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Thanks!

thanks for removing the IP's accusation. I got that for reverting him on David Coleman Headley. :-)--Sodabottle (talk) 04:29, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Who are you and why I get a warning from you?

Who are you and why I get a warning from you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.71.181 (talk) 04:33, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Whoever was using the IP before you was being disruptive. —SpacemanSpiff 05:47, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Myth&Truth (talk · contribs)

Quack, quack ? Abecedare (talk) 13:33, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Looks like it, there's another one too. A CU might be good to get the sleepers out. —SpacemanSpiff 18:40, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Can you semi-protect Talk:Mahabharata and Talk:Rigveda for a week or so ? Hate to keep IPs away from talk pages, but Mkbdtu doesn't seem to be getting it. The corresponding articles may need to be semi-protected too. Abecedare (talk) 17:48, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I semi-protected the articles earlier. I've protected Talk:Mbh now, but not for too long (hate to do it on a TP), but I'll monitor it. —SpacemanSpiff 18:20, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll ping you if needed. What a waste of time! Abecedare (talk) 18:24, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Harmandir Sahib

Thanks for the protection log. It seems as if there has been aa bit of an edit war there. I was a bout to raise it with an admin. Thanks again. --Sikh-History 08:27, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

3 Revert Rule

Hi fellow editor, I think this user has broken the 3 revert rule. Thanks --Sikh-History 11:47, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Dr. Trilochan Singh on Yogi Bhajan

I am very new at this Wikipedia editing so please be patient and understanding. I have included here some references on Dr. Trilochan Singh's credibility and my own personal experiences with Yogi Bhajan. I have also posted these on the discussion page. I think most of the article on YB is very biased and some things are just wrong facts but I do not have the skills to repair and correct all of it.

Dr. Trilochan Singh's creditbility:

Please check these links for references and credible evidence of Dr. Trilochan Singh's prominence as a Sikh scholar: http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Gurdwara_Reform_Movement During the Gurdwara Reform Movement, the Sikh leaders started a publication that was named Akali. From this paper and its policy the leaders began to be called Akalis, in view of which they formed the present Akali party. These Nihang Akalis should not be confused with the members of the Akali party.’ The Turban And The Sword’' , by Dr. Trilochan Singh. (Page 402 http://www.patshahi10.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=262:the-history-and-compilation-of-the-dasm-granth-part-1-dr-trilochan-singh&catid=34:english&Itemid=63 The History and Compilation of the Dasm Granth (Part 1) - Dr. Trilochan Singh http://www.gurmat.info/sms/smspublications/amritkihain/ Amrit Ki Hain - The Meaning of Sikh Baptism by Bhai Randheer Singh (translation by Dr. Trilochan Singh) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.44.182.82 (talk) 05:37, 3 April 2010 (UTC) http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MzDtlI7p5qkC&pg=PA11&lpg=PA11&dq=dr+trilochan+singh&source=bl&ots=3GxTkXJoeP&sig=Q1xnlQMZOLT0QVSrNAAEoYH-WDU&hl=en&ei=dNK2S9aXMKG80gSO1aU1&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CCkQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=dr%20trilochan%20singh&f=false Guru Sant Singh


Concerning Dr. Trilochan Singh and Yogi Bhajan

To: Guru Fatha Singh Khalsa; you have obviously never talked to traditional Punjabi Sikhs about Dr. Trilochan Singh. Dr Trilochan Singh is a very well respected writer of Sikh history and religion. Search google and you'll find his writings at many traditional Sikh websites and read his entire book "Sikhism and Tantric Yoga" at Gurmukhyoga.com. My Punjabi Gursikh wife has high regard for Dr. Trilochan Singh. She is from the same home town in Ludhiana Punjab as he is. She read Dr. Trilochan Singh's biography of Bai Sahib Randheer Singh when she was a child and it inspired her greatly. I think you need to do more research on the values and practices of Yogi Harbhajan if you’re writing his biography. To begin with YB's surname is Puri and my wife instantly said when I told her this, "oh he is a mona Punjabi" these families are more Hindu than Sikh. If you google Puri you'll find that the Puri families are staunch Hindus. I think you'll find YB was really more of a Hindu than a Sikh. If you also search on Gurmukhyoga.com you'll find a post with pictures of Hindu gods in and around 3-HO Gurdwaras and prominently displayed at Siri Singh Sahib's (Yogi Bhajan's) estate. I spent two years in India recently and no one I met in Amritsar or the Punjab respected Yogi Harbhajan as a Sikh or even as a Yogi for that matter. Gurcharan Singh Tohra, ex president of the SGPC who you say supported YB, was nothing more than a crooked politician. I met the man in 1983 and he could hardly speak a word of English. I think any support he gave YB was because he saw all these white people supposedly converting to Sikhi but he didn't have the capacity or desire to understand what was really going on with all the sacrilegious tantric and hindu practices of Yogi Harbhajan. Gurcharan Singh Tohra was also completely disgraced during the blue star operation when he came out of the Darbar Sahib with his hands held up and surrendered to Indira Ghandi’s hooligans who attacked the Golden Temple. I am putting back sections about Dr. Trilochan Singh as it adds some balance and truth to this article on Yogi Bhajan.Guru Sant Singh (talk) 14:43, 21 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.44.182.82 (talk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.44.182.82 (talk)

Vanakkam

Hi I think its a good thing you have protected the squad. It would be really appreciated if you could change following squad numbers so that the data is accurate.

4 Doug Bollinger 5 Justin Kemp 77 Srikkanth Anirudha 99 Ravichandran Ashwin

Regards Junius

It's only semi-protected to stop the incessant addition of non-players. If you're logged in, you should be able to make changes yourself. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 16:15, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

CU

Running? Socks on India are like Taliban etc in Pakistan/Iraq/Afghanistan YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 02:57, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

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Gurjara-Pratihara Article

A user is removing references from the article.He has done it severely and also moved the article to Parihar rajputs.I need ur intervene here.Plz Also comment on this topic.Thanks Chhora (talk) 12:15, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Looks like it has been taken care of already. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 18:04, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
yes, it has been taken care of .I also request you to add the article in ur watch list.Thanks Chhora (talk) 19:09, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Great Repeal Bill listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Great Repeal Bill. Since you had some involvement with the Great Repeal Bill redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). 147.70.242.54 (talk) 19:45, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

My only involvement was to decline an R2 del req as it wasn't eligible. I have no opinion on the redirect itself. cheers —SpacemanSpiff 19:56, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

AfD

Spiff, if you have anything to say on the topic, please weigh in at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kuttiyattu paradevada temple--and if you can find something to source the article, that would be great. Just finished rereading The God of Small Things. Great first novel; I wonder if there will ever be a second. Take it easy, Drmies (talk) 04:39, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I'll take a look, was waiting for User:Salih to take a look as this is in his neck of the woods and then comment. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 05:09, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Invite

I will be writing about the Pallavas over the next few weeks. I would appreciate it if you'd review and criticize. Thanks, Sasisekar (talk) 23:35, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Sure, my on-wiki time is limited for a while, so I won't be quick, but I'll definitely take a look. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 01:34, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

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What is the issue with the Don Bosco writeup? Why is it being undone? Thanks.

Nasserg (talk) 09:23, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Pls review

Thx for pointing out the problems - new to Wiki and have added a history section for the school which does not have any original research or novel synthesis - the source is from the school website. Is this sufficient? Thx.

Nasserg (talk) 10:07, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

The school's website can be used sparingly for information. However, you have copied content that is not neutral and gives the look of an advertising brochure. That is the main problem. You can see WP:YFA to get information on how to write articles. Also, some specific links that'll be useful are WP:SPS, WP:NPOV, WP:RS, WP:V. Read through these and you'll get an idea on some of our core policies. Let me know if you have any other questions. You can also create a sandbox page at User:Nasserg/Sandbox and use that to write your content. Once you do that, you can ask a few editors for feedback, before you enter that into the main article. Hope this helps. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 10:28, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Woohoo Spiff!

Hey, do you mind having a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kuttiyattu paradevada temple? There's a matter there for your attention, and possibly you have a good suggestion for a solution. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 01:09, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

The current suggestion seems most logical. I'd do it right away but for the small matter of having commented. The next passer-by admin could userfy it. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 02:25, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Spiff, one more thing. I've just reworked Marshall 1959 a little bit, and wanted an assessment on it. I looked at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guitarists/Assessment but don't see how to nominate it for a re-assessment. What do I do with it? (Or should I suggest it for GA? It's a bit short...) Thanks! Drmies (talk) 03:34, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Generally anyone can assess at any level except GA and above IMO. I've assessed it as start, purely based on size, but it could also be assessed as C-class based on the reference quality and prose. Is that what you were asking? cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 09:10, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Yes, thanks! Drmies (talk) 14:09, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Dear sir..

I apologise my mistakes in the article of Khurai but Khurai is no more a town.. It has become a city which is the second largest in Sagar district. Even the direction boards, electric supply office has the sign board written Khurai City. (Khurai Shahar) in hindi. Your protecting tag interferes me of adding the images of such board signs, education, places of interest etc etc ..and today this article looks too wierd due to absence of such topics..do improve and approve my proposal..thank you.;) lots of love.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikindia24x7 (talk • contribs) 12:14, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

You and all your sock accounts have only been POV pushing and introducing factual inaccuracies to Wikipedia. Stop that right away or you will soon find yourself banned, not just blocked for short durations. —SpacemanSpiff 12:56, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Protecting page of Mohanlal

There has been persistent mild form of vandalism on Mohanlal. I would request you to review the history an may be protect the page for a few days. Thanks! --JovianEye (talk) 15:49, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Have watchlisted it. Most of the vandalism over the past few days is very mild and being reverted quickly, so I'm hesitant to protect right now. Will do so if it gets worse. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 16:55, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Image about Lalit Modi

Well i saw the tag that you had given and i totally agree with you about removing the image from their but i would like to see somebody to add a image of that person, because previously i do had some kind of problems while adding a image, especially which image should get which tag. Anyway you should delete that image and if possible please add one.--Kkm010as© 18:06, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Just because there's no image, we can't go around grabbing copyrighted images and add them. If you find a free image feel free to add. —SpacemanSpiff 18:25, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

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Your CCI Note on User talk:Kkm010

I noticed that the author of the pic is claimed to be Krishna Kamal Mukherjee. Could this be Kkm010? Or this assuming too much good faith? --NeilN talk to me 04:37, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

This user is Krishna Kamal Mukherjee, but he isn't the one to have taken the pictures. As he mentioned in a note above, he's just adding the {{PD-Self}} tag so that the images won't be deleted! He's done this with images that have been copyrighted by Forbes et al. —SpacemanSpiff 06:50, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

PLease have a glance, Sir

PLease have a glance, Sir at Talk:Mumbai#Reverting_again_and_again. A user named Mr. Deepak D'Souza is repeatedly reverting my constructive edits. Can U make him understand that these edits are constructive. He doesn't seem to understand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.169.6.226 (talk) 15:40, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Looks like it's already under control. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 04:29, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Ati Konanayakar

I created a new article, if you have time please take a look at it. Thanks Kanatonian (talk) 19:28, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Will take a look soon, have limited on-wiki time right now, so it might be a few days to a couple of weeks. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 20:13, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

नमस्ते!

hello...! SpacemanSpiff !!! This is abt reversion of my edits on the wikipage of Y.S.Rajasekhara Reddy. y.s.rajasekhar reddy was a doctor by profession.he received medical degree at S.V.Medical College,Tirupathi. then why can`t be prefixed "Dr." Indeed he was most popularly known as "Dr. YSR" or "Dr. Y.S.Rajasekhara reddy". please place a {{talkback}.

THANK U .
- DRAGON BOOSTER.
[[User:Dragon Booster|Dragon Booster]] (talk) 18:42, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
We don't add titles, honorifics etc to articles. See Dennis Kuchar or Fiona Caldicott as examples for people who were known as doctors. —SpacemanSpiff 19:38, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

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Temple articles

Hi, Thanks for your suggestions. Most of the temples are in the format of "XXX temple". And as per WP:AT and WP:VERB, I had been trying to synchronize all to the same format. If all temples are to be in "XXX" Temple format, pls do let me know the guidelines on the same in wikipedia. Thanks. - Thaejas (talk) 14:18, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

The "T" in temple should be capitalized as it's part of a proper noun (see WT:VERB, the example used there of Northwestern University applies in this case also). I wanted to confirm that my interpretation is correct, so I also asked this question at WT:HNB to make sure I wasn't wrong. I've moved some of them back, but since you've done a lot of work on this already, it's going to take a while to move all back. However, if you find any where it's temple instead of Temple, feel free to move them to the correct title in the meantime. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 14:21, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

WP:ITN/C

All these "cricket fans" are on there saying IPL is the biggest, again YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:30, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

The IPL saga won't ever stop! —SpacemanSpiff 05:16, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
another fine display of red ink collecting. And of course even in a 45-55 situation, give the award to SRT. I thought Raina was more effective overall with the same average and a higher SR by 10. Plus the 6 wickets, ER of 7.?? in 24 overs. and a few diving catches YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 06:42, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, that was pretty daft I thought. Raina was the one that influenced the outcome of IPL3 and if you saw the presentation ceremony, pretty much everyone was looking at Raina when it was being awarded. That's what comes of Gavaskar and Shastri being on the jury. Don't know if you saw the MI vs RCB game, when Tendulkar "caught" Dravid and Dravid refused to walk, Gavaskar was questioning Dravid's judgment, sportsmanship etc etc and how he can doubt the word of Tendulkar and all that. Then 3rd umpire ruled in Dravid's favor and not so much as "ok, Dravid seems to have been right" or something. —SpacemanSpiff 07:57, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Didn't watch the prez as I knew I would have to look at Modi's evil grin for another hour and an egotistical brag. Did see the SF but have the commentary really low because it's worthless anyway. Saw Kohli stand his ground after Rayudu caught him at knee height, which was funnier YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 02:29, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
I normally have the commentary on low too, but missed this time. The "extra" shows was ridiculous, don't know where they came up with such people, and I thought Mandira Bedi was bad. —SpacemanSpiff 03:15, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Money woes, or technical difficulties?

"Revert to the revision prior to revision $1 dated $2 by $3 using popups"? It's hard to understand what you did in this revision without poring through the markup. Perhaps your tool is broken. (I thought Spaceman Spiff owned a cat, not a dog.) Yappy2bhere (talk) 21:27, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, something goofy with popups on my machine, I stop using when I remember that. —SpacemanSpiff 03:15, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

WP:AWB usage

Hi Spaceman, I need help in using WP:AWB. I have installed AWB after requesting to use. I would like to know if it is possible to correct redirects using AWB. I have done the following for correcting the redirect pages.

  1. Selected what redirects here in Source
  2. Entered Padmanabhaswamy temple
  3. Clicked on Make list
  4. Selected Start tab and clicked on Start.

In the status bar of the window, Skipped: 8. But the changes are not reflected. Should I click on Save? Pls help. I have checked with Abecedare and he directed me to you. Pls help.Thaejas (talk) 05:30, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Don't bother correcting redirects, if you need a new one, just create it. Otherwise, a bot will come by and fix double redirects. It's been a while since I used AWB and don't have it installed anymore, so if you need any help on that I'd suggest checking on the AWB discussion board or asking User:CarTick or User:Shreevatsa who are more recent users. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 05:54, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Punjab region

Dear SpacemanSpiff, please read the article on the Punjab region before reverting my edits. Perhaps I should mention the word "historically" as an adverb. According to The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company,

A historical region of the northwest Indian subcontinent bounded by the Indus and Yamuna rivers. It was a center of the prehistoric Indus Valley civilization and after c. 1500 b.c. the site of early Aryan settlements. Muslims occupied the western part of the region by the 8th century, introducing Islam, and although they later conquered the eastern part, Hinduism remained entrenched there. The Moguls brought the region to cultural eminence until their empire declined in the 18th century. The Punjab was controlled by Sikhs from 1799 to 1849, when it was annexed by Great Britain. It was partitioned between India and Pakistan in 1947.

With regards, AnupamTalk 06:53, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but you are misrepresenting the source. Read WP:SYNTH. —SpacemanSpiff 06:55, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
And the parts about the Delhi, Haryana and HP being part of Punjab is mentioned only in the British province area. Either you find a better source, or don't add. I clearly dispute your interpretation of the source, and it looks like I am not the only one, as this has been reverted before too. —SpacemanSpiff 06:59, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
This was hardly a reply to the reference I just provided above which cites a dictionary definition of the historical Punjab region. What else lies from the Indus to the Yamuna rivers if it be not Haryana, Delhi, and Himachal Pradesh, which all have Punjabi as their official state language (along with Hindi). Are you also trying to say that the article on the Punjab region is wrong? Please kindly revert your edits. With regards, AnupamTalk 07:04, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
I have explained myself quite clearly, you are welcome to initiate a discussion on the talk page per WP:BRD and gain consensus for your additions. —SpacemanSpiff 07:05, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Per WP:RS, I will restore the deleted content as you have not given a reply to my queries. Another reputable source, The encyclopedia Americana, Volume 23 states that the Punjab region "extends between the Indus River on the west, in Pakistan, and the Yamuna (Jumna) River on the east, in India." I will post this information on the talk pages of the articles and then reinsert the material at my convenience. With regards, AnupamTalk 07:11, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
That's nonsense, I've given you a reply, you refuse to listen, period. Now you're edit warring. —SpacemanSpiff 07:12, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
I am not edit warring. You reverted my edits despite the fact that I just provided you with two more credible references which discuss the issue as you have requested. Moreover, I stated that I would post the information on the talk pages of the articles, as you requested. Why did you state that my reply was nonsense when I did as you instructed me? Why have you not commented on my references which prove the claim that was inserted into the articles? I look forward to hearing from you soon. With regards, AnupamTalk 07:16, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
(edit conflict)Nonsense because I've clearly explained above and you keep saying I haven't responded. As far as googling five words together and saying they appear on the same page, my comment on WP:SYNTH applies. Like I said, if you have a credible reference that says exactly what you're trying to say, then I'll be fine with the addition, but not something that you interpret the source as saying. As for the edit warring comment, it was targeted at your subsequent revert on one of the three articles. —SpacemanSpiff 07:29, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
I will provide you with a reference that says exactly what I did: The Encyclopaedia of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, which states "In India, ethnic Punjabis can be found across the greater Punjab region which now comprises the states of Punjab, Haryana and Himachal Pradesh and the Union Territories of Chandigarh and Delhi." I hope these posts continue to clear things up for you. In light of the information I have been giving you, could you please kindly revert your edits in good faith? With regards, AnupamTalk 07:34, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Chelo61's block

Hello, I noticed that Chelo61 has made an unblock request. At your convenience, can you please review it? Phearson (talk) 01:02, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

I blocked him, so I shouldn't be reviewing the unblock request. It'll show up in the logs, so someone will review it. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 10:21, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Of dogs and infobox templates

A couple of infobox templates on your user page seem to have been vandalised - I think they're {{User Chennai}} and {{User:UBX/Dog owned-by}}. I'm not too sure when the vandalism occurred (from your user page history), so could you take a look? Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 11:53, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Done. It's a persistent sock master. Let Abecedare or me know if you come across, we deal with it on a daily basis. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 11:58, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

notable?

Hey Spiff, I got a question for you at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iqbal Singh. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 18:12, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Interesting one. I've never heard of this school (I'm not very familiar with law schools), but it's quite easily confused with India's premier law school -- National Law School of India University. The article on the school says it's modeled after the latter and is ranked third in India (which is a pretty significant thing since there are many law schools and legal education is well developed in the country). However, I get this very funny feeling that, the article is confusing a few Iqbal Singhs and combining them to create the profile for one. But on the face of it, if he's a distinguished prof at said school (and the school's website says so), he should pass WP:PROF, but it needs sources (and I haven't the time to look currently, will try in a couple of days). cheers —SpacemanSpiff 18:31, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. I found the directory information which has him as distinguished, so that should be solid. Drmies (talk) 19:02, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
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