Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/오빠는 풍각쟁이

오빠는 풍각쟁이[edit]

A 1938 teuroteu by Kim Song Kyu and Park Yeong Ho. Sung by Park Hyang Rim.

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This is a fine example of an early Korean teuroteu (trot). One of the basic styles of popular music in South Korea, it went into disfavour for a few decades due to perceived Japanese connections (Korea was invaded by Japan in WWII), but is regaining popularity now.

As far as I can tell, we have no other examples of free-use Korean music. Indeed, the free licence on this is only possible because everyone involved with it - singer, lyricist, and composer - died tragically young, the singer at just 25 years old, and the composer and lyricist in their early forties. I think it's clear from this that all three were very talented people.

The information page has been filled out by investigative work by me, Filll, Caspian blue, and a few people that I don't believe have Wikipedia accounts [Filll - can you add some details here? You organised that part].

I contacted a friend in Japan (He has no account in English Wikipedia I believe, but uses the screen name Michi) for assistance in translation. Although he does not speak Korean, he knows many people who speak Korean. We had extensive discussions of this song in Japanese and Korean (primarily with a Korean lady who goes by the screen name Mirei). Part of the difficulty in translating this song is that the lyrics include less well known terms that are slang words, or from a regional dialect. We translated the song into Japanese (and this translation will be forthcoming) and then from Japanese into English. I believe that Shoemaker was able to use the English translation by Caspian blue, and the English translation by Michi, Mirei and myself to compose the final English translation.--Filll (talk | wpc) 00:13, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The translation on the page mixes elements of the Filll-Mirei-Michi translation and a rough literal translation by User:Caspian blue. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 00:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This song is used in Music of South Korea and Teuroteu.

Co-nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 19:33, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Co-nominate and support.--Filll (talk | wpc) 00:13, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support per nom ¡ Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs ! 08:33, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support I am sorry I had to do that, but I was not getting any clear answers. Now that everything appears to be in the clear legally, I can support. Zginder 2008-08-21T04:29Z (UTC)
- It's alright, I just hate dealing with the whole conoluted mess that is international copyright, and after spending two days chexcking it was PD in South Korea, it's annoyinbg to have to spend another 2 on America. =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 09:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom.--Caspian blue (talk) 04:42, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Archived copyright discussion, long story short, it's in the public domain in America, Korea, and anywhere that uses the rule of the shorter term.

Archiving to tidy - undo if you disagree.

What is the copyright status of the song in the USA? Zginder 2008-08-19T13:49Z (UTC)
- Rule of the shortest term puts it out of copyright. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 13:51, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The USA does not use the rule of the shorter term. Zginder 2008-08-19T13:55Z (UTC)
  - Well, it was never published in the US, so I don't see how it could have gained a US copyright. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 14:32, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - According to the Uruguay Round Agreements Act it should be under copyright. Z gin der 2008-08-20T00:53Z (UTC)
Note, Zginder requested the file up for deletion without any evidence of his claim. Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Image:박향림 오빠는 풍각쟁이.ogg--Caspian blue (talk) 04:06, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Long story short, on Commons we managed to navigate the maze of South Korean copyright, and found out that A. recordings only stay in copyright 50 years from publication, so the recording's fine for U.S. law, and, for complicated reasons you can read on the linked copyright discussion, the lyrics and music weren't copyright in 1996 either. God, I HATE copyright law! It's eeevil! Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 00:37, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted Park_Hyang-rim_-_Oppaneun_punggakjaeng-i.ogg east718 // talk // email // 05:51, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Historic note the file was renamed twice and is now Park Hyang-rim - Oppaneun punggakjaeng-i.ogg. Z gin der 2011-01-09T18:58Z (UTC)