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June 20[edit]

Chart Performance on Alive and Kicking[edit]

Can you fix the error i made please thank you. 68.102.42.216 (talk) 02:38, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done There was a missing pipe between the URL and the title which caused an error message for both. Also the date goes in 'date' not 'last'. Eagleash (talk) 05:10, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adding Links in Edit Summary[edit]

When filling out the edit summary after publishing changes, is it ever appropriate to add a link to a webpage to cite your removal of information? How would I do that? NedTown5000 (talk) 07:04, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@NedTown5000: Just copy/paste it in. It won't show up as a clickable link, but people can copy/paste it into a browser to see it. E.g., "Removed blah according to https://example.com/foo". —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 07:54, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

how to write a wiki[edit]

how to write a wiki — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zkw adrian (talk • contribs) 10:26, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Zkw adrian One does not "write a wiki", I think you mean "write a Wikipedia article". Successfully writing a new article is the absolute hardest task to perform on Wikipedia. New users who dive right in to creating articles often do so without an understanding of the process, and often end up disappointed and with hurt feelings as something they spent hours on is mercilessly edited and deleted by others. I don't want you to have a bad experience, so I would strongly suggest that before attempting to create a new article, that you first spend much time(months, ideally) editing existing articles in areas that interest you, to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content. It's also good to use the new user tutorial to learn more about Wikipedia.
If you still want to attempt to create an article, you should first read Your First Article, and then use Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft for review by another editor, before it is formally placed in the encyclopedia. This way you get feedback on it first, instead of afterwards when it will be treated more critically. 331dot (talk) 10:38, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible to link to a sandbox with it already opened in Edit view?[edit]

I realise there is a Sandbox link on my toolbar. The reason I don't just use it is that I would like to have the sandbox already opened in Edit mode.

Specifically: on my User page, I would like to have a link in the table of contents leading to my sandbox, opened in edit mode.

At present in my User page, immediately under the heading "Subpages to this User page", I have added a line of code that doesn't do the job (I've left it there to show where I'd like to have the workable link): ====[[/sandbox#Current drafting|Current drafting]]====. I formatted it as a level 4 heading so it will appear in the table of contents — which is the second desideratum.

Can any one help me to implement that, please? SCHolar44🇦🇺 💬 10:41, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@SCHolar44: Help:My sandbox#Customizing has code to make a sandbox edit link at top of all pages. You cannot make an edit link with a wikilink [[..]]. You need external link syntax like Edit sandbox. It works in section headings. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:27, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks, @PrimeHunter:! Much appreciated. SCHolar44 (talk) 11:35, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Karen[edit]

I am insulted that my name is associated with a nasty American trump supporting woman. I am being targeted and mocked and am non of the above apart from being a British white lady calling USA now my home. Please stop I care about people and you should care about us too. It’s hurtful and offensive. Change the name to something that won’t hurt people. So it now before too many others are hurt and labeled wrongly. Please I beg you. ???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:582:4A00:D060:967:DAEF:6B5A:94D2 (talk) 11:35, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a general help desk, but a place to ask questions about using Wikipedia. If this involves Wikipedia, please clarify. 331dot (talk) 11:48, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, Karen, but Wikipedia cannot help you with this. -Arch dude (talk) 14:36, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
IP editor: We don't create stupid things like Karen – we're just forced to write about it (or allow it to be written about) here if it's notable (being written about significantly by reliable sources). We don't have the power to affect what stupid people call stupid things. If people associate you with the stereotype simply because you (and millions of other people) share a common given name with her/it, they are dumber than those who created and propagated it. Welcome to the 21st century. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 15:32, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I hope our manager doesn't get called in. —valereee (talk) 16:11, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It's OK, valereee. We're all volunteers, so none of us work here. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.203.10.153 (talk) 20:47, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

City of London Solicitors' Company[edit]

Ref number 1 may not need the quote and it is in red - I found it hard to gauge the publishers. Please help and thanks 175.32.219.132 (talk) 11:57, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of using the Help Desk to request edits, you should request edits on article talk pages as formal edit requests if you are unable or unwilling to make an edit yourself. 331dot (talk) 12:18, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, I knew you'd be angry. I tried all sorts of solutions, but it still comes up red. I will just leave it. Sorry. 175.32.219.132 (talk) 12:49, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What makes you think I am angry? I am not angry at all. I am simply informing you of the proper forum to do what it is that you want to do. 331dot (talk) 14:05, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
IP editor: What the error message said was: External link in |publisher= (help), which should be self-explanatory (and if not, there's a link – help – that describes it more completely. The problem was that you added a cite with |publisher=http://thelondonsolicitors.co.uk/# – an external link in the publisher parameter, which is not allowed. The |publisher= parameter does not accept external links (i.e. those starting with http:// or https://), nor do most other citation parameters. The publisher, website, newspaper, magazine, journal, etc. parameters all expect the name of a source, possibly wikilinked if we have an article for them, not a url (especially since you already have a field for the url, called |url=. In this case, instead of a |publisher= parameter, Eagleash add a |website=thelondonsolicitors.co.uk, though it could have also been |website=London Solicitors.
What puzzles many of us is why you won't just remove something like that when the very simple error message points you clearly to it, or, failing that, why you wouldn't just undo your edit that caused it by going to the history page of the article, looking for the change that caused it, and click the "undo" link. It's one thing to make an occasional, difficult to find, mistake that you need help with, but this has been going on for years, with a small family of articles, always with the same type of simple syntax problem with cites. "Frustrated" would be a better description of what some of us feel. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 16:00, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A problem of using Template:NoteTag[edit]

I use the template NoteTag to write in an article including a note with refs, but there's an effect that's not desired. Here, I quote what code I entered: 

|[note 1]


==Notes==
  1. ^ a b Yi Su-gil (이수길) was by birth the 5th of Prince Yi Kang, and by extension a grandson of Gojong, but he was later adopted as the heir to Baron Yi Yin-yong (이인용, 1907-1950); therefore his genealogy goes by his adoptive father.[1] He was also known as other names, including Yi Ju (이주/李鑄).[2] 
==References==
  1. ^ "황실 후손이 매국노의 양자로…". No. 574. 한겨레21. 2005-08-25. Retrieved 20 June 2020.
  2. ^ "문화유산신문". 문화유산신문. Retrieved 20 June 2020.

How is this note having "a, b" if there's only one place in the article to reference? How to fix this? - George6VI (talk) 16:37, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@George6VI: I don't know exactly – there's something duplicative above having noteTag both inline and in the list below. I'm not familiar with that particular template. I like the following. Note there are other naming styles available, shown at {{Efn}} (-la, -ur, etc.). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 16:52, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Notes[edit]

  1. ^ Yi Su-gil (이수길) was by birth the 5th of Prince Yi Kang, and by extension a grandson of Gojong, but he was later adopted as the heir to Baron Yi Yin-yong (이인용, 1907-1950); therefore his genealogy goes by his adoptive father.[1] He was also known as other names, including Yi Ju (이주/李鑄).[2]

References[edit]

  1. ^ "황실 후손이 매국노의 양자로…". No. 574. 한겨레21. 2005-08-25. Retrieved 20 June 2020.
  2. ^ "문화유산신문". 문화유산신문. Retrieved 20 June 2020.
Well, my purpose of using this template is not to write such a long note in the paragraph and bring it under that paragraph instead (especially that place is in a table so it would look too lengthy in code if I don't separate them). But now this "a b" bug really makes this template imperfect, if there's nothing wrong in my usage. - George6VI (talk) 17:00, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@George6VI:This should work[a]

Notes[edit]

  1. ^ Yi Su-gil (이수길) was by birth the 5th of Prince Yi Kang, and by extension a grandson of Gojong, but he was later adopted as the heir to Baron Yi Yin-yong (이인용, 1907-1950); therefore his genealogy goes by his adoptive father.[1] He was also known as other names, including Yi Ju (이주/李鑄).[2]

References[edit]

  1. ^ "황실 후손이 매국노의 양자로…". No. 574. 한겨레21. 2005-08-25. Retrieved 20 June 2020.
  2. ^ "문화유산신문". 문화유산신문. Retrieved 20 June 2020.
- Timbaaa -> ping me 04:44, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My recent edits[edit]

So some edits I made on the 19 and earlier today haven't been displayed as the most recent change for those pages, but when I check the edit history for those pages (i.e. Xiao (mythology)) and my contributions it shows them as existing. What gives? Is it just a bug that will eventually fix itself? Hse643 (talk) 18:12, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Hse643: I see your edit on Xiao (mythology). Try to bypass your cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:50, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Weirdness at Steve Nunn[edit]

In the Amanda's Law section, there's a weird block quote that on my browser/machine combo bleeds over into the left sidebar navigation area. I took a look at the code and don't recognize any of it lol... —valereee (talk) 20:54, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed by [1]. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:22, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! —valereee (talk) 22:27, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Work ethic[edit]

Please don't get angry - refs 3 and 4 on this page are the same - I cannot "double them up" which I have seen in other articles. please do this if you can. Thanks 175.32.219.132 (talk) 23:44, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please follow the instructions at WP:NAMEDREFS. GoingBatty (talk) 01:07, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed FWIW editor has been given precise instructions how to do this on several occasions by more than one editor. Eagleash (talk) 11:33, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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