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April 19[edit]

Middleton family[edit]

Middleton family

Reference number 66 is in red - please repair. I cannot do this, sorry! Thank you 115.70.23.77 (talk) 02:12, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. The issue was that access-date was written as 20244 instead of 2024. Sungodtemple (talkcontribs) 02:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I swear this is like the 80th time this IP has made the same error. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Very likely an underestimation. It has long been evident that this user (who also has an account but has seemingly been embarrassed into not using it by previous admonitions) is inherently unable to perceive such typos, whether from sight-related or device-related issues, and/or what one might call "code-blindness". Since most of her many contributions have been accepted as constructive, it's easier in the long run just to correct her occasional mistakes rather than to try to teach her not to make them. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 151.227.134.31 (talk) 17:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So they are incapable of learning how to do it? It seems odd that they are capable of writing a reference but not fixing errors with one that they wrote. If that's neverthless the case, it might be better for them and us if they worked with a particular editor or editors as a mentor. 331dot (talk) 19:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That seems to me to be overkill. As a former professional proofreader and also the son of a sometime tutor of people with dyslexia, I well understand that many folk just find it very difficult to spot their own typos, particularly in code rather than clear text.
Most of us on the Desks have long accepted that it's easier to correct this user's occasional typos when she politely asks us to, than stress about trying to teach her not to make them. Why do you have such a bee in your bonnet about the issue? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 151.227.134.31 (talk) 05:18, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How do I fix this error[edit]

There is an error that says "Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page)." in A Killer's Confession - Wikipedia. How do I fix this? Perfecnot (talk) 02:42, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Perfecnot: it looks like another editor has fixed this. It appears some text was deleted that removed the closing ref tag. RudolfRed (talk) 03:02, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About Infobox Company[edit]

I was reading the page Template:Infobox company and trying to clear my confusion about Legal and Trade name of company. Then found this statement under trade_name: "Trade name, doing business as, d/b/a or fictitious business name under which a company presents itself to the public. This parameter is used only when the company has a legally registered trade name that is different from the company's full, legal name.

Can anyone clear this above 👆statement what exactly it means?

I checked Wikipedia page of "Google" there is no mention of Trade name of Google LLC. Octo2k (talk) 06:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes a company's legal name, which it is registered with and puts on official documents and the like, is distinct from it's common name which it advertises with and which the public would generally refer to it with. For example, the National Railroad Passenger Corporation is a legal name for a company that is commonly known as Amtrak. And Little Caesar Enterprises Inc is more commonly known as Little Caesars. In these cases the common name is called it's "trade name" or "Doing Business As" name. In Google's case, Google LLC is their legal name but it's not distinct from Google which is the name that they trade as. -- D'n'B-t -- 06:30, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply. Want to clear one more thing, is Cellco Partnership is legal name of Verizon Wireless, it's written as example of Template: Infobox Company, but i checked the Wikipedia page of Verizon Wireless there is no mention of Cellco Partnership in Verizon Wireless Wikipedia page's Infobox company? Octo2k (talk) 06:52, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A good point. You could change the |name = field in that case, to reflect the legal name. Although if I were going to do that I would include a reference that gives both names, such as this, to avoid any confusion. -- D'n'B-t -- 16:38, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing self published or pre-published articles[edit]

When correcting citations which fall under the "CS1 errors: missing periodical" alert, what should the journal name be written as for self-published or pre-published essays which are sourced only on open access repositories? For instance, an article from bioRxiv.

Specific example: The fourth reference to the Aedes koreicus article Tanaya001 (talk) 10:11, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Don't use the Cite journal template if there's no journal. See Template:Cite document/doc. 118.18.141.213 (talk) 11:55, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Better to use {{cite biorxiv}} to cite articles/papers at the bioRxiv preprint server.
Trappist the monk (talk) 12:14, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, didn't know this existed Tanaya001 (talk) 20:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

LGBT rights map is incorrect[edit]

Hello.

I want some help in editing the map being used on LGBT rights by country or territory (Template:World laws pertaining to homosexual relationships and expression).


The information concering South Asia appears to be incorrect:

  • Pakistan should be changed to "Prison, with arrests or detention"
  • Bangladesh and Sri Lanka shoud be changed to "Prison, not enforced" (I have no idea why Bangladesh is coloured as having same-sex relationship legal protections).

I have a feeling that Pakistan might be controversial, but the following do state that there are arrests of LGBTQ in the country, especially the UK foreign office summary:


Pakistan

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/10/08/pakistani-courts-confirm-bail-for-yale-alum-after-lgbtq-inspired-photoshoot/

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/world/pakistan-police-arrest-couple-facilitators-over-gay-marriage-94974https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/62554b85e90e0729fef7bb5f/Pakistan_Sexual_orientation_and_gender_identity_or_expression.pdf


Shironese (talk) 14:02, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shironese The best place to raise these issues is on the associated article talk page, Talk:LGBT rights by country or territory. 331dot (talk) 14:14, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How to go about uploading files based off of copyrighted content?[edit]

Several NFL teams have been updating their uniforms recently, which renders the images of their current uniforms outdated. For example, the page for the New York Jets displays this image, which is no longer accurate. I've been working on an updated version, both with as little anti-aliasing as possible to make it easier to edit, as well as to reflect the recent changes; this is similar to the previously referenced images, but updated and accurate to the real, current uniforms. I'm not quite sure how to approach uploading it, though; I have to wait four more days and contribute 10 edits before I can upload directly to the English Wikipedia, which is heavily advised when dealing with copyrighted content (in this case, imagery based off of the trademark of a professional sports team worth billions). I also have updated uniforms for the Detroit Lions, Cleveland Browns, am currently working on the Houston Texans, and I plan to adapt all the uniforms to this template.

Any advice? Thanks in advance ExpergeTech (talk) 14:56, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ExpergeTech. You might want to discuss this at Wikipedia:WikiProject National Football League before proceeding further because most likely the members of that WikiProject are aware of the recent changes made to team uniforms and may have already begun discussing how to deal with it with respect to the Wikipedia articles about the teams. They will also probably know how to best upload new images of the uniforms. -- Marchjuly (talk) 15:11, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, ExpergeTech. I do not see a copyright issue here. The current image File:NY jets uniforms19.png is hosted on Wikimedia Commons (not English Wikipedia) and is freely licensed, and not copyright restricted. It was created by Fma12 who is highly active on both projects. You can either ask that editor for assistance or do the same thing that they did. It is against policy to upload copyright protected images when freely licensed alternatives are available. Cullen328 (talk) 00:50, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, ExpergeTech, there are articles about the New York Jets (and presumably other NFL teams) in 14 language versions of Wikipedia. Uploading the updated uniform image to Commons not to English Wikipedia allows the image to be used in any language, not just English. Cullen328 (talk) 01:05, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @ExpergeTech:, as @Cullen328: said, there are no copyright issues with the NFL or NCAA uniforms I did because their logos are not the main subject of the uniforms. Moreover, a few of them were nominated for deletion but kept. You can upload as many uniforms as you want, but the only thing I strongly recommend you is NOT to overwrite your versions over the previous files, but uploading as new files instead. If you want more assist, don't hesistate to leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks, Fma12 (talk) 09:47, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Creating an English Wikipedia Page for Mezzo-Soprano Anousha Nazari[edit]

I have created an English Wikipedia page for Anousha Nazari, a mezzo-soprano singer, using references from reputable media sources and content from the French and Persian versions of Wikipedia.

Here is the link: User:Birobih/sandbox.

How can I submit and publish it? Birobih (talk) 23:21, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Birobih. Please read Template:AfC submission/submit and add it to the top of your draft. Then submit it. Cullen328 (talk) 00:22, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Birobih: I would remove, the non-rs facebook references and the blog references e.g. paperblog which are likely WP:SPS sources. On the references, the website property is the name of the name of the website, not the url. I would remove the dots between the references and be aware of WP:CITEKILL. These is a style guide on Wikipedia WP:MOS, which describes how textual elements should be laid out. This advice will help you get a successful review. Hope it helps. scope_creepTalk 03:05, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]