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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 00:35, 30 May 2009 [1].

List of PWG World Champions[edit]

Nominator(s): WillC 08:13, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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I am nominating this for featured list because... I'm working on title histories that are long enough to become FLs. Taken from the PWG World Championship that will be expanded in the future, once a free-use image is gotten of the title. Passes all the criteria in my mind. I followed my other recent FLs. Mainly the most recent two: List of ROH World Champions and List of ROH World Tag Team Champions (mostly the first one). Also, yes the event titles are correct. Bad Ass Mother 3000 - Stage 2, Free Admission (Just Kidding), Zombies (Shouldn't Run), etc are the real event titles. Now "N/A" is not an event title, though is very likely. The owners of PWG have interesting senses of humors. For future reference, I will also be nominating the PWG World Tag Team Championship list in the future once I've completed work on it and if this one passes.WillC 08:13, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008
Comments –
  • "The championship was created and debuted on August 30, 2003 at PWG's Bad Ass Mother 3000 - Stage 2 event." En dash here and for the other event names?
  • Don't need to repeat Kazarian's first name.
  • "Low Ki, the wrestler who had to vacate the championship due to an injury". I'd drop "the wrestler" because nothing is said before this about an injury that forced a title change.
  • Any non-primary sources possible besides the Solie one? Giants2008 (17-14) 22:51, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Probably, I haven't checked. PWG gave me everything I needed so I never went out looking for anything.--WillC 03:58, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • It would be good for you to check. Even if you can only find one or two good replacements, it would be worth the effort. Giants2008 (17-14) 22:45, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • Exactly what are you wanting me to look for? Event reports, title history refs, or both?--WillC 22:58, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
          • Okay, I found sources at 411mania.com and Slam Sports regrading PWG events. Oddly I found none but at PWG's site and solie for the official title history, but then again PWG is still underground wrestling, mainly located just in Southern Cali. I'll keep looking though.--WillC 23:15, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • I found a title history ref at title histories.com. Now out of the three I've found so far, only one is sure fire reliable: Slam Sports. 411Mania and Title histories are uncertain, though both have been used in multiple GAs, a few FAs, and a few FLs, including one that was recently featured. I'll keep looking from time to time on sites though.--WillC 02:11, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • Don't try to force it if the sites aren't reliable. I'd consider Slam Sports to be the only reliable one of the three. Just wanted to see if something besides a bunch of primary sources could be used. Apparently there isn't much. Giants2008 (17-14) 15:22, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • Yeah, there isn't really much. PWG is still pretty small so it isn't covered by alot of sites.--WillC 17:20, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support – I'm convinced that the primary sources are the best avaliable in this situation, and the Solie ref is probably good enough as a secondary source anyway. Everything else looks up to scratch. Giants2008 (17-14) 01:22, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:15, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
  • "that month, then-champion, Joey Ryan, defeated Jonny Storm in Orpington, England " Remove commas after "champion" and "Ryan".
  • "which are later released on DVD."
  • "sixteen man tournament"-->16-man tournament
  • "PWG's Bad Ass Mother 3000 - Stage 2 event" Why does this one use a hyphen?
    • It just does. That is the way PWG wrote it down on their website. It was also the way it was in the title history when it was apart of the PWG World Championship.
  • "to vacant the championship due to an injury" I think you mean "vacate".Dabomb87 (talk) 01:49, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Fixed. My bad, must have not noticed my error.--WillC 03:27, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:15, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Using "Pro Wrestling Guerrilla" and "Pro Wrestling Guerrilla.com." is redundant, delete the italicized work. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:49, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Truco

Review by Truco (talk · contribs) -- Great work Will.

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  • I recommend linking tournament to an appropriate description.
  • You use last names and full names on second occurrences, be consistent.
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  • I'm not a real fan of center aligning the names, why has this been done? It looks awkward since some of the other columns are left-aligned.
    • Dabomb87 told me in previous FLcs that it should be that way or wanted it that way, been a while since the first time he/she mentioned it.
      • The names aren't that big a deal, I only really care about having columns with figures centered. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:25, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Slam sports ref should have Slam Sports as SLAM! Sports - Wrestling--Truco 22:57, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Done and thank you. There are more to come. I have about three or four lists done that are ready to be nominated. But I'm waiting patiently before I do.--WillC 23:19, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- Previous issues resolved; article now meets WP:WIAFL.--Truco 20:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support - just a stylistic thing, though, I'd suggest at least centering the locations. It's a little incongruous having those left-aligned while all the data around them are centered. I think the event and notes columns are fine the way they are. Geraldk (talk) 01:43, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the support and done.--WillC 16:37, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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