:09, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

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Aw - that was a great category, why do you nasty admins delete my cool stuff? Girth Summit (blether) 20:10, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Finese

Sorry, fresh out. Will adopt and adapt, but could not improve. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:44, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

UTRS is not user friendly. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:45, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
I should have expected as much - I tried to get into VTRS a couple of times, but ended up staring at the screen scratching my head for a looong time... Girth Summit (blether) 21:52, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

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Some time ago you blocked the master

in Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Thakor Sumant Sinhji Jhala and now 2409:40D6:D:5D99:8000:0:0:0 has created Draft:Devi Movement which was of interest to the master. Is it sufficient to mention this to you or should I create an SPI for this IP and the master? 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 12:09, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Overtaken by events, another editor has opened a new SPI, though I doubt it can go anywhere 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 17:00, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sock puppet and COI complaint

Hi, I am complaining about the freelancer continuously publishing spams in return of payments. She is from Dubai and below is her Upwork profile where you can find the evidence:

https://www.upwork.com/freelancers/~01bfb4d3cfe85e7304

Below are the pages, she published in return of payments:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transkriptor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Penn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webz.io

Also, you can see the feedback on her profile which means she is continuously violating Wikipedia TOS. Also, she is created many accounts for publishing spams. 39.48.3.223 (talk) 21:28, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Defeedme IP range

I've ID'd the IP range that Defeedme is using anonymously. There are 18 recent edits that are definitely them; I suspect many (maybe as much as 90%) of the scattered other edits in that range are also them, because the style is similar, but there's no hard proof because those don't directly involve me or their own block. Since you are familiar with the case, I wanted to notify you. Thanks. Wes sideman (talk) 15:03, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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No need to read the article, but Park Loop Road (which I created recently) is partly tolled and partly freely accessed. Because of this, it is my contention that the article should be part of both Category:Roads in Maine and Category:Toll roads in Maine, even though the former is the parent. Thoughts? Seasider53 (talk) 11:28, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

rajput bhatti sock is back

Special:Contributions/Indapamide


Is restoring their old edits. Barbardo (talk) 14:28, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

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Sockpuppet

Hello. This new account آفریغ is another sockpuppet account of blocked User:Hisksjueeu. 175.106.53.175 (talk) 21:06, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

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Lack of service

Apologies, talk page watchers, for my recent absence. A lot of stuff going on offline - I haven't been intentionally staying away, there's just been one thing after another. Hope to be back at it in the days to come. Happy new year one and all. Girth Summit (blether) 18:30, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Glad to see you pop up again. Had been worried about your radio silence. Happy 2024! Star Mississippi 13:47, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
Nothing to worry about - work was manic with various things in the run up to the end of term, and then it was the Christmas hols and I was driving up and down the length of the country to see relatives, in-laws and friends - just didn't seem to have time for it. Back to normal now though with the start of the new term. Girth Summit (blether) 13:57, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Now that you're back ...

Nice to see you resume your good work. Ever the opportunist, compare Pinkjart with Drsftufy. Drsftufy has only one edit and that is to add a pictue to Riccardo Matlakas, an article created by Pinkjart. Both use the visual editor. Similar edit summaries. Also the master has a terrible history at Commons with every image they've created having been deleted. I'm surprised they haven't been blocked for so many copyright violations. Last item: the master's userpage says "I started creating and editing wiki pages in 2020." The account was created last month. I think there's enough for me to block behaviorally, but a check might disclose other accounts. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:00, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

The following accounts are all operating out of the same IP, within days of each other: Pinkjart, Drsftufy, MlimaMoja (globally locked and blocked here as a sock), Sheapill (globally locked and blocked here as a sock of a different master - I'm certain that it's the same user as MlimaMoja), OranMax, MonkeyBitter. I'm not 100% certain, but colour me fairly confident that it's all the same person. I've got to dash though - can you take the action needed? Girth Summit (blether) 18:32, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
I blocked the unblocked accounts you noted. I wasn't sure how to tag. Could you please do that when you return, or tell me what tags you wish and I'll take care of it? Also, I think all of these accounts should be globally locked, but I hate going to Meta to do that. Maybe you could do that? Finally, glancing at some of the edits of the socks, I noticed Koitaleel. Looked the same to me. Thanks for your help.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:54, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
Ok, I'll look at this properly next time I've got a minute. There's definitely at least two SPI cases implicated, a non-zero number of articles that will want G5ing, and some locks to be put in place. Cheers Girth Summit (blether) 19:07, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
Koitaleel was very likely, technically, to the others. Looks like this is all Aniflower. Will raise a proforma SPI case and tag/request locks from there. Girth Summit (blether) 11:24, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

FYI

Reference this, I believe they are back. Will likely let them edit a little to in order to confirm the editing behavior. I also think I filed the original for the wrong master as it should be this. Thanks for CU and block on the other. CNMall41 (talk) 06:28, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

 Technically indistinguishable. Will go back and look at the tags/case later, gotta run. Girth Summit (blether) 09:41, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
Think I've sorted out the tags. Girth Summit (blether) 10:53, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Question

This is about Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/あすぺるがあすぺしゃりすと. When blocking in a previous case I didn't add tags since I felt that there were too many accounts that applying tags just wastes the database with useless revisions. Blablubbs didn't for another case either. In other cases other admins/CUs have applied tags. Do you think this is a case where we should put the template notice that recommends not tagging? 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 14:47, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

In a case like that, I wouldn't normally add tags. However, with usernames like those, which have characters from scripts I'm unfamiliar with, and which appear in batches that are very similar to one another, I actually find the tags helpful because it makes it very clear which ones I've processed and which ones I haven't (I run a script that marks accounts tagged as socks with coloured Ms and Ps). Essentially, I was marking them off with tags as I made my way through them. There's probably a more efficient way of doing that, and if anyone would know better than me it would be Blablubbs, but it did the job that I wanted it to. Girth Summit (blether) 15:11, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
Sorry, only getting to this now. If you're asking how I organise checks with large numbers of socks on disparate ranges so that I know who has and hasn't been checked: I mostly rely on a script which highlights – among other things – a) whether a target has ever been checked and b) whether I was the most recent person to do so. If you're asking how I organise those checks so that I know who is and isn't related, that's a bit trickier. If it gets really complicated, I usually take notes either on the case itself, on cuwiki, or in the SPIhelper preview. I sometimes also just block accounts right as I find them, so that I don't "discover" and note them down multiple times. Hope that makes sense(?). --Blablubbs (talk) 11:29, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, it was a bit like that, but I didn't think making notes would help me - it was one of those cases with dozens of socks with very similar usernames written in non-Latin scripts. Essentially, they all looked like bunches of identical squiggles to my ignorant eyes, so I needed a way of making sure that I'd checked and blocked all of the reported accounts; and all of the ones that were coming up in my searches. I found tagging them, so they show up with the red P next to them in both lists, worked nicely. Girth Summit (blether) 12:55, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

National Iranian American Council

Hi, I stumbled across the above article while patrolling Recent changes - not an article or topic area that I would normally have any interest in. I just fully protected the article because of contentious editing by new users James Bertrand 8 (not as new but a large gap and not many edits, especially to anything but the article and its Talk page), STOPNIAC (blocked), and Just want to make some quick edits here (socky username and clear WP:SPA). Behaviorally, it's too hard for me to sort out the editors' POVs, but my suspicion is that Just want and STOPNIAC are related, and Bertrand is suspicious as well but unlikely to be a sock of one or the other user.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:45, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

STOPNIAC and James Bertrand 8 are the same person - I've blocked JB8. Just want appears to be using proxies. Girth Summit (blether) 17:03, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Called that one wrong. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:18, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
What do you think I should do with the article now? Lift the protection? Revert JB8's last edit per WP:BANREVERT? Both? --Bbb23 (talk) 17:25, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
I think the protection is probably warranted - I wouldn't be at all surprised if JB8 were to return in one form or another in the near future. I share your concerns about the 'Just want' account - they are raising a lot of red flags. However, I've seen enough sock-on-sock edit wars to be wary of the dangers of wading in blind and reverting the hell out of everyone, and I know almost nothing about the subject matter so I would not be the right person to determine if one or other of them is 'right'. Might be worth raising it at a relevant Wikiproject to see if an experienced editor wants to cast an eye over the recent changes? Girth Summit (blether) 17:31, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
I think I'll just leave the whole thing be. If I were to notify a project and yet leave the protection in place, I'd have to monitor the whole thing, acting as a sort of intermediary, not something I want to do. The page has about 50 page watchers. Perhaps it'll get some reasonable suggestions on the Talk page. Honestly, I try to avoid all articles related to the Middle East.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:45, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Checkuser request

Hi Girth Summit. Could you please check Rsmaravi and Qazwsxedc789? It looks like they abandoned the latter account to avoid being blocked after multiple warnings. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 22:47, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Sure. Rsmaravi is a  Confirmed sock of the blocked account Anuj.251 - no doubt whatsoever. Qazwsxedc789 is less obvious, technically, but they overlap with Rsmaravi on two separate ranges and there is nothing to distinguish them technically. I've blocked both. Girth Summit (blether) 23:08, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 23:13, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Just noticed

Your check/cheque/czech userboxes. That's my kind of wit. I think Douglas Adams (or maybe Pterry) wrote somewhere that puns are considered a capital offense in some cultures, and Bill on True Blood told us "You have to understand, most vampires are very old. Puns used to be a very appreciated form of humor." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:28, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

And the master is...

Hi, I just blocked Enigma Enforcer as a sock, but I'm not sure who the master is. I've blocked IPs recently with the same edit summaries ("ban evasion WP:BKFIP"). They all geolocate to England (same country as BKFIP himself), and maybe that's who they are. See, e.g., Special:contributions/194.74.135.100. They generally revert my edits. EE tried to attack me at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Vujkovica brdo, but were prevented by the filter log, but then the now-blocked sock, Bocin kolega made the same edit that EE tried to make (I reverted it). Yet England is not the right location for Vb's socks, so I find that more puzzling than helpful. I know you can't say anything about the IPs, but a check of EE might reveal information that you can disclose. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:32, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

More data for you: Mischief Maestro.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:43, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
Fun usernames: Whimsy Warlock.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:58, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
Not sure who it is. They're confirmed to a bunch of throwaway accounts like Accomplished Dough, Hater of Dill and a few others; all of the IPs I've seen them on are currently blocked, and I don't see any unblocked accounts. Doesn't feel like BKFIP, but I couldn't rule it out. Girth Summit (blether) 20:05, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
I'll add that the IP they use most frequently has quite a long block log, and a lot of racist trolling in its logged out contribs. Again, that doesn't feel like BKFIP to me (although I'm not over-familiar with that case). Girth Summit (blether) 20:08, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
Some of the edits by some of the socks have a thing against Horse Eye's Back (see, e.g., Hater of Dill's edits). Maybe they have some idea of who it is.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:19, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
Its BKFIP, see Symphony of Chaos (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) for example. One thing to note on the actual IPs is that most of the historical edits aren't BKFIP, they're primarily hopping around a UK mobile provider's stockpile of IPs so there are often earlier unconnected edits. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 14:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
I'm don't really understand your comments other than your opinion that this is BKFIP. Speaking technically only, BKFIP used to be fairly easy to identify. Perhaps that's changed since I ran checks against him. I've gone ahead and tagged the recent accounts as confirmed to Accomplished Dough, the oldest of them. At least it will provide an anchor to connect any future socking.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
There have been IPs where only the most recent edits appeared to be BKFIP. My own experience with BKFIP has been less than a calendar year long, this is the edit where I apparently got their goat[1] and afterwords became a target (you will notice that the phrase "bullshit" subsequently began appearing in much of their vandalism). Horse Eye's Back (talk) 15:43, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Request to check profusely editing sock

Hi Girth Summit! Could you please take a look at the case currently at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SheryOfficial? I'm really 100% sure it's them (what I wrote e.g. here equally applies to this account too) and they're editing quite profusely. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 12:53, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Done. Girth Summit (blether) 15:34, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Very weird ...

If you have a moment, you might want to look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lineargraphing and the apparent aftermath at Cyprus76's Talk page. It's all very weird.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:18, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

There's something fishy going on. Cyprus76, Endersslay and Lineargraphing are all very clearly closely connected - aside from the fact they're all chatting back and forth on one another's user talk pages, they are also editing from the same couple of IPs at the same times of day, often within minutes of one another, and they are using near-identical AUs. The only reason I haven't already blocked them all is that they are not all using the exact same UA at the same times - one will be using a slightly different version number. It might be consistent with (for example) students using a shared bank of devices, some of which have downloaded an update and some of which haven't; naturally, it would also be consistent with one person using two such devices to chat to themselves and generally mess about. Whatever is the case, I don't buy for a second that they don't all know each other. Girth Summit (blether) 14:41, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
It's all a bit much for me to stomach. See, e.g., User:Endersslay/Imperial Cabal.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:48, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Meh. There are enough admins with userboxes about cabals (extant and otherwise) and rougeness that I could imagine some newbs thinking that they're just playing along with an in joke. Could be three kids in a computer lab together, or one person just doing weird stuff to amuse themselves - I expect I did some fairly silly stuff when I was seventeen and the internet was in its infancy. I'd probably wait to see whether either of the other two come clean about the connection and give a passable explanation. Girth Summit (blether) 16:00, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Twice in one day

Aren't you the lucky one? I blocked two accounts last November, Self made theory, the older account, and My self made theory, the twin. Now because one of them is still on my watchlist, I noticed Bshshajajajajj, created a few weeks after my blocks, editing on their behalf. I'm not quite comfortable blocking the latest account as a sock, but I do think there's enough evidence to warrant a check.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:08, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Well, I'll offer you It's Self made theory as  Confirmed, and Bshshajajajajj is very likely to them - both already blocked (by me, just now). On one of the IPs that the group used, I also stumbled across the already-blocked Vadoxit1gsuper, and their confirmed alt account Goonall. Looks like UPE - don't know if they're connected to your little group, there was a bit of a time gap and fairly generic UAs. Can you figure out the tags? Girth Summit (blether) 18:31, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Doesn't look like Vadox and Goonall are connected to the others, or at least there's insufficient behavioral evidence to connect them. Okay if I just tag the ones that are confirmed, and proven for Bshshajajajajj? --Bbb23 (talk) 18:43, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Of course, do what you think best - I didn't really look at the behaviour much. Girth Summit (blether) 19:19, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 Done --Bbb23 (talk) 20:41, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you for bringing - per community consensus - the Medal of Joy to my talk! As you know, I have a DYK on the Main page, but my story would be different, about Figaro, - this Figaro. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:01, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:44, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

You certainly rack up a lot of DYKs! I took a look at your 'stories' page, it's pretty impressive. (The ordering is a bit weird though - I'm sure there'd be a way to list them in date order rather than alphabetically. I'm speculating though - I don't really know how to do that...) Girth Summit (blether) 13:53, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
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I wonder where you looked. The Stories are by calendar, beginning 1 January. The index is sortable by many things. -Yesterday was a friend's birthday, with related music. - I'm on vacation - see places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:17, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
I looked here. When I look at it, it's ordering them alphanumerically rather than by date order, so all the January dates from 2023 and 2024 are bunched together with 2023 dates and 2024 dates mixed up (e.g. 12 Jan 2024, 13 Jan 2023, 14 Jan 2023, 15 Jan 2024...). I'll be on vacation myself in just over a week - going to visit my brother in Edinbugh, he moved into a new house yesterday. Girth Summit (blether) 09:17, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

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Hey, Joseywales1961 - sorry, I was away for a few weeks over Christmas, and I've just noticed this. Is that your dog? Gorgeous - I want to give her tummy rubs :) Girth Summit (blether) 18:29, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ramos1990

I want to close the above case as a scattershot report and without merit. I just closed Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Phoenixhill, which attacks the filer of the Ramos case. Both users have been going at each other in another dispute and have carried it over to SPI. The reason I haven't closed the Ramos one is because of the filer's reference to Ticket:2024011710009412, which, of course, I can't see. I suspect the "CU Team"'s "invitation" to file the report was not based on any merit the report had but simply that you folk would not review it outside of SPI. Is it okay if I close the report? --Bbb23 (talk) 16:56, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, Beeb - I am still to make good on my ambition to invest the time needed to get my head around using the VRT system. Perhaps GeneralNotability or Blablubbs (or any other friendly talk page watcher with the correct permissions) would be willing to take a look. Girth Summit (blether) 17:09, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
Ha! I don't remember there being a VRT system when I was a CU, but maybe I just didn't know about it. I'll wait to see if either CU responds.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:17, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Hate to beg, but here I am begging

Saw you were online for another SPI and hoping maybe, possibly, pretty please, you can have a look at this one since they are still adding and removing content while awaiting CU results. Understand its a lot of accounts so no big deal if you don't. CNMall41 (talk) 21:28, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi - this came in after I logged out yesterday, sorry. I'll try to get a chance to look at it today, but you're right, there's a lot to unpick there. As an aside, is there a reason why you listed several socks that are already blocked and tagged in your most recent filing? Just as a matter of keeping the record straightforward for the archive, it's generally better to list the active accounts in the 'suspected socks' bit; if you want us to compare against particular accounts, you can link to them in the rationale for the finding. Girth Summit (blether) 10:25, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
Remember when you were only asked things about obscure architects from the 16th century? Seasider53 (talk) 11:23, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
Ah, peaceful days! Girth Summit (blether) 11:25, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
First of all, thank you for all the work here. I know it was a chore and takes away from your enjoyment of editing other things on Wikipedia. You did a thorough job! If you were in Cali I'd buy you dinner. Noted about the other accounts. I listed them since they were all editing the same pages as the new socks and thought it would be easier for a CU to see but will do as you stated going forward. Again, huge thanks!!!!!! --CNMall41 (talk) 01:49, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Cricket Butterfly

Does this ever end? lol Seriously, appreciate all the work. I think it actually bleeds into AfC but want to make sure the dots are connected completely before filing that one. CNMall41 (talk) 19:41, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Sometimes once you start pulling on a thread, you don't know when it will end! I should be thanking you for reporting them and writing up all the evidence - we're both on the same team. Girth Summit (blether) 19:48, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
I honestly cannot make this up. I just found another string which I am filing a new report on now (going with Cricket Butterfly although it overlaps). I started to request G5 on some of the creations from Milli's Boy but going to leave them for edit history (I need to email some private evidence for other accounts involved - pretty clear system gaming). --CNMall41 (talk) 05:22, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
I sent email to check user address as well as you through Wiki as I am unsure if they received any of my previous responses. If you see the same thing I am seeing (once you read the evidence) it may be a wider web than I originally thought. --CNMall41 (talk) 05:33, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Just FYI

Hello Girth Summit! Since you often handle this LTA's cases at SPI, I just wanted to let you know that I posted this request: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Mass-rollback for LTA. Kind regards, ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 15:44, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

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Please block this sockpuppet

Hello, I saw you were involve in blocking FYE31. Since then, they have made two more sockpuppets that were also blocked, Canofsoup1 and DLCY89*. You can compare their edit histories to see the trend: broken English, an exclusive fixation on local elections in California, and an obsessive drive to remove gray colored bars from election infoboxes. They have now made a new account: Qpi361. They've only made a few edits so far, but it's clearly the same person; broken English, local elections in California, and removing gray colored bars from infoboxes. Please block then (and do an IP ban or something, if possible).BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 20:12, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Looks like Bbb23 got there before me. I'm not super-active at the moment, work is crazy, so any future reports would probably be better made at SPI than here - you can use WP:TWINKLE to make reports, it's pretty straightforward. Hope to be back on an even keel at work soon, and back in the SPI saddle... Girth Summit (blether) 21:33, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
Me too! --Bbb23 (talk) 00:45, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

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I was reading about Roman history (especially Julius Caesar) and I was very intrigued by Marcus Brutus' character, but I am confused as to why he was mentioned as a coward in some places.


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