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Template:Cork under-21 football team managers[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:57, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and redundant to Template:Cork under-20 football team managers which features all the same links. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:22, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Cork Hurling Team 1996[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:57, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and these three teams don't need a navbox because these three teams did not win the tournament. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:07, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - Per nom. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 21:50, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete, please no more non-winning squad navboxes. Frietjes (talk) 18:59, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Chembox MolarMass[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. Wrong venue. Moved to Redirects for discussion. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:58, 13 December 2021 (UTC) (Non-admin closure)[reply]

Unused redirect. As a subtemplate, it would only be called from the main template i.e., no public calls. Therefor, from main template only & no reason to call a redirect when its target is available. No use for distracting variant names. From maintaining the main {{Chembox}}, I'd say non-controversial. DePiep (talk) 22:14, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

sigh, I was advised [1] ... OK, withdrawn, pls kill this one here. -DePiep (talk) 22:43, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Political party extended meta[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:42, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused doc template. Gonnym (talk) 19:59, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:59, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Emphatic Keep This template is only 'unused' due to some 'good faith' edits that have seriously damaged the wikiproject data that it belongs to. Some serious repairs/reconstructions/reverts are now needed to fix the project's data ... don't make the job any harder. FanRed XN | talk | Fanx (talk) 01:59, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete, unused. if this sort of thing is needed, we can always recreate something better as party of a talk page banner or something. Frietjes (talk) 18:58, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Party results shading[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 00:15, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused non-template, but its sub-templates ({{Party results shading/Republican/50–60}} and {{Party results shading/Republican/60–70}}) are also unused. Gonnym (talk) 19:34, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Intent of this template I created this template, and the others mentioned, to standardize exactly what colors would be used to shade which specific results (i.e., what color would be used for a Republican win in a district with 60–70 percent of the vote), for use in election articles such as 1929 New York City mayoral election or (not standardized) 1927 Chicago mayoral election, similar to how we standardize exact hex values for Democrats and Republicans. I never got around to it, but I still think it's a good idea. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 19:41, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, thanks! Although shading is the background color, not the text color. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 20:38, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • To be quite frank, I had completely forgotten about the project until this discussion, but I have started expansion and use that I hope to continue in the coming week. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 02:18, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete as unused and functionally equivalent to #{{HexShade|{{Party color|PARTY}}|0.X}} (e.g., #{{HexShade|{{party color|Democratic Party (United States)}}|0.6}} = #3333FF for 40%. Frietjes (talk) 18:56, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as unused. Not sure why we'd want to be doing this anyway. per WP:COLOR "Ensure that color is not the only method used to communicate important information. Especially, do not use colored text or background unless its status is also indicated using another method" etc Nigej (talk) 14:52, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Nigej: This is in the context of maps, which are already visual media; the shading takes care of the colorblindness aspect, so I don't think those comments are relevant. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 18:32, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Substitute and delete the subpages. These could probably be replaced by some version of {{HexShade}} or having a shading feature added to Module:Political party or add entries to the existing {{Party shading}} system. But, in any case, I don't think we need an entirely new system, especially when the map maker may not use these hex values, so they are most likely going to vary from map to map. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 15:50, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • In fairness, this is supposed to create a standard for mapmakers to follow, so the "map maker may not use these hex values" does not apply, though I agree with the rest of your argument. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 14:37, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Ukraine politics/party colors/Batkivshchyna[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:56, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above are all unused Ukraine political party color templates which have their party colors in Module:Political party. Gonnym (talk) 18:32, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Chicken Kiev[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:43, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template already uses the subst format and has only been used from my search only on two user talk pages both of which are now archive talk pages. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:53, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. It's a subst-only template. It has been used. I have marked it as subst-only, so it will not appear in future reports. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:06, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. This template appears to be one of the many in the WikiLove series, and while it has not been used very often, I don't see any harm in keeping it. --Zander251 (talk) 05:43, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Chicago and Interurban Traction[edit]

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The result of the discussion was userfy. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:45, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and not sure what particular article could use this railway template as it's unspecified from the template page. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:49, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: This template is for a future article: Chicago and Interurban Traction Company. I neglected to add the title of the article to the template when I created it. Lost on  Belmont  3200N1000W  (talk) 17:59, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Are you planning on creating that article? The template is over 6 years old and has yet to be used. Gonnym (talk) 18:36, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If the creator wants the template to not be deleted, then it should be userfied until the article is ready. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:49, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per author's wishes. Useddenim (talk) 20:24, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment None of the keeps are actually addressing the actual issue of the template not having a place for it to be used. Userfication is the way to go since the creator intends on creating the article for it. A six year old template shouldn't be sitting around for nothing. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:19, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • move to userspace. Frietjes (talk) 18:48, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Userfy until it is ready for transclusion in article space. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:13, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Blocks of Madhepura district[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:58, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and redundant to Template:Kosi Division topics. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:44, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:China-India border dispute[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:16, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused sidebar that's redundant to the China-India relations navbox which already contains the relevant articles about the border conflict. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:38, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:64Teamx2RoundAnd32TeamX2RoundBracket[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:15, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused bracket template. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:30, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:ARFU rugby union tournament[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:15, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and redundant to Asia Rugby Championship which features the same blue and red links. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:28, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Party shading/Democratic Unity Roundtable[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 11:56, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused Venezuela political party shading templates. Gonnym (talk) 11:21, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Europarty ACRE[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 11:54, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above set are all unused except in {{Europarties in European Council and EU Council}} which is only used in 3 talk pages. Gonnym (talk) 10:50, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Party name with colour[edit]

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Party name with color. ✗plicit 11:56, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Party name with colour with Template:Party name with color.
Almost identical templates with a u difference in the name. The difference are:

  • One needs a pipe "|" before it, the other doesn't.
  • One uses |row=, the other |rowspan= (the rowspan usage is cleaner as it needs 2 less ifs).
  • Unique to {{Party name with color}}:
    • |full= to use the name passed and not a shorter name.
  • Unique to {{Party name with colour}}:
    • |shortname= to manually override the "shortname" in the module.
    • |colour= |color= to manually override the "color" in the module.

These templates both serve the exact same functionality (and I wouldn't be surprised if most usages don't use any of the unique parameters either). Gonnym (talk) 09:29, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Legacy Broadcasting[edit]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 December 20. Izno (talk) 08:46, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Besa Kavajë sections[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 08:46, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Both articles that this sidebar linked to have been deleted, so there is no possible use for this template anymore. – Jonesey95 (talk) 07:11, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Dark Universe[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 08:45, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NENAN and WP:TOOSOON. The Dark Universe has been written about, but I don't think there are enough entries to warrant a navbox yet. Molandfreak (talk, contribs, email) 07:07, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I guess you're right. The Mummy is the only film "officially" in the Dark Universe. Renfield (film) is currently a redirect. Drafts that would be included are Draft:Renfield (film) and Draft:Wolfman (film) but they have not announced when production will begin. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 12:14, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Indian National Congress/meta/symbol[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 08:46, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Empty for many months. This "party name/meta/xxx" system of templates has been discontinued in favor of Module:Political party. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:46, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Gonnym (talk) 09:59, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Australian Labor Party (Northern Territory Branch)/meta/shading[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. The nomination was withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 20:27, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. No longer needed, if it ever worked. This party is supported by Module:Political party/A. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:45, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Creator of the template here. This template supported Template:NT parlbox, essentially a clone of Template:NZ parlbox. It had a lot of transclusions. As part of the implementation of the Module, the template was edited to source the colours, not shading by Primefac. This was reversed on the NZ parlbox, but not the NT one. The shadings are not included in the module. This template should only be deleted if the NT parlbox is deleted or redesigned. Whether it should be so I am not sure, but the two templates are tied to each other. (This also applies to Template:Country Liberal Party/meta/shading, Template:Palmer United Party/meta/shading, Template:Territory Alliance/meta/shading and Template:Northern Territory Nationals/meta/shading) YttriumShrew (talk) 08:39, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've restored the /shading for now. That said, the way these colors are used fail MOS:CONTRAST and the templates should be better designed so the text is not used over the color and then not need the /shading at all. Gonnym (talk) 10:02, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Singapore People's Alliance/meta/shading[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 08:44, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. No longer needed, if it ever worked. This party is supported by Module:Political party/S. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:44, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Gonnym (talk) 10:06, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Comuni list[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 08:45, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Links only to Alphabetical list of municipalities of Italy, which does not need a template for its lead. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:42, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Gonnym (talk) 10:09, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Captive nation[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 08:44, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Untranscluded navbox with only two links, one of which is to the main article for the template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:38, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. There is no reason to creaet a navbox for 2 links. Gonnym (talk) 10:08, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Serietabell[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:53, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions, no documentation, no categories, no incoming links. Appear to have been copied from a Scandanavian-language Wikipedia in late 2019 and then either never used, or tested and then abandoned. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:28, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Gonnym (talk) 10:07, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Selenosteidae[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:53, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions, no incoming links. Redundant to {{Arthrodira|P.}}, as used at, for example, Braunosteus. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:25, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Politics of Canada/proposed split[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:53, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and very old split proposal version. Gonnym (talk) 02:17, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Solar Inex series 2012 May 20 and related[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:48, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Table content has been inserted into relevant articles directly, for example Solar eclipse of July 20, 1925. Text content exists at {{Inex eclipse set info}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:15, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Parties and leaders after the Malaysian general election, 2018[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:49, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused as 2018 Malaysian general election uses a different table. Gonnym (talk) 02:15, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Party political make-up of Poole Borough Council[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:49, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and 2011 Poole Borough Council election uses different tables and data. Gonnym (talk) 02:14, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Party cell/Democratic[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:49, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused sub-templates of Template:Party cell. Gonnym (talk) 02:11, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:ShipMain[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:50, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions, no documentation, no categories, no incoming links. Only one substantive edit, which was creation in early 2019. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:06, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:02, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete misleading name for an animanga videogame template that links to an external wiki -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 13:40, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Services Awards[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:50, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions, no incoming links. No edits since creation in 2011. Massively overcomplicated way to show a service award template, all of which exist as simple userboxes and variations on them. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:05, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Irish general election cc[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:51, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused election table template. Gonnym (talk) 02:03, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Greek politics/leadership race[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:51, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused election template. Gonnym (talk) 02:00, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Election box metadata[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:51, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused election related template. Gonnym (talk) 01:55, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Communist Party of Bangladesh (Marxist–Leninist) (Barua)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:52, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused party color template. Gonnym (talk) 01:49, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Most–Híd/meta/linkedname[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:52, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused party template, which is much more longer than the actual link. Gonnym (talk) 01:34, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Distinguish for users[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:52, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions, no incoming links, no documentation, no categories. One edit in 2017 (creation). Appears to attempt to call a French-language template to create a message similar to that created by {{Distinguish}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:57, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:District[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:52, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions, no documentation, no incoming links to this version of the template. All it does is make a wikilink. A template at this name was deleted in 2010; this version does not appear to be the same as that template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:55, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Communist Refoundation Party factions[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 08:48, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Communist Refoundation Party has almost the same exact layout for this section. Since the other template has all the links, just replace the template usages while making sure a page doesn't end up with it twice. Gonnym (talk) 22:45, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:00, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The information on factions should be taken out from Template:Communist Refoundation Party and this template should stay, consistently with the similar templates for other political parties in Italy. At least, please keep the template as a redirect in order not to lose its history. --Checco (talk) 09:14, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:11, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • As I argued, the two templates should stay. At least keep this template as a redirect in order to keep history! --Checco (talk) 17:42, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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