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The list was promoted by Hahc21 10:01, 17 December 2013 (UTC) [1].[reply]

Arsenal F.C. league record by opponent[edit]

Nominator(s): Lemonade51 (talk) 21:34, 2 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nominating this again after no 'consensus' was reached at the first time of asking. A complete list of Arsenal's record against every team they have played in the league, which wasn't the case when I nominated this months ago. All feedback is welcome, thanks. Lemonade51 (talk) 21:34, 2 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There should be a totals row. Nergaal (talk) 10:05, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Confused. There is already a totals row. Unless you mean something else? Lemonade51 (talk) 20:56, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I believe he means at the very bottom of the article there should be a totals column for Arsenals overall record throughout their history. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 21:26, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure whether that is a necessary requirement. It'll be easy to accumulate the Premier League total, but very time-consuming for the other leagues Arsenal have played. Lemonade51 (talk) 17:05, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Anyway, other than what Eddie said I can not find anything wrong with this list. It has everything someone doing research would expect and more. Easily earns my support. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 22:57, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Eddie6705 (talk) 20:19, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Introduction

First Division doesn't need to be linked twice in the first paragraph.

Removed.

Even though the article links to 2005-06 FA Premier League, i'm not sure it looks good having the words 'Premier League' as part of the link, as other season just have the years linked. I would suggest removing the words from the link. Same goes for 1894-95 Football League Season link.

Done.

" The team that Arsenal have played most in league competition is Manchester United, who they first met in the 1894–95 Football League season; the 78 defeats from 188 meetings is more than Arsenal have lost against any other club." suggest removing one of the mentions of Arsenal from that sentence, as the word Arsenal is used a lot in the last few sentences of the second paragraph.

removed Arsenal at second mention.

Key

"The table includes results of matches played by Arsenal (under that name and under former names Royal Arsenal and Woolwich Arsenal) in the United League, the Southern District Combination, the London League Premier Division, the Football League and the Premier League. Matches from the abandoned 1939–40 Football League season are excluded, as are games in the various wartime competitions." Firstly, i would rephrase the first sentence to say The table includes results of matches played by Arsenal (including under the former names of Royal Arsenal and Woolwich Arsenal). Secondly, add 'the' between 'as are' and 'games' in the second sentence.

Done and done.

Table

Burnley's figures to not total correctly.

You are right. Fixed.

Portsmouth away doesn't add up.

Fixed

Manchester United has 79 for defeats, yet in the article it states 78.

Whoops. Updated the table after United beat Arsenal a week and half ago, but forgot to tweak the prose to reflect that. Done it now.

There are several inconsistencies with the links to season articles. For example, Glossop links to 1899-1900 Football League, but Arsenal weren't in the same division as them that season. Also, Chatham is linked to 1899-1900 in English Football, while Chesterfield Town is linked to 1899-1900 Football League.

There isn't a United League (football) article (or Southern District Combination one for that matter), where Arsenal first played Glossop and Chatham, so I linked them to the respective English football season articles. Changed to specific articles, albeit with red links.

Hope that helps. Eddie6705 (talk) 18:00, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your thorough review! Lemonade51 (talk) 19:11, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In regards to the season articles, and the fact that some of the years relate to different leagues (united league, football league etc) it night be worth adding some sort of note and symbol to show that the first match against a club was in either the united league or southern district combination league.

Adding symbols would mean adding a colour scheme and in the case of West Ham, it would have been conflicting as they are Arsenal's divisional opponents, who they first met in the London League. So left notes clubs Arsenal first played in the United League, the Southern District Combination, the London League Premier Division (ie: discontinued leagues). Lemonade51 (talk) 21:32, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That is probably a better way of showing the information. All issues resolved. Support. Eddie6705 (talk) 22:50, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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