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September 8[edit]

Artiste[edit]

Mon pere est dècédè Yvan landry premier céramiste au qc Comment faire pour publier des articles sur lui svp— Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.19.112.103 (talk) 8 September 2021 03:16 (UTC)

  • (My father is deceased Yvan Landry first ceramicist in qc How to publish articles about him please)
 – 'Google translate added by Eagleash (talk) 04:47, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Bonjour, and welcome to the Help Desk for the English Wikipedia. I'm sorry for the loss of your father. Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do in Wikipedia, even for native English speakers. It's even harder when you have a conflict of interest, when it's tempting to write what you know instead of writing what has been published in independent reliable sources. If you haven't done so already, I suggest you review Help:Introduction and spend some time editing existing articles. Then review Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability", at WP:ARTIST, to see if your father qualifies. Then review WP:PROUD, and if you still want to proceed, then carefully follow the instructions at Help:Your first article. You may also be interested in editing at the French Wikipedia. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 05:41, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm from Korean Wikipedia, and I would like to try to change default header color of navbox.[edit]

As I said, I would like to change header color from violet to white, in Korean Wikipedia. Actually I already know and read wp:COLORWAR, so I choose white; it should be free from color blindness problem, also I will check the consensus in there before (kowiki only). Then, how could I edit default color of navbox in Korean wikipedia? Reiro (talk) 06:09, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This help desk is for the English Wikipedia. The Korean equivalent is at ko:위키백과:질문방. --David Biddulph (talk) 07:11, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Reiro: It's navbox-title, navbox-group, navbox-subgroup in ko:MediaWiki:Common.css. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:09, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@PrimeHunter: Thank you for your pleasure:).Reiro (talk) 13:42, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How do I find help/support for the translation of a Wikipedia article?[edit]

I have translated a Wikipedia article from German to English. It still needs adjustments in the infobox for computer games and also some sources would still have to be transferred. Also I don't know how to link the article to the german version. I had translated an article before but it was shorter and I was supported in adapting it to the english wikipedia. How could I find people who might be interested in helping me transfer the translation to a normal wikipedia entry?

The Translation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:OMSI_%E2%80%93_The_bus_simulator

The Original: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMSI_%E2%80%93_Der_Omnibussimulator

thanks in advance--Aberlin2 (talk) 08:34, 8 September 2021 (UTC)--Aberlin2 (talk) 08:34, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! We don't link drafts in this way, but they can be easily linked once the article hits mainspace.(It just needs adding to wikidata:Q2007735. It's worth noting that the standards of the English language wikipedia and others such as de.wikipedia are different, so a direct translation might not be suitable. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:41, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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File:CITIC TEL LOGO

Hi,

I am trying to upload our company logo photo to our company page CITIC Telecom International CPC (Singapore) Pte. Ltd. Unfortunately, I was unable to do so, it prompt "Do not have permission to upload this file. Limited to users "Autoconfirmed users, Administrators, Confirmed users."

May I know how me and my colleagues can go about this? Hear from you soon. Thank you!

Best Regards, Winnie Yeo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Winnie.Yeo (talk • contribs) 09:19, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Winnie.Yeo You asked at the Teahouse; please only use one method of seeking assistance, to avoid duplication of effort. Thanks 331dot (talk) 09:31, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

How can i add a reference to a page about a person?

Owstats, see guidance at these pages: WP:REFBEGIN and WP:TUTORIAL. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:13, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Creating a new Wikipedia page[edit]

Hi

I have created one Wikipedia page for my company which is still awaiting approval from Wikipedia.

I now need to upload a 2nd and a 3rd Wikipedia page, with different headlines, topics and content.

Can you let me know how to do this. I keep going round in circles to my first article?

Thank you, Linda.— Preceding unsigned comment added by SloanLA (talk • contribs)

SloanLA If you are editing about your company, you must make a formal paid editing declaration. Please also review conflict of interest.
Regarding your question, you may create multiple drafts of articles(not mere "pages"), either by creating multiple sandboxes(such as User:SloanLA/sandbox 2) or by using Articles for Creation. I might suggest that you wait to see what happens with your first draft before creating additional drafts, only so you know if you have done so correctly. 331dot (talk) 11:15, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
SloanLA Note that you have not yet actually submitted your draft, you must click the "Submit your draft for review!" button in the box at the top to actually submit it. 331dot (talk) 11:16, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
SloanLA Hi there! If you haven't done so already, I highly recommend following the instructions at Help:Your first article. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 19:42, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Trim[edit]

I dont understand this code. I have a qustion how do this operate.. please. Explain to me.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Trim — Preceding unsigned comment added by SloanLA (talk • contribs)

SloanLA hello and welcome to the help desk! Template:Trim is the link to the template itself, including information on how it's used. In some cases, a template expects parameters for example this one expects text. But for what purpose are you trying to use this template? I am using template Template:Done as a demo, by inserting it in brackets which you can see:
Markup Renders as 
{{done}}

 Done

~ Shushugah (he/him • talk) 15:10, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cousin marriage - United Kingdom paragraphs[edit]

 Courtesy link: Cousin marriage § United Kingdom
Hi all,

I was just reading the United Kingdom section within “Cousin marriage” wiki article.

May I point out that the main content refers to Pakistani ancestry and west Asian ancestry when it comes to quoting statistics and to me comes across very biased in this respect.

This is skewing the statistics as there are no general statistics referenced regarding the whole of the UK with regards to 1st cousin marriages and any genetic conditions.

The reason I was reading the article was because of a debate in a Facebook genealogy group asking about whether 1st cousin marriages were legal. Thankfully this Wiki page has some great graphics showing the legal status across the planet.

As the father of a disabled son, now an Adult, I am constantly conscious of the “perceptions” that disability has in some areas of society, often not helped by inadequate or inappropriate articles.

So the question is how do we get unbiased and informed source articles into this wiki topic? 

Dbridge276 (talk) 14:46, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbridge276 (talk • contribs)

@Dbridge276: It's best if you continue this discussion at Talk:Cousin marriage, where other interested editors are likely to keep an eye on. If you can find reliable sources you can provide them there as well. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:12, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wekipedia musical artiste profile display[edit]

How can I create or open a wekipedia artist page and biography on the internet when people search my musical name— Preceding unsigned comment added by Stickylorhd (talk • contribs)

Stickylorhd Wikipedia does not have "profiles" or mere "pages". Wikipedia has articles, typically written by independent editors. Those independent editors take note of subjects that receive significant coverage in independent reliable sources and choose on their own to write about them, showing how(in this case) a musician meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable musician. Wikipedia has no interest in enhancing search results for you, helping your fans, or in aiding your internet presence. Those may be side benefits of an article, but are not our primary goal.
Please also read about how an article is not necessarily desirable. If you just want to tell the world about yourself, you should use social media or a personal website. 331dot (talk) 14:37, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What is a suitable infobox for an article about a database of green technologies?[edit]

Hi all

I'm struggling to find a good infobox for an article I'm writing about a large database of green technologies, does anyone have any suggstions?

Thanks

. John Cummings (talk) 14:52, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox website? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:00, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect, thanks Lee Vilenski. John Cummings (talk) 16:03, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed typo in template "u". JIP | Talk 03:07, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

template question[edit]

user's template example

Doc1; "Template:abc " mw-collapsible

Doc2: "general doc"

wikitable"
표 제목
내용

Question: why the template abc is not operated in general doc. "mw-collapsed" class is not operated in the template??? thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rlakk00 (talk • contribs) 16:04, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I do not understand your question. It this a question about {{abc}}, or was "abc" intended to be a generic name? -Arch dude (talk) 16:32, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Rlakk00, this is the third question you have asked here on abstruse bits of template and CSS (the others are here and here). These are your only edits to Wikipedia. Hardly anybody has attempted to answer your questions, I think because most people have no idea what you're talking about. People could help you a lot more if you explained what article or draft you are working on, and what you are trying to achieve. --ColinFine (talk) 17:49, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rlakk00: I will copy my answers from Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 August 25#I have a question. Please answer a qustion... since I still guess they apply to your poorly described situation. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:31, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This is a help page for the English Wikipedia. I guess you refer to code at another unidentified wiki. Please always say which wiki a post is about if it's not the English Wikipedia. The code looks correct but it requires mw-collapsible and mw-collapsed to be implemented at the wiki. See mw:Manual:Collapsible elements. Collapsing only works for users with JavaScript enabled in their browser. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:57, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The code works at Wikipedia with a browser with JavaScript. If you want us to examine why it doesn't work somewhere else then say where it is. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:46, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

uploading a photo[edit]

how do you upload a photo in wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kell kelly quiona (talk • contribs) 19:24, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kell kelly quiona: Hi there! I like using the Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard to upload photos or images. Note the sentence (and its links) stating "Please ensure you understand copyright and the image use policy before proceeding." Copyright is taken very seriously, and you cannot just upload any photo you find on the internet to Wikipedia. If you don't own the photo, but you know the photographer, have them read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 19:49, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Commenting out" whole paragraphs or citations while rewriting[edit]

I've started rewriting this article. At present it consists of an introductory paragraph which I've added, followed by the original text. The original has a few major problems, which I've mentioned on the Talk page.

One is that the citations, though potentially relevant, are very tangential to the text where they're placed. Another is that the original text mostly consists of either confused or deliberately nonsensical summaries of material from some relevant academic papers. (The page was created by a subsequently banned user as their second edit, and I'm honestly not sure whether they intended to create a coherent article.)

I don't yet want to completely discard the existing material or the citations. Neither do I really want to move them to the talk page. For now they're most useful where they are, to refer to while rewriting. I'm thinking the simplest thing is probably to put <!-- --> comments round them so I can edit with the material in situ.

It will mean creating some pretty substantial HTML comments. Is this considered a reasonable use of them?

Musiconeologist (talk) 20:14, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Musiconeologist: there is no reason to retain that material in the article or on the talk page, because it is retained in older versions in the article history. If for some reason you feel that others might want to look at it for a specific reason, put a brief note on on the article's talk page. (e.g., "The article was a disaster and I completely reworked it: see the horrible predecessor in the article history"). -Arch dude (talk) 20:22, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Musiconeologist, my own experience with rewriting drafts which have been rejected as articles is that
Keep, and study, the existing references; look for more references; delete all the content; rewrite the draft based on what the sources say
is very much easier than
Maintain any of the existing content (even as comments), and let it distract you from the necessary work.
Maproom (talk) 20:47, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Maproom: @Arch dude: Thanks both—I'll keep the references and delete the content, I think. (Ironically, the citations that are there aren't the ones the content is based on, either! I have found those, though.) Musiconeologist (talk) 21:54, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Two articles called Michel Roux[edit]

Michel Roux was a chef - his nephew Michel_Roux_Jr. is also a chef - he used the jr. to seperate himself from his Uncle - it's not part of his name. Reading an Article in The London Times - he's now dropped the jr and just goes by Michel Roux. ... so how where would a moved article be called? Cameron Scott (talk) Cameron Scott (talk) 20:38, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Quite simple. The Chef Formerly Known As Michel Roux Jr --Verbarson (talk) 21:40, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I endorse this solution :-). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.193.129.71 (talk) 09:30, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If their names, nationalities and professions are identical, then there's always the option to call them Michel Roux (born 1941) and Michel Roux (born 1960). It's awkward, but at least it gets the job done. JIP | Talk 21:40, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Default watchlist duration[edit]

Hello all! I have Twinkle set up to automatically add any page I edit with Twinkle to my watchlist for 7 days. I would like to do this for non-Twinkle edits as well, but the only option I see in my preferences is to add any pages I edit to my watchlist permanently, which I don't want. Is there a way to change the default watchlist duration, or am I stuck watchlisting for 7 days manually? Squeakachu (talk) 22:10, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Squeakachu: You should be able to change the duration of your subscription to a page. I'm not using the legacy editor but the 2017 editing toolbar (which is for all intents and purposes the visual editor's toolbar), and when I press Publish changes, there's a small dropdown menu next to Watch this page that can adjust said duration. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:29, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I'm familiar with that function. I was hoping there was some setting I had overlooked where I could automate it so I wouldn't need to specify a watchlist duration every time I edit an article not already on my watchlist, but if there's no way to do that it's not exactly the end of the world. Thank you for your response. Squeakachu (talk) 07:06, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Squeakachu: You reminded me this was something I had wanted as well before, so I decided to write a user script that does exactly that. If you use the source editor, you can install it by following the instructions in the comment at the top of the script. – Rummskartoffel 20:37, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rummskartoffel Neat! Thank you very much. Squeakachu (talk) 21:25, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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