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September 22[edit]

New Article Request[edit]

Hi There,

This is Jatinder Singh From Shimla (H.P) India. I am here to ask for a help on writing a article on a Doctor that is living in Shimla. The main Concern of getting an article is that he has been awarded with more than 75 awards out of which 60+ are international. He has also been awarded with the (Honorable) and can use this with his name. His name is Honorable Dr. Jaidev Singh Retola (His Excellency). I want to get all his details updated on wikipedia so that his contribution towards Medical should be known to world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itshoneeey (talkcontribs) 07:22, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry but "should be known to [the] world" is explicitly not the purpose of Wikipedia, no matter how worthy the subject. Wikipedia, as an encyclopaedia, is for the purpose of summarising and collecting information which has already been written about by reliable sources. Now, if Dr Retola has received all these awards, then he probably does meet the criteria of notability for living persons, but any article must cite the reliable sources which have written about him. If you want to write an article about him, I suggest you start with WP:Your first article, and then make use of the WP:Article wizard. --ColinFine (talk) 09:49, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Jatinder, welcome to Wikipedia! I agree with ColinFine but neither of us want to discourage you from creating this article of Dr. Jaidev Singh, provided he is notable, which it appears he is, and provided reliable sources have published information about him, which you must be willing to locate and reference. Are you ready to do that? I did a quick Google search and found at least one reliable source at the International Network for Economics and Conflict here. There could be many more, and it is up to you to find them! Follow the suggestions at the links we have provided, and feel free to go to our talk page to ask any questions. —Prhartcom (talk) 15:14, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jucu, Romania[edit]

Jucu is most famous for corruption, theft and deceit <allegations redacted>.

See <url removed> and more recently which is still under construction <url removed>

Charles — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.126.138.2 (talk) 12:03, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but Wikipedia is not the place to expose alleged corruption or criminality. If there are reliable published sources (such as major newspapers) which talk about corruption in Jucu, then a Wikipedia article may report on what these sources say (assuming the consensus of editors agrees that the matter is notable). But the two sites you have named appear to be self-published, and are therefore not acceptable as sources for information in Wikipedia. I have removed the specific allegations you added above, as such claims may not appear anywhere in Wikipedia unless cited to a reliable source. --ColinFine (talk) 13:20, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Given that Google indexes this page, I've also removed the (attack) URLs. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 01:35, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

finding out about attribution and higher resolution file[edit]

I wish to use an image which the contributor states is licensed under Creative Commons with the provision, "You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work)", but I cannot find anywhere the author's the desired attribution. I am trying to find out how the author wants the attribution to read. Also, the resolution of the image on Wikipedia is 180 dpi and I need at least 300 dpi. I wish to ask the author if it's possible to get a file with at least 300 dpi resolution. I cannot find any means to contact the author. I've gone to his wiki page and clicked on the "talk" tab but I don't see how to enter a question there.P.ueda (talk) 15:16, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You can ask a question on that user's talk page in exactly the same way as you have here. Click on the new section tab at the top, and add a subject and the text of the question in the appropriate boxes.
Why don't you also tell us what picture you're talking about, so we can see if we can offer you any other assistance? Rojomoke (talk) 16:25, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
http://creativecommons.org.au/content/attributingccmaterials.pdf is an essay that CC recommends. I think the main problem is very few use the 1=attribution statement switch on the CC license templates.--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:12, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

stuck with table -[edit]

I want to add a 2013 column here but keep breaking the table - anyone able to help? --Cameron Scott (talk) 17:26, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what you were trying to do, and what sort of problems you were seeing, but how does this look? - David Biddulph (talk) 17:45, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Spot on - I was trying to add the times ranking that came out today. --Cameron Scott (talk) 18:02, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Username created automatically[edit]

Dear editors: I was checking out the User creation log when I saw a username that appeared to be a company name. I was going to report it, but there was a note after the name saying that it was created automatically. Can someone tell me what this means? —Anne Delong (talk) 17:39, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Something to do with unified login. If the account was created on another project, unified login would then create an account here. See, for example: Special:CentralAuth/Anne Delong. If you click in the "method" column, you'll see some of your accounts were automatically created. If the username violates the username policy, you should report it. RudolfRed (talk) 18:16, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! —Anne Delong (talk) 01:33, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is it a wp:or - improving a low resolution cropped image[edit]

A first question: I want to extract an emblem which is painted on the car side (the same emblem in few photos). If the image is cropped to the emblem size, the resolution becomes too poor. is it allowed to improve the image quality? (in terms of wp:or or any other criteria).

possible source images:

  1. a better image but not a wikipedia image


An example of a target image:

Note that the emblem details are described in few wp:rs. e.g. book: "1948: The First Arab-Israeli War" by Benny Morris, chapter "Operations Yoav and Hiram", page 340, "Qawuqji’s troops fled in the direction of the Jermak...We captured two...armored vehicles taken from us in the Yehiam Convoy and now decorated with the symbol of the ALA, a bent dagger dripping blood, stuck in the heart of a Shield of David"

A second question: Some editors (in response to my question) said that the emblem was added latter to those 3 source images. Is there a relevant Wikipedia forum in which one may ask whether those 3 source images are supposedly fake (in terms of the emblem), or not fake? Ykantor (talk) 17:43, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Ykantor: - Please do not ask in a new place when you don't like the responses you get elsewhere, particularly since you asked first at the Graphics Lab, which is where the experts on this question are to be found. Since the consensus is that you should not create a new image, I suggest that you drop the matter and move on to something else. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 04:11, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@Ykantor: - You cannot have missed their conclusion : Note: It has been suggested by Graphics Lab editors that the dagger and star emblem in this photo may have been added at some point after the photo was taken. This might be a doctored image. Pluto2012 (talk) 05:54, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@John Broughton:How could I know that a technical problem is subjected to a consensus too? (actually, it is rather strange).Especially so since the consensus here are 2 editors only, and one of them is not sure. moreover, the wp:rs literal description is fairly close to those images, which means that a similar emblem have existed. . Note that I provided the link to the Wikipedia:Graphics_Lab. Thank you for your prompt reply. Ykantor (talk) 17:30, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@Ykantor: Thinking about this, the most relevant issue isn't NOR or copyright, it's WP:UNDUE. Wikipedia, as an encyclopedia, is intended to be an overview. That you've found a single reliable source (I'm taking your word for that) who mentions this image does not mean that the image is worth adding to a Wikipedia article. If that were the criteria, Wikipedia articles would be the length of small books, as everyone added every single detail that they found in new sources.
If this emblem were important - if there were lots of mentions of it in contemporary accounts, or if it had been discussed repeatedly in subsequent historical analyses, then there would be a good argument for including it in a Wikipedia article. But you've not said that - rather, you've found it described in one source, and seen it on a couple of images - and not by itself, something that one would expect if the emblem itself really were important. So again, may I suggest that you drop this idea and move on to something else. There are plenty of Wikipedia articles that are missing basic, essential information. For example, the page Wikipedia:WikiProject Israel/Assessment shows that there are 287 articles rated "high" importance that are start class. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:29, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • @John Broughton: there several sources, as it can be seen in a partial list at the end. Initially I added it to the image to the article for the same reason have added recently other images- to make it more interactive. The detail is not so important because at those years, the Arab call to kill the Jews in Palestine ( talking, declaration, pogroms and so on) was the norm rather than an unusual phenomena.
  • A Google book search provide some sources for this emblem (literally. without an image):
  1. book: "1948: The First Arab-Israeli War" by Benny Morris, chapter "Operations Yoav and Hiram", page 340, "Qawuqji’s troops fled in the direction of the Jermak...We captured two...armored vehicles taken from us in the Yehiam Convoy and now decorated with the symbol of the ALA, a bent dagger dripping blood, stuck in the heart of a Shield of David"
  2. Martin Gilbert - 1998, "Israel: A History" , Page 236
  3. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict in history and civics ... - Page 76; Ruth Firer, ‎Sāmī ʻAbd al-Razzāq ʻAdwān, ‎Falk Pingel - 2004
  4. "the Army of Liberation emblem — a dagger thrust into a David's Shield. "
  5. More Hebrew books