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Kids See Ghosts (album)[edit]

I am nominating the album Kids See Ghosts by the duo of the same name to become a good topic, after the main article has only seen improvements from me following on from its GA pass in September 2019. Since then, all of the song articles were brought to GA status in the past year and there was stability issues with "Feel the Love" and "Fire" receiving AFD noms, but those were closed as keep so I decided to create the nomination thereafter. Kids See Ghosts was a widespread critical success, while the songs received mostly positive reception too despite no single releases! --K. Peake 14:45, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Kids See Ghosts
8 articles
"Feel the Love"
"Fire"
"4th Dimension"
"Freeee (Ghost Town, Pt. 2)"
"Reborn"
"Kids See Ghosts"
"Cudi Montage"
Contributor(s): K. Peake
  • Support: Having reviewed one of the songs from the album, I support this for promotion as I believe all the articles are well-written GAs. --Ashleyyoursmile! 16:54, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: Looks like the album and all the tracks at GA, and there doesn't appear to be an associated tour or any other related topics that should be here. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 23:16, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: Looks good to go. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 03:27, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – meets the criteria. – zmbro (talk) 04:38, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 01:02, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Comment: not sure if Hypebeast is a reliable source, as seen in "Feel the Love", "Fire", "4th Dimension" and on the album article. Daily News → Los Angeles Daily News (so there is no confusion with others), is DatNewCudi a fan site or something in that vein? as seen in "Cudi Montage". Central Sauce present on "Reborn" and on the album article seems not reliable. The album article as other dubious source, "Earbuddy". I can't support with this many concerns. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:35, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • MarioSoulTruthFan I have altered the Daily News citations to how you requested, as well as removing Earbuddy from the album article. As for Hypebeast, the non fashion and culture articles like the ones cited don't have issues with reliability as far as I'm aware (the article was not actually deleted because the source was unreliable), DatNewCudi was a site dedicated to giving updates on Kid Cudi , rather than a fan site like KanyeToThe. Furthermore, the about page for Central Sauce explains they have creators showcase content who are "writers, data analysts, videographers, and creatives of all kinds from around the world". It further says they are no "egotistical music critics or 'hit pieces' on [the site]" and they create content for artists they're passionate about. You can tell the dedicated and in-depth writing from those who are not egotistical or provide sensational news should be reliable. --K. Peake 10:48, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding DatNewCudim so it is not an official website, who ever wrote that based him/her self on youtube clips to give the info used on the article. On top of that, that information doesn't contribute much to the article, seems a bit out of place as it is just making a connection between Cudi Montage and Cudi and Dot da Genius making a cover of another Nirvana song, which was also a cover of folk song on the following year. A note on the writer of the Central Souce article is that he is an "hip-hop enthusiast" [1]. It states "create content for artists they're passionate about", so only artistst they care about so it could be quite bias. I'm fine with Hypebeast, they don't make controversial statments regarding the album or its artwork. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 11:44, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
MarioSoulTruthFan I have now removed the unofficial website and accompanying info, but Central Source does not classify as bias when it is not used for any reception info. --K. Peake 12:00, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It is making statements on the lyrics and compostion of the song. On their "about us" page it was awarded "Best Hip Hop Blog". It is a blog and there seems not to be editorial overshight, the founder is a web disigner. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 13:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delegate comment @MarioSoulTruthFan: how's this looking? @Kyle Peake: any comment on Mario's continued concerns with Central Sauce? Are you able to find an alternative source or prove the work's reliability further? Aza24 (talk) 09:00, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I do not believe the source is unreliable because of the award when things are often awarded as what they don't actually classify as, meaning the site is not really a blog. Also, I don't see how the founder being a web designer makes it unreliable when there is a proper team of staff. --K. Peake 09:07, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Aza24 and Kyle Peake The "proper team of staff" are "a collective content platform where real hip hop fans..." 1. There seems to be an Editor-in-Chief, who is also a founder, Carter Scott, which seems to be mowehere else on the web, he goes by Carter Fowler on the website on twitter he goes by "Carter_S_Fowler". The problem is that the editor-in-chief is a web disigner and not someone with journalism background 2. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:06, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Aza24 and MarioSoulTruthFan, I have now removed the bad source from both of the articles. For the latter of you two specifically, do you now support this nom? --K. Peake 17:20, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: Great work (and a great album too), meets all the criteria. I see no issues! Giacobbe talk 13:26, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Okay well Mario has left us without their final verdict but their concerns seem appropriately addressed. Regardless, the final objection alone would likely not be enough to outweigh the support of others, but it is certainly prefferable that it was addressed. - Closed with a consensus to promote to good topic Aza24 (talk) 21:37, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Aza24 Thank you for closing with the consensus; this now marks my third GT! I have had experience seeing MarioSoulTruthFan's comments in the past and I know that if the user no longer objects, they cross out the comments and mention support. --K. Peake 09:40, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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