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FC Barcelona

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I've listed this article for peer review because it's changed considerably since last assessment, and I'll like a critique of it's current status - in particular what needs to be done to consider this a featured article.

Thanks, Sandman888 (talk) 11:12, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I'll try to do a full review later, but the most obvious issue is that the history section is almost completely unreferenced.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

it's sourced, but mainly with 'one' source Sandman888 (talk) 14:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

• I have added a tag to highlight that one section of the history (the Nunez presidency) is unreferenced. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 21:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I've sourced it mainly with the FCB webpage history pages Sandman888 (talk) 14:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

The book references at the foot need ISBN numbers. I will add the one for Jimmy Burns because I have a copy lying around somewhere. Actually, this gives me an excuse to re-read it and compare it to this article. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 21:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

At first glance, the history section suffers from a bit of recentism, there is too much minutiae from the last two seasons - in particular, the details of a preseason tour should not be in a general summary history of a football club. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 21:47, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I've cleared it out, but it's hard to say whether the sextuple section is a sort of recentism or if it's because the recently made history. Sandman888 (talk) 14:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Finetooth comment: Just glancing at the article, I agree with ChrisTheDude and Jmorrison that at least some and perhaps many of the significant claims in the article are not verifiable because they lack in-line citations to reliable sources. A good rule of thumb is to provide a source for every set of statistics, every direct quote, every claim that has been challenged or is apt to be challenged, and every paragraph.

In cases where a whole paragraph has one citation at the end, the cited source should cover the whole paragraph, not just the last sentence. However, the claim that "History says that Gamper was inspired to choose the club colours, blaugrana, by FC Basel's crest", which appears in the first sentence of the second paragraph of the Birth of Barcelona section, is not supported by the source cited at the end of the paragraph. It's quite difficult and time-consuming to check unsourced claims entered by other editors who may have disappeared since making their entries. Even so, it's necessary to make sure everything meets WP:V for an article to be promoted. Claims that assert things that are common knowledge don't need a source, but the claim that Gamper was inspired by the FC Basel crest is not common knowledge and must have come from a source (not "History" and not the only cited source for the paragraph). I found this one problem by randomly checking; if I checked further, the odds are high that I would find more. Finetooth (talk) 19:26, 13 March 2010 (UTC)