Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/After the War a Medal and Maybe a Job
After the War a Medal and Maybe a Job[edit]
- Reason
- Period political cartoons can be effective at drawing readers into a subject. This depicts antiwar sentiment at the outset of World War I. Restored version of File:After the war a medal and maybe a job.jpg.
- Articles this image appears in
- Opposition to World War I, John French Sloan
- Creator
- John French Sloan
- Support as nominator --Durova379 01:07, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Support Opposition to World War I needs work though. Noodle snacks (talk) 11:04, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Support Great image. Staxringold talkcontribs 15:34, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Support GerardM (talk) 10:44, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose Not convinced of the EV for this one: it's not clearly opposition to WWI, and in fact on the artist's page, near where this image appears, he is quoted as denying that he draws with a political subtext. Instead this article can be seen as a general commentary on the human condition. Or if it does have a subtext, it could be about the treatment of veterans or about social classes in capitalism, rather than opposition to the war as such. It does have EV for artist Sloan, but it's not clear this is among the most representative examples of his work, which the article identifies as a kind of realism similar to Hopper. Fletcher (talk) 17:08, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- What the article says is that he disliked overt propaganda. He published for various news periodicals and was quite active in politics. A distaste for polemics doesn't necessarily mean complete absence of political subtext. Durova379 22:08, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- That's true enough, but I stand by what I said that the subtext isn't clearly opposition to WWI. Fletcher (talk) 02:58, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- I would say that saying this is original research might technically be correct, but it's really streching the bounds of it. The cartoon is about a wounded soldier asking for money from a rich capitalist. I would say that it might be original research to say that it is a pro-Socialist cartoon, but I feel it is fairly evident that there is no way this could be a pro-war or even a neutral-war cartoon. Perhaps I misunderstood your point, what else could it possibly be? NW (Talk) 03:25, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm saying it would have just as much EV if not more in Criticism of capitalism. I'm saying that while one might suspect the author is anti-war, this particular cartoon addresses social classes rather than the war directly. I would think more topical antiwar cartoons were produced, some of which should be in the public domain. Fletcher (talk) 23:44, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- I would say that saying this is original research might technically be correct, but it's really streching the bounds of it. The cartoon is about a wounded soldier asking for money from a rich capitalist. I would say that it might be original research to say that it is a pro-Socialist cartoon, but I feel it is fairly evident that there is no way this could be a pro-war or even a neutral-war cartoon. Perhaps I misunderstood your point, what else could it possibly be? NW (Talk) 03:25, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- That's true enough, but I stand by what I said that the subtext isn't clearly opposition to WWI. Fletcher (talk) 02:58, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- What the article says is that he disliked overt propaganda. He published for various news periodicals and was quite active in politics. A distaste for polemics doesn't necessarily mean complete absence of political subtext. Durova379 22:08, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Support NW (Talk) 22:13, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Promoted File:After the war a medal and maybe a job2.jpg --jjron (talk) 13:04, 18 December 2009 (UTC)