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Administrators' newsletter – August 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2022).

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Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC has been closed with consensus to add javascript that will show edit notices for editors editing via a mobile device. This only works for users using a mobile browser, so iOS app editors will still not be able to see edit notices.
  • An RfC has been closed with the consensus that train stations are not inherently notable.

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  • The Wikimania 2022 Hackathon will take place virtually from 11 August to 14 August.
  • Administrators will now see links on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. (T308570)

Arbitration

  • The arbitration case request Geschichte has been automatically closed after a 3 month suspension of the case.

Miscellaneous

  • You can vote for candidates in the 2022 Board of Trustees elections from 16 August to 30 August. Two community elected seats are up for election.
  • Wikimania 2022 is taking place virtually from 11 August to 14 August. The schedule for wikimania is listed here. There are also a number of in-person events associated with Wikimania around the world.
  • Tech tip: When revision-deleting on desktop, hold ⇧ Shift between clicking two checkboxes to select every box in that range.

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Question from Professor-Andrews (05:31, 22 August 2022)

I'm looking for the donation option. I've used Wikipedia for years and finally joined it recently. --Professor-Andrews (talk) 05:31, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello Professor-Andrews! If you want to donate you can do that at donate.wikimedia.org or in the sidebar where there's a donate option. --Trialpears (talk) 12:19, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Professor-Andrews (17:35, 23 August 2022)

Hi, I got a notification for Request for Admin for a page. I'm interested in becoming more involved with wikipedia articles concerning some of the indigenous communities. I've been making correct edits to Kizh, Tongva and Toypurina. I've been backing up all my edits with sources while removing disinformation and opinion pieces on their culture. --Professor-Andrews (talk) 17:35, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2022).

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  • A discussion is open to define a process by which Vector 2022 can be made the default for all users.
  • An RfC is open to gain consensus on whether Fox News is reliable for science and politics.

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Arbitration

  • An arbitration case regarding Conduct in deletion-related editing has been closed. The Arbitration Committee passed a remedy as part of the final decision to create a request for comment (RfC) on how to handle mass nominations at Articles for Deletion (AfD).
  • The arbitration case request Jonathunder has been automatically closed after a 6 month suspension of the case.

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  • The new pages patrol (NPP) team has prepared an appeal to the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) for assistance with addressing Page Curation bugs and requested features. You are encouraged to read the open letter before it is sent, and if you support it, consider signing it. It is not a discussion, just a signature will suffice.
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Question from Nickgmitter (03:00, 3 September 2022)

hello! Glad to see I have a mentor. Nice to meet you. I am nick.

I have a friend who is credited on Post Malone's page's but doesn't have a page. I wrote one up and formatted and had references but I cannot find it anywhere on here in my profile. --Nickgmitter (talk) 03:00, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

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The name "Turkey"

Hi! You changed the name "Turkey" to the native Turkish spelling in an article. While it may be the new Turkish-government-endorsed name of Turkey in the English language, it is not the one we use here in the English-language Wikipedia: please see WP:COMMONNAME for the relevant policy. I've fixed your edit; could you please update your table-generation code so that it follows the English Wikipedia convention for this? — The Anome (talk) 10:35, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Hey @The Anome! Long time no see! Definitely not intentional, the issue arises from the UN always using the official names (Côte d'Ivoire, Russian Federation, Brunei Darussalam etc) so a good 10% or so needs to be changed manually when importing the data from the new report. Just missed Turkey apparently.
I didn't know we had an edit filter for this though! If this is successful I feel it may be useful to expand to more country names since there are a lot of them with variants that usually shouldn't be used. --Trialpears (talk) 10:56, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Hi! We probably need a mapping table of official name -> COMMONNAME. Since enwiki country articles use the WP:COMMONNAME, by policy, maybe this mapping could be pulled from Wikidata with a SPARQL query. — The Anome (talk) 11:24, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
I think the following from the HDI article is reasonably comprehensive when talking about only official short names. If we start talking about long names we will get a large majority of countries even if noone uses the long names like Kingdom of Sweden.
  • Hong Kong SAR -> Hong Kong (I've seen many variations here and not as official because China)
  • Macau SAR -> Macau (same here)
  • Republic of China -> Taiwan (also "Chinese Taipei" and the debated status)
  • Republic of Korea -> South Korea
  • Türkiye -> Turkey
  • Brunei Darussalam -> Brunei
  • Russian Federation -> Russia
  • Islamic Republic of Iran -> Iran
  • Republic of Moldova -> Moldova
  • State of Palestine -> Palestine
  • Viet Nam -> Vietnam
  • Plurinational State of Bolivia -> Bolivia
  • Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela -> Venezuela
  • Cabo Verde -> Cape Verde
  • Federated States of Micronesia -> Micronesia
  • Lao People’s Democratic Republic -> Laos
  • Timor-Leste -> East Timor
  • Kingdom of Eswatini -> Eswatini (This name change somehow seems to have went smoothly maybe because it's a less well known country)
  • Syrian Arab Republic -> Syria
  • Côte d’Ivoire -> Ivory Coast
  • United Republic of Tanzania -> Tanzania
  • Democratic People’s Republic of Korea -> North Korea.
Also gotta mention Congo. Apparently the official short name of Republic of the Congo is simply Congo which will never create confusion while the Democratic Republic of the Congo doesn't have a short name.
This page seems to be essentially complete with both short and long names (essentially because it looks slightly outdated with Swaziland and no mention of Czechia). www.un.int/protocol/sites/www.un.int/files/Protocol%20and%20Liaison%20Service/officialnamesofcountries.pdf. --Trialpears (talk) 11:59, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from Professor-Andrews (23:21, 9 September 2022)

Hi, I'm trying to reset my password but it won't send it to my email. I've checked my spam folder and it's not there. Thanks. --Professor-Andrews (talk) 23:21, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

A bit difficult to help you there, but my best guess would be that you've misspelled the email you gave. You can see and change it in the preferences. --Trialpears (talk) 00:28, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
@Professor-Andrews And a ping. --Trialpears (talk) 00:29, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

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PearBOT: Updating template caches (for portals) failure

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Administrators' newsletter – October 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2022).

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  • The Articles for creation helper script now automatically recognises administrator accounts which means your name does not need to be listed at WP:AFCP to help out. If you wish to help out at AFC, enable AFCH by navigating to Preferences → Gadgets and checking the "Yet Another AfC Helper Script" box.

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Question from Tumelo tona on Talk:Guardian angel (06:57, 7 October 2022)

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For me by Tumelo Tona me --Tumelo tona (talk) 06:57, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

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Trouble with pages being drastically modified

Hello,

There seem to be some problems on the List of countries by GDP (nominal) per capita and List of countries by GDP (PPP) per capita pages. A user called Groverlynn wishes to drastically alter the format of these articles & refuses to have the latest IMF data, for this year, shown -- insisting it is wrong & only previous years should be used instead... other users have objected to these unilateral decisions, but to no avail. Perhaps someone can intervene?

Thank you! Dhyana b (talk) 23:01, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

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Question from The Eighth Dimensions (09:49, 29 October 2022)

hello i am interested in speaking about potentailly offering my time to assist with anything cause i would like to get to know some people online and also show some of my skills all self taught and learned free on the internet. --kellyiskey The Eighth Dimensions (talk) 09:49, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello @The Eighth Dimensions! I'm happy to hear you want to start editing Wikipedia! There are lots of ways to help out but I would recommend starting out by choosing a subject you're interested in and improve articles about it. As a Swede I found subjects related to my country a great starting point. Some problems you can fix are mentioned in maintenance banners on top of the article or in [citation needed] tags in the text. If you see such message there's usually a link to some instructions. You may also find that something is missing from an article in which case you can look for sources that talk about it and add information based on the sources. If you want to do this or fix [citation needed] tags I would recommend reading our introduction to referencing.
I also want to say congrats on learning English! It's not easy and I hope you can learn a lot from helping out here. One piece of feedback though: Anything you write in articles should use punctuation marks (mainly .) and capitalization at the start of sentences (A instead of a). It's very possible that you get some comments about your English and if so you should listen to it.
If you have more questions I'm happy to help out and I suspect that I've been in a similar situation to you with regards to improving my English online even though it was quite some time ago. --Trialpears (talk) 23:40, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Seth Moorhead (14:11, 29 October 2022)

Hello. I would like to provide you with a new definition of GRAVITY. The current definition should be updated. it is not an attraction of bodies but seems to be. It is the pressure generated by all the rays emitted by all the stars. --Seth Moorhead (talk) 14:11, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Hey @Seth Moorhead. I'm not really sure if you're serious or not. In case your not I would recommend leaving Wikipedia, we're not known for being fun to troll and have better stuff to do.
In case you are serious I can say that your definition isn't the generally accepted explanation. You may have found someone that says something like you claim, but to add new information to Wikipedia you need a reliable source for it and I suspect you do not. As a physics student I feel like I have to add that your definition very much rhymes with some actual well established science such as the pressure generated by gravity is the same as the pressure generated by the light emitted by a star inside of said star and that you can describe stars curving spacetime as them exerting a pressure on said spacetime. --Trialpears (talk) 23:48, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – November 2022

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Question from Suhail Muhammed k (06:54, 2 November 2022)

hi , how create an article ? --Suhail Muhammed k (talk) 06:54, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from 3d.nftart (18:42, 25 October 2022)

Hi @Trialpears

I hope you are good!

A discussion has been created about my article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Karl_Lagasse

I have been working on some points to argue into the discussion the notability of the contemporary artist: Karl Lagasse.

The problem now is that someone has deleted the article and I didn't have the chance to answer the comments on the discussion page.

I would appreciate it if you can provide more information on how to recover the article or if I can still argue my points in order to recover it.

Looking forward to hearing from you, 3d.nftart --3d.nftart (talk) 18:42, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello @3d.nftart! I'm sorry that you couldn't make your arguments heard. I can't do much personally, except give you the contents of the page if you want, but you could always hear with the closing admin Premeditated Chaos on her talk page. If she thinks reopening the discussion is warranted she can do that. --Trialpears (talk) 16:08, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
I don't. I think the previous discussion was thorough and conclusive. ♠PMC(talk) 20:38, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Hi @Premeditated Chaos
I am trying to do my best and I would like to ask you the favor of opening again the discussion since I have been preparing some points to argue into it the notability of the artist: Karl Lagasse
I did not notice when the problem started on Wikipedia, I am not here 24/7 and when I realized the problem I started working on the points to argue, the problem was when I was ready to answer the discussion, it had been already closed and the article eliminated.
I am trying to improve all the feedback that I received in the article and I would like to have the opportunity to present my points.
Can you give me some advice on how to resolve this issue in a constructive matter instead of saying nothing can be done?
If it helps I can share with you additional information and discussion points so you can review them.
Looking forward from you answer, @3d.nftart 3d.nftart (talk) 18:36, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
I will not be reopening the discussion. It was extremely thorough and remained open for three weeks, which is more than enough time for a community consensus to form. In particular, the detailed source analysis (at the AfD, click the little "show" button that's under the bold text "Source assessment table" to see it) showed that none of the extant coverage was suitable for supporting a claim to notability, for various reasons.
You're free to work on a draft of the page in draftspace at Draft:Karl Lagasse if you think you have other sources that support a claim to notability. ♠PMC(talk) 21:17, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Amendialoss (07:10, 10 November 2022)

hi! --Amendialoss (talk) 07:10, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi! Welcome to Wikipedia! If you have any questions I'm happy to help! --Trialpears (talk) 14:42, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Kierkegaardreader (20:41, 10 November 2022)

Hello. I am Dr Michael Carper. I have a very serious and important question for you. --Kierkegaardreader (talk) 20:41, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

@Kierkegaardreader Go right ahead! If this is related to your Stephen C. Meyer edits edits I doubt I could help you even if I wanted to. There's been several thousands of words of discussion about it at Talk:Stephen C. Meyer and I doubt you will get consensus to change it. --Trialpears (talk) 23:16, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Syedafatimabatool (22:17, 18 November 2022)

How to make message blue and click able --Syedafatimabatool (talk) 22:18, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Rahul dharmada kannur (07:57, 20 November 2022)

My name is Rahul IAM from kannur Kerala IAM a YouTuber also actor also model my likes to do anything in youtube --Rahul dharmada kannur (talk) 07:57, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

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