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Nava Semel R.I.P.

On the main page "Recent Deaths," you deleted content on the late Nava Semel relevant to the subject and backed by a citation, and gave no reason in your edit summary. I'm reverting your edit. As you're a regular contributor to Recent Deaths, by what policy did you delete this information? -- Deborahjay (talk) 18:12, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

January 2018

Hello, I'm Oshwah. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Anna Campori, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:59, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to Arthur Davidson (politician). This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:00, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Deaths in 2018

Hello, when you add people to the Deaths in 2018 page, please note that they should be in alphabetical order under each day. Thank you. --Marbe166 (talk) 20:29, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Reminder for Deaths in 2019. --Marbe166 (talk) 20:32, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Carmel McSharry

As I said on the talk page you shouldn’t just put it back upon responding to my concern. I reiterate that you should undo your revert as I’d like a second opinion from a third party. Rusted AutoParts 15:46, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

May 2018

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Dead footballers/football players

Generally speaking,a "football player" plays gridiron football and a "footballer" plays association football, though someone who plays and manages association football is called a "football player and manager". Australians may play either Australian rules football or association football and a link to the former sport is used if that's what they played. For Canadians and even USAmericans I favor the first-sentence distinction as sufficient but others call association football "soccer" just for them even though it's not used for other countries' people playing the same sport. LE (talk) 16:16, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Brian Christopher

The source provided has several confirmations from reliable people in that world. The sources being contested at his article aren’t of that caliber. Please revert yourself. Rusted AutoParts 18:43, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Looking more into it, it was locked off because people weren’t including sources at all. I have at Deaths, so please restore him. Rusted AutoParts 18:46, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Direct statements from family or authorities aren’t a requirement. And I have stated already the main issue over at his article was his death was being added without a source. The source I provided at deaths have the necessary confirmations to include him there, so please restore him. Rusted AutoParts 18:50, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Squared away within minutes. Rusted AutoParts 00:59, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Michael Scott Rohan

We're not meant to spread rumor from obscure fans on the off-chance a news organization might see it here and bite. Until a reliable source says a BLP subject is dead, such dubious claims should or must be removed, per policy. I don't want to fight about it if you don't. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:09, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Whitey Bulger

Officials haven't said how he died so saying he was stabbed is pure speculation on your part. Keep to the facts. 2601:1C0:6D02:27C0:C85D:B194:559B:96C4 (talk) 00:52, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Rule of 3

Hey, thanks for some creative thinking and applying the "rule of 3" to Kumar's political positions. It helped to bring the entry down to a reasonable size consistent with others on the list. Regards, WWGB (talk) 06:01, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

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Hello,

I noticed that you sometimes edit from the mobile site, and I was hoping that you could help me. The mw:Editing team has posted some ideas about improving the editing experience on the mobile site at mw:Visual-based mobile editing/Ideas/October 2018. Could you look through that and tell them which ideas you like best (or least)? It's really helpful for them to hear from experienced editors who are familiar with the problems. Thanks, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:42, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Sorry!

Accidental roll back. Clicked the wrong link. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:06, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

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A. Kumarathurai

Hi Folengo, just wondering why you reverted the edit to A. Kumarathurai. Did you want to link to a disambiguation page? Leschnei (talk) 19:59, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

It was actually to revert unsorced news abouth death. Sorry if I reverted your edit too. --Folengo (talk) 17:06, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Your help desk question

You did not get a response to this question. I noticed you called it a "last stand". Any other ideas, because I don't have any. Well, I have one. I'll see if it works.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:05, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

When I followed your link, it took me to contributions, not the bot's page. I see that the bot is working again, and even though we're not supposed to edit archives, I felt it needed to be stated the problem was fixed for anyone who might see it. Did you try this, in case it happens again?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:12, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

No problem, it has been fixed shortly after. Thanks for the suggestion. --Folengo (talk) 08:27, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Morgan Woodward

Hi. Sorry to revert your basic good work at Deaths in 2019, but I have been mainly led by the person's Wikipedia article (and its edit history rejecting an obit), plus general internet search results, in deciding to do so. His own personal website [ http://www.morganwoodward.com/ ] does not yet acknowledge his passing either. Thanks. Ref ^(chew)(do) 15:36, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Cricketer versus cricket player

For your information, cricket is NOT an American game, and its participants are called cricketers (outside North America), e.g. refer to the August 21 entry for Lawrence Reade, and not cricket players. For that reason, your reversion of my earlier edit was unwarranted and not helpful (August 22 entry for Peter Chingoka). Your football analogies are also not relevant here. Editrite! (talk) 22:15, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Cricketer and administrator. Administrator of what? --Folengo (talk) 18:52, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Although (cricket) administrator is obviously implied, if his playing background was cricket, the word cricket could be added for the pedants. That's how his article starts. Someone with only cricket experience would hardly be a football administrator, for example! 203.196.41.161 (talk) 22:07, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Precious

recent deaths

Thank you for quality checking of reports of deaths, for updating lists accordingly, such as List of oldest living state leaders, List of living centenarians and family trees, for requesting good sources and fighting an overload of accolades, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

You are recipient no. 2284 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:22, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I do little work in comparison to many others, but try to do it at best. --Folengo (talk) 14:58, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

don't compare ;) - per rule #7 of ten, if you go to my talk, look for the smile, and click on the quote --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:54, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

John Giorno, etc.

I try my best and endeavor to learn from my errors. Kindly explain why John Giorno's Dial-A-Poem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dial-A-Poem is not considered one of his notable achievements? Did I format it incorrectly? Also, metastatic breast cancer is significantly different than just breast cancer because it has spread to other parts of the body. In that regard, it is no longer merely "breast cancer". https://www.cancersupportcommunity.org/blog/2014/10/recap-4-things-you-should-know-about-metastic I welcome corrections to my entries, and thank you for your strict attention to detail. Thank you!Yestertempest (talk) 18:45, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

I removed the whole Giorno entry because he was already listed under the right date. Dial-A-Poem needs to be cited. As for cancer, we never specify the stage. --Folengo (talk) 16:59, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

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Zafar Chaudhry

I don't see a Wikipedia article for "airline executive", either. Editrite! (talk) 08:33, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

It is a general description. Specif posts held are reported if encyclopedic. --Folengo (talk) 10:08, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

You're wrong again. The organization has a full article, MD as in Managing Director gets a mention, as does Managing Director in full which goes under Director (business). Editrite! (talk) 21:16, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Yes, as you like it. --Folengo (talk) 14:56, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Sergei Slonimsky

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User needs to be advised. Some incorrect things have been readded three times at least. That's disruptive editing. --Folengo (talk) 20:06, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

You changed my edit of Sergei Slonimsky from "film scorer" back to "soundtrack composer". Your comment was "Film scorer? What is it, a cinematographic footballer?" That's truly funny. No, what a film scorer does is explained in detail in Wikipedia's article on film scoring (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_score). You see, "score" has different meanings. One is points in a sporting event (like football) and another is the music of a film (aka the film's score). I don't believe anyone composes a soundtrack. I think the soundtrack is what results when an individual composes a score. Genarians (talk) 21:12, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Edits were made to Katherine W. Phillips

Thanks for your contribution, maybe a search on Twitter.com for her name will alleviate your concerns about notability. CaptJayRuffins (talk) 16:25, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

If you have a source that verifies a contested claim, SIMPLY USE IT

Shouting out callbacks to previous references to it in edit summaries is ridiculously unclear and indirect. If you'd have fixed the citation the first time, we wouldn't be here. I can't translate on this thing, so I'd rather trust you to do it the easy and normal way. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:07, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

For God's sake, I won't use the Iranian source there! It has a ridicolously long url, and is not in English. I reported it in the edit summary and that usually suffices. Since lot of people are not happy with this I'll link it. --Folengo (talk) 10:31, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. Plenty of sources aren't in English there. As long as they back a claim, they're more welcome than not. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:48, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Anyway Google Translate is wrong. How does anyone "test positive for coronary disease?". Definitely COVI, many underlying issues, but that's it. --Folengo (talk) 10:59, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

See Coronary artery disease#Diagnosis. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:03, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

I believe it to be a translation error, but I'm happy with your decision.--Folengo (talk) 11:04, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Just type in "COVID-19" or "coronavirus" and compare the squiggles to code for "coronary artery disease" to rest assured, I guess. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:12, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Deaths in 2020

Tell me - how come American doctors have notability but a leading neonatologist in the UK doesn't ... shame on you Rhyddfrydol2 (talk) 20:04, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

(watching:) I tried to explain on your talk page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:53, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

nn

I saw you deleted a person from the list, with description nn. Person meets GNG and article has been created. SportsOlympic (talk) 19:12, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Oh, yes, every oldest man in the Netherlands should have his own article here. Come on... --Folengo (talk) 09:32, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Deaths in 2020/Mohammed Nasim

Could you provide a third opinion here? The discussion seems to be stuck... --Pesqara (talk) 14:45, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

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One year!

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Thanks. --Folengo (talk) 17:06, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

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I also wanted to congratulate you on this January 15 for the 20 anniversary that this encyclopedia fulfills Secretsgenius (talk) 19:07, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks.--Folengo (talk) 11:48, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Help appreciated

Hi Folengo, I've noticed that this is one of your areas so thought I would reach out. Could you please take a look at the talk page for Al Besselink, as well as look at the edit I'm trying to achieve here then perhaps leave your own comments on the talk page. I have a user fighting me on this. I believe he/she is being needlessly pedantic but I'd value a second opinion from you either way. Thanks! --Jkaharper (talk) 22:10, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Daily Star reference at Deaths in 2021

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Recent deaths

Thank you for trimming my entry to the standard for as you did here. However edit summaries like "Hear me, man: we do not report every award on this page. We usually limit us to Nobel Prizes and a few others. So please stop it" are Wikipedia:BITEY and do not show good faith. I do not recall ever having added things other than "Nobel Prizes and a few others" before and was unaware of what others were considered appropriate to add. If you have a genuine desire to inform, please in future edit with a civil edit summary, and raise the matter on the user's talk page. Spokoyni (talk) 17:21, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I was not even referring to you. I was referring to SportsOlympic. Really he adds too many insignificant things there, it is not acceptable. I will raise the matter on the talk page only if needed, but it has been discussed before (with a broad consensus for not including anything you could think of) and I see it does not work. Sorry again for that.--Folengo (talk) 09:26, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Speaking of where, I just mentioned you, forgot to ping. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:31, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Fran Bennett/Deaths in 2021

Newsblogs and magazine blogs are considered as reliable sources according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability#Newspaper_and_magazine_blogs. I consider CalArts blog being a such and being reliable.DrKilleMoff (talk) 19:06, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

I have also made an inquiry at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#California_Institute_of_The_Arts and so far people agree with me that it's a reliable source. You are welcome to respond either here or there.DrKilleMoff (talk) 08:05, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

I don't doubt better source will come. There's no hurry. So yes, as of now I am still against inclusion. --Folengo (talk) 09:13, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

We can use the template (better source needed) for so long but to rule out the source that comes from a respectable university because it's a blog when newsblogs and magazine blogs are considered reliable is wrong imo. DrKilleMoff (talk) 10:59, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Living as per article

OK you did this as per cited source. You're not going to bother to update the article about him? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 09:26, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

I think nothing obliges me to do it. Cheers.--Folengo (talk) 14:59, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Only ethical behavior - never mind. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 22:05, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Saving deleted lists

I was able to save a Google cache of the list of oldest members of the US House of Representatives but Google doesn't seem to have a cache of the longest-lived Senators list. Do you know if there's an up-to-date mirror anywhere? 96.250.80.27 (talk) 04:59, 30 September 2021 (UTC) I'll search for it. --Folengo (talk) 09:00, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

September 2021

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To be clearer: Your statement "There's the work of thousands behind these lists and they are being unrespectfully deleted for dubious thick-headed interpretation of "policies". Obviously this worsens the quality and usefulness of Wikipedia, but who cares until there are "policies". Bureaucrats destroy everything they find" is an unacceptable personal attack on the nominator, Pburka, and on others who do not share your view about the merits of including the content at issue in Wikipedia. Such conduct is prohibited, see WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL, and I will block you from editing if I see it repeated. In addition, I have not taken your opinion into account in closing the discussion. Sandstein 11:31, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Don't worry, it won't happen again.--Folengo (talk) 06:25, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

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Calm down, I just read the message. Edit summaries are not compulsory to my knowledge, I'll use them more often anyway.--Folengo (talk) 11:24, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

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The "death announced" issue at Deaths in 2023

What I have noticed for a very long time is that some editors spot something salient to the death date on Facebook, Twitter or various other low-grade sources, and introduce their findings into the page by removing the "death announced" tag. They also deem it appropriate to include as little as possible by way of explanation in the edit summary, if anything at all. There seems to be an element of OCD at play, in that the editors invariably appear to need a closure of that particular issue as soon as is possible. Personally I prefer to wait - a properly-sourced announcement is as good as a cast-iron dated one, in my mind. I do understand your frustration, but would think that any accusation of vandalism would not hold up if taken to extreme, as the misguided edits are still edits in good faith. Ref ^(chew)(do) 18:35, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

So I immediately go back to the Deaths in 2023 page and find that the recently-highlighted editor has now done the correct thing. Ref ^(chew)(do) 18:38, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Your comment on RD 2023

"That's a reliable Italian source. Stop vandalizing." This is not source that I am familiar with. If there was Repubblica link, it would be other case. And while repubblica googles, the problem is that there are as of now no reliable english sources at all, or in other languages. And considering headlines with him listed as Star wars actor, which technically he isn't, and he is more famous for other roles, say Divergent or G.I.Joe, I had doubts about other sources. You shouldn't say I am vandalising. Kirill C1 (talk) 16:52, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

I was exaggerating to make you understand you were wrong. Sorry.--Folengo (talk) 12:08, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Silvio Berlusconi/Deaths in 2023

Hi. Why did you revert my edit for Silvio Berlusconi in Deaths in 2023? No, just to say "no" is not an explanation As it stands now, you get the impression that he was prime minister for the entire time between 1994-2013. I think it's better to list which years he was prime minister and then list the years he was MP and MEP. DrKilleMoff (talk) 20:14, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

There's a limit of three time ranges for each entry, which was imposed by consensus after the death of Virbhadra Singh.--Folengo (talk) 07:52, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Four years!

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Incorrect edit

This edit is wrong. The source doesn't say anywhere Serge Laprade had prostate cancer let alone that he died from it. The source says his husband Daniel Arsenault had prostate cancer and ironically healed from it the same day that Laprade died from a returning cancer whose type wasn't specified.76.64.176.181 (talk) 03:05, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

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