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DYK for Great Onyx Cave

Updated DYK query On March 23, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Great Onyx Cave, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Royalbroil 02:31, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Wow, it's been a very long time since there was a Did You Know fact that I actually had known! (At least ones that I didn't work on myself.) When I toured Mammoth Cave, the ranger mentioned that they were other caves in the area that are suspected to be part of that system but have not been explored. Thanks for filling in a missing topic. Royalbroil 02:31, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Images

Hi thanks for your recent work. One suggestion: you might check around before posting images. BiCl3 is incorrect. The German NiI2 image is the hydrate. MoCl5 is probably off too. etc. Best wishes,--Smokefoot (talk) 13:17, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

You might review your other images for factualness as well. Excellent books are available on these topics - Greenwood and Earnshaw, Wiberg. Vanadium(V) oxytrifluoride (not monomer), Silicon tetrabromide (radii messed up), Antimony tribromide probably not right either. And I suspect others are messed up.--Smokefoot (talk) 13:48, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

On Benzo(a)pyrene and Benzopyrene

Hi, if I understand it well these are two different substances, and thus two articles (not about the [a] or (a) difference here). Could you clarify this in the articles, e.g. in the introduction or with a hatnote like {{for|Benzo[a]pyrene|Benzo(a)pyrene}} (in both)? If they are the same, should they not be merged? -DePiep (talk) 12:20, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

These are two different substances; specifically, benzo(a)pyrene is one benzopyrene. (There is also benzo(e)pyrene, which has the benzene ring in a different location.) I will try to make this clearer. Thanks for the advice. shoy (reactions) 18:57, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Would be Good, thank you. -DePiep (talk) 19:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

The Chemistry Star
I just wanted to say thank you for all your great contributions to Wikipedia's chemistry articles! -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:53, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, thank you kindly sir, it's much appreciated. shoy (reactions) 23:58, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Mn(IV)?

My guess is that MnSe2 has the pyrite structure, i.e. Mn(IV) merits checking.--Smokefoot (talk) 00:49, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Ammonium phosphate

Hi. Wanted to drop you a private note to thank you for keeping an eye out for copyright concerns. This one is okay as it copies Wikipedia (and many other free online sources; Philip M. Parker has found quite a profitable way to use us!). When I first encountered that publisher, I also did not realize that they duplicated Wikipedia. I tried to use them as an RS and another contributor pointed it out to me. Anyway, I appreciate your diligence. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:05, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Any easy way to tell which sources do this? Especially on Google Books, where (unfortunately) quite often things like the title/copyright pages are unviewable. shoy (reactions) 18:45, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Icon Publishing Group is the only one that I know of at this point. Any time I see one of theirs (all of which are really Parker), I know we've probably got a Wiki-copy. They show up on the copyright problems board routinely; I'd say we get one every few weeks. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:53, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Wow, that was fast! Thanks for the tip. shoy (reactions) 18:56, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Just happened to check my watchlist at the right time. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:59, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

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Talkback

Hello, Shoy. You have new messages at KuroiShiroi's talk page.
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Re

Fair enough, I will not be making further edits to the article. I'll try to start a discussion on the Talk page. Nirvana888 (talk) 17:24, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

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Aluminium borohydride

Hi. I've simply undeleted the page for now. The deletion was requested by the article's main author J4V4 (talk · contribs) so you should probably contact him to see exactly how this came about. In any case, I'll notify him of the article's restoration. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson (talk) 20:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Hmm... This seems to be part of a wider dispute on "aluminium" vs. "aluminum". On Wikipedia, we just looooooooove arguing about such profound issues. In any case, J4V4 was blocked regarding the whole thing. Not sure what my best course of action is: I guess I'll just contact the blocking administrator Rifleman 82 (talk · contribs) and let him sort it out. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson (talk) 21:04, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. shoy (reactions) 01:17, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Shoy. It never ends, apparently. Somehow, the problematic editor succeeded in his attempt to have the article deleted per G7. Even on purely formal grounds I find this puzzling, since you made a contribution to the article in the form of sources, and he is therefore no longer the "sole contributor". What do you think is the proper way to proceed? Personally, I'm more than a little tempted to simply copy User:J4V4/Aluminium borohydride into article space, but for all I know there may be rules against that. Favonian (talk) 10:53, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
WP:CSD#G7 is "Author requests deletion, if requested in good faith and provided that the page's only substantial content was added by its author." [emphasis added] Therefore, since Shoy didn't make any substantial edits (in fact he/she didn't change article content at all), I was still the only major contributor and therefore my request under G7 was valid.
Also, your attempt to userify and recreate the page won't work because the timestamp shows that my userification was created first, meaning that if you recreate the page the timestamps will confirm that I am still the page author, and that therefore the page can be deleted under G7 once again. --J4\/4 <talk> 16:56, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
I really don't understand why you want to delete this page so badly. It's honestly quite silly. shoy (reactions) 19:36, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
It certainly is. G7 is not a license to exert ownership over articles. Favonian (talk) 21:36, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

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Baeyer's reagent.png

Hi Shoy,

you being the author / owner of above mentioned .png, I'd like to bring to your attention that the reaction shown is incomplete with respect to the products on the Manganese's side

Baeyer's reagent will initially form a manganese-ester that, upon hydrolysis, will generate the (instable) manganate-ion (MnO3^-). This species subsequently undergoes disproportion to MnO2 (brown, solid --> precipitate) and MnO4^2- (blue, soluble)

I feel like you could easily incorporate this by simply adding "+MnO4^2-" to the MnO2 mentioned on the right sides of the equations

thank you for your time and the consideration of this matter

yours

Ingo


P.S.: if you wish to take a look: http://www.chemieunterricht.de/dc2/ch/cht-105.htm (language is German, so sorry, but the drawings tell the story) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.54.71.54 (talk) 17:14, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. The next time I get around to pulling out ChemSketch, I'll fix this. shoy (reactions) 01:46, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

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Aluminium borohydride

Hi Shoy. You have previously been involved in the discussion about the spelling of the name of this article. The user who feels so passionately about the issue has now proposed renaming the article again. The discussion is at Talk:Aluminium borohydride#Requested move. Favonian (talk) 20:00, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Looks like it already got blanked. Hopefully they take the hint this time. shoy (reactions) 20:23, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

RFC

I noticed that you participated in a previous RFC at Wikipedia talk:Notability (criminal acts)/Opinions. I was wondering if you might share your opinion here: RFC: Should Wikipedia:Notability (criminal acts) be merged with Wikipedia:Notability (events) and Wikipedia:Notability (people)? Thanks! Location (talk) 19:25, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

2-Ethyl-1-butanol

Hello. In January you added a citation to a book from the "Webster's Quotations" series published by Icon Group International to this article. Unfortunately, Icon Group International is not a reliable source - their books are computer-generated, with most of the text copied from Wikipedia (most entries have [WP] by them to indicate this). I'm removing a lot of similar references; many other editors have also been deceived by these sources. A similar operation is Alphascript Publishing. Fences&Windows 21:55, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I did not know that, and will keep it in mind for the future. I've replaced that statement with a better sourced one. I guess you're running AWB to find these? Maybe you should create a page with a list of articles if there are a lot, that way more editors can help remove them. Best, shoy (reactions) 00:30, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Good ol' fashioned searching. I don't use AWB. I have about 60 down, 140 to go. Once I am done removing them all and letting people know about this, I'll think how to raise awareness and stop these references being used (an edit filter?), and I'll also go back through at my leisure to improve the sourcing - most of the articles are very sparsely sourced anyway. Thanks for adding a source to replace it. Fences&Windows 00:38, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Unknown book

I saw that you used the Patnaik Pradyo book as reference. Do you have access to that book? There is a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Elements about that book. Thanks--Stone (talk) 16:11, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

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CSD for Chris Phillips (professor)

Hi there, I declined this speedy because although you were quite right that part of it was a copyvio, not all of it was. I have removed the section which was copyvio, which I accept guts the article rather but I have no doubt he meets WP:PROF; in fact I think I've heard of his group (they are working on making stuff invisible!!) Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 16:49, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Seagram's Distillery

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Leonard N. Stern

I noticed you removed the copypaste tag on that article and you mentioning it with an edit summary. I'm quite pleased to find out that you couldn't find any more copyright infringements from the source given, as I was the editor who originally tried to remove the copyrighted text. It was very difficult to find the copyvios as the copyrighted statements were scattered around the article. Anyway, thanks for helping me out. Minimac (talk) 10:16, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome! shoy (reactions) 13:21, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Hexacyclinol

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Thank You

Shoy - I wanted to personally thank you for writing an editor appeal the fundraiser this year. I'm sorry we weren't able to use all of them this year, but I really appreciate you taking the time to write and submit one. Thanks again - Deniz (WMF) (talk) 21:17, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. Glad that everything went so well this year anyways. shoy (reactions) 15:38, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

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Sorry it took so long to get it done. Enjoy Hasteur (talk) 01:14, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

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I'm under the impression that Monatomic gold is a pseudoscientific concept walzing around on the Net either as a marketing term for mongers, or for the conspiration theoretics around David Icke. Maybe a thing to consider? Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 20:13, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

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Hello, I think I found a simple mistake in the structure of the Sulfatide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sulfatide.png


there seems to be missing a double bond in the sphingosine chain. If hydroxyl carbon is number 1, then the double bond in the hydrocarbon chain would be between carbon 2 and 3. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.16.16.13 (talk) 20:39, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

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Brian Anderson (boxer) section blanking

Hi Shoy, this is a very complicated saga which has been discussed at the article's Talk page, my own Talk page and that of editor Martinevans123. In essence, good faith edits I made (and I have freely admitted throughout that they weren't perfect) were blanked by an editor with a username very similar to that of the subject of the article. Later, a second editor - also with a similar user name to that of the subject - turned up and made further edits. Both editors were later revealed as indeed being the subject of the page (he had forgotten his original log-in details apparently). I thought that some sort of consensus had been reached, and I had hoped to revise my edits as per these discussions earlier this week, but unfortunately I haven't been able to find the time for what is likely to be a complicated balancing act, and in any case since it was my edits that are at the core of the dispute I'm probably not the person to do so in any case. (Just for the record, I haven't previously been involved in any WP disputes - and this seems to be a particularly complicated one!) If you have the time and inclination to review the page from an entirely neutral position - or know someone else who might - I would be very grateful for your input! JezGrove (talk) 19:56, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Usually when an IP blanks a section it's vandalism. I should have checked the talk page first. Thanks for letting me know. shoy (reactions) 20:09, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

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Bus ducts Page - your move request to Bus duct

Hi there! I would have called this page bus duct except that this term automatically defaults to the busbar article. There was no separate bus duct article, so I created Bus Ducts. The bus bar article is not the right place to describe bus ducts. A busbar is a component of a bus duct that deserves its own description. Also, not all busbars are enclosed inside of bus ducts. The only way I knew to get around this re-direct is by making this article Bus Ducts. Is there a problem with having it as is? Plural seems not so bad. There ARE different kinds of bus duct, indoor, outdoor, different sizes, aluminium versus copper, sandwich versus separate bars... I figure that the manufacturers will probably chime in and edit now that this is up and we should get some more details. Best regards, --Achim Hering (talk) 02:25, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

@Achim Hering: The template will let an admin know to move the page to bus duct, so that's why I put it there. WP likes to have all of its article titles in the same format. I tried to move it myself, but non-admins aren't allowed to move pages over redirects. Thanks, shoy (reactions) 11:59, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
OK, thanks. Best regards,--Achim Hering (talk) 13:24, 30 September 2015 (UTC)


X-Systems page, delete nomination

Dear Shoy,

As told to our fellow Wikipedian "Crystallizedcarbon".

I currently live in the Netherlands. And what I have to say is the following, the are curruently the only real Dutch smartphone manufacture. I have some friends at the Technical University in Eindhoven (TU/E) and as understood they are currently work together. I think, and what I hear from my friends at the TU, we will hear a lot from them in the future and this company will evolve to a international player.

I have to say, I didnt bought one myself yet. However honestly speaking, I might be interesting in the future. How many Dutch/European brands can you name which are truly designing and creating their own smartphones.

So answering your question, it is the only (durable) smartphone company in the Netherlands. And next to Phonebloks (Dutch idea, also from the area of Eindhoven), they are the only "two" smartphone companies. However, Phonebloks is still an idea (concept). And these guys from X-Systems are already in business and have mass-production of their models.

So due to the respect for them and to give others more insight of their background I created this page.. I hope you recondider your deletion as Sonim Technologies the American compeditor has its page it would be nice to give more information to others about the Dutch/European manufacture of these devices.

Have a great day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesDawn (talk • contribs) 18:00, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

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Know Thyself Page deletion objection

hi Shoy

i've improve the page i'd created Know_Thyself. And i suppose you mark the page as Unsourced, no evidence. Please check the page as i've added sources. waiting for your response. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rupika2303 (talk • contribs) 18:23, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

@Rupika2303: The problem with the sources that you added is that blogs are not what Wikipedia considers to be reliable sources. Typical reliable sources are news organizations and their websites, or other books published by major publishing houses. Do you have any of those that you can add to the article? Otherwise, it will be deleted sooner or later. shoy (reactions) 18:31, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi Shoy got your point. I'll add more sources. But one query, that i've add one source of Google Books. Can this be considered as reliable source or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rupika2303 (talk • contribs) 18:37, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

@Rupika2303:If you're using Google Books just to prove that the book exists, don't bother adding it to the article. What is in question here is whether other organizations have written enough about the book for it to pass our notability guideline for books. However, Google Books can be useful for finding portions of other books that discuss the book, if there are any. shoy (reactions) 18:41, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

K_Satyanarayana_-_Author

Hi Shoy,

Please check the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Satyanarayana_-_Author I have edited this page. I need more directions as this is the first time i am creating a page here. This author is sincerely a respected author in the Kannada Literature. I need to create the page with all the guidelines adhered to. Please review and suggest further edits that are needed. SindhuSagar (talk) 13:49, 26 July 2016 (UTC)SindhuSagarSindhuSagar (talk) 13:49, 26 July 2016 (UTC) SindhuSagar

@SindhuSagar: Right now, I see a couple of problems with the page. First of all, the lead appears to be copied and pasted from [1]. This is a copyright violation and I have removed it from the article, see WP:COPYVIO. The second is that I am not sure that Satyanarayana meets our notability guidelines, specifically the one for authors. The sources that you have provided only appear to show that one of his books was reviewed in The Hindu, I don't see any sources to confirm any of the other biographical information in the article. Where did you get this information? Biographical information must be sourced, per our WP:BLP policy. shoy (reactions) 14:10, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Shoy.

Thanks for the response. Now, I see what the problems would be. There are no pages created for this author in any other published articles neither in Wiki, nor in other sources. Can i get some more time to source all that.These are all available in some of the Kannada language portals.

Will this page be under edit review, for next couple of days? Or will this get deleted?

He has earned quite a few respectable awards and accolades for his contributions to the Kannada literature, and is considered to be the heir to Respected Shri Masti Venkatesh Aiyangar's literary talents.

I need a couple of more day's time to edit and provide the sources. Is this possible? I am a working mother, and i don't get much time to do this.

I want to draw your attention to this English Page which has a couple of information no Dr.Satyanarayana.

Thanks for your time, Sindhu SindhuSagar (talk) 17:36, 26 July 2016 (UTC)SindhusagarSindhuSagar (talk) 17:36, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

@SindhuSagar: I saw the Bangalore Mirror source but that page doesn't include the biographical information either. Right now the page isn't tagged with a deletion notice and I personally don't plan on placing one until you've had some time to improve the page, but other editors may. If Satyanarayana is as famous and well-known an author as the sources that you have provided seem to indicate he is and you have sources for that information, then the page probably won't be deleted. I personally couldn't find any information with a quick google search but I am sure that you would know better where to look. shoy (reactions) 18:47, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi SindhuSagar (talk) 07:40, 28 July 2016 (UTC)ShoySindhuSagar (talk) 07:40, 28 July 2016 (UTC), I am surprised to see that there are not much online references on Dr. Satyanarayana. Here is a link i found that provide some of the information on his biological facts. An article in Times of India.

I have also added the same to his page.

I am an ardent reader of Kannada Literature, and found that our young readers don't know much or have not read much of Satyanaryana. This is the main reason why i am constructing this page. His writings has deeper insights on life via stories of people living around us, and open up broader outlook.

I will find out few more information. Is there a way, if i don't have much information online and in English, that i can furbish Kannada language information? Also are there any other ways that i can provide that information through some authorized persons etc.? let me know.

Warm Regards, Thanks for your time. Sindhu SindhuSagar (talk) 07:40, 28 July 2016 (UTC)SindhusagarSindhuSagar (talk) 07:40, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

@SindhuSagar: Foreign language sources are ok per WP:NONENG although it can be helpful if a translation of the relevant portions of the source are provided. shoy (reactions) 11:59, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

toni aureada

why did you nominate my article toni aureada fix this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Biofrance (talk • contribs) 13:42, 9 August 2016 (UTC)


Regarding speedy deletion

Hi Shoy.

The page Gian kumar and his 3 books Know thyself, The ultimate reality has been considered for speedy deletion. If you see my date of registration, then u will find from when am interested in contributing to Wikipedia, since my friend asked me to create these pages, i have created I don't know their purpose, but my purpose was to create the page.

Please review.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jagadeshanh (talk • contribs) 09:23, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

@Jagadeshanh: Please make these arguments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gian Kumar and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The ultimate reality rather than my talk page and the article talk pages. shoy (reactions) 12:09, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

CorbuleacM

Hi! I've added more reliable sources to Unigma. What do you think? Let me know if you have other suggestions. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by CorbuleacM (talk • contribs) 13:28, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

@CorbuleacM: It looks likely to pass WP:NCORP now, I think. shoy (reactions) 12:10, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

About IntellectEu article

Hi Shoy, thank you for the review. However, I am disappointed that it was deleted due to section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion. The article was created after it had been mentioned at the Hyperledger project page. I do believe that this article will help people, interested in Blochchain, better understand what technologies are used in Hyperledger project and build trust to distributed ledger technology. Do you think it can be restored? If you have any suggestions on how to improve text I would be glad to receive it. Also it would be great to get a copy of an article, as it has been already deleted. Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrii IEU (talk • contribs) 08:44, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

@Andrii IEU: Since it was speedy deleted, it is unlikely to be fit for article space. I would recommend using the articles for creation process in the future, which allows WP editors to see your draft and make suggestions for improvement before it gets moved into article space. I would recommend reading our conflict of interest policy also, since you appear to be employed by IntellectEu. Thanks, shoy (reactions) 12:07, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Can I have the version of article that was deleted, to work on it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrii IEU (talk • contribs) 13:19, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

@Andrii IEU: Ask at WP:REFUND. I'm not an administrator and can't access deleted pages either. shoy (reactions) 13:31, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Hi Shoy, thanks for reviewing the article The Wallpapered Manse, much appreciated.

Coolabahapple (talk) 00:32, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

The Double Alternative

It's not made up by the author. It's copied from this website by copyright.gov. Ayub407talk 17:36, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Ah nevermind, I see why it's tagged under A11. Ayub407talk 17:40, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
It's nonsense either way. shoy (reactions) 17:47, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Talk:James L Barnard CSD R3

Just FYI Shoy, I just deleted the redirect at Talk:James L Barnard as seen here. This noob editor created a BLP, then wrote the text of a new BLP on that talk page, then moved that talk to a new article page, then repeated the process, about eleven times! 220 of Borg 13:47, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

@220 of Borg: I saw that something strange was going on with that editor's contribution history, but I figured the "cleaner" solution would just be to delete the page. It's the same result either way, I suppose. shoy (reactions) 13:50, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
True, if an admin wanders by and happens to zap it I won't care, but I just deleted all the others so finished what I 'started'. I've been chasing this for 90 mins to 2 hours now! (meanwhile the vandals play!)220 of Borg 14:08, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

hi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smiriflores (talk • contribs) 19:43, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
For your Ten years on Wikipedia! 220 of Borg 16:10, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Deprodding of Caternow

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Caternow, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks!

== Regarding Caternow

Kindly remove the 'mark for deletion' on the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ikoroe (talk • contribs) 14:12, 26 August 2016 (UTC)


Seeking advice!

Hi, Shoy! You're very experience in creating wikipedia content, so I was wondering if you could give me pointers to create the Chemyx wikipedia page to make it more relevant to users. I appreciate it!

User:Exhaledeeply —Preceding undated comment added 15:02, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

@Exhaledeeply: WP:Your first article is probably your best bet and describes things in much more detail than I ever could. shoy (reactions) 15:06, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! While that is true, I've combed that article several times and still can't figure out why the page you recommended be deleted should be deleted. I've attempted to make it relevant by linking other pages and showing its importance, etc. There are no biased comments and yet I cannot understand why you believe it should be deleted. Do you mind helping me out? :@Shoy:

exhaledeeply

@Exhaledeeply: Our guideline for articles about businesses is WP:NCORP. Right now, the article doesn't cite any sources (WP:RS) that are not published by the company itself. Wikipedia largely only cares about what independent sources write about a company rather than what a company says about itself. shoy (reactions) 16:48, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Shoy, I responded to your thread: Conflict of interest[edit source] Are you employed by a cybersecurity company or a company being paid to promote one on Wikipedia? shoy (reactions) 20:50, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

The text has been modified to eliminate any and all similarities to the text cited by the copyright alert software. No - there are no vendor names cited on the prospective page. It is a summary designed to inform on the cyber attack vector. Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TechnoChief2011 (talk • contribs)

That wasn't the question that I asked. Even if you scrub all the vendor names off the page, you can still be editing in a way that is driving business to your industry. shoy (reactions) 12:17, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Shoy, the answer to your question is no. Do you work in cyber security? thx tchief — Preceding unsigned comment added by TechnoChief2011 (talk • contribs) 18:15, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Deprodding of Net Timoney

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User group: New Page Reviewr

Hello Shoy.

Based on the patrols you made of new pages during a qualifying period in 2016, your account has been added to the "New page reviewers" user group, allowing you to review new pages and mark them as patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or in some cases, tag them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the New Pages Feed.

New page reviewing is a vital function for policing the quality of the encylopedia, if you have not already done so, you must read the new tutorial at New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the various deletion criteria. If you need more help or wish to discuss the process, please join or start a thread at page reviewer talk.

  • Be nice to new users - they are often not aware of doing anything wrong.
  • You will frequently be asked by users to explain why their page is being deleted - be formal and polite in your approach to them too, even if they are not.
  • Don't review a page if you are not sure what to do. Just leave it for another reviewer.
  • Remember that quality is quintessential to good patrolling. Take your time to patrol each article, there is no rush. Use the message feature and offer basic advice.

The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In case of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, the right can be revoked at any time by an administrator. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:34, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!

Hello, Shoy. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter

Hello Shoy,
Breaking the back of the backlog
We now have 819 New Page Reviewers! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog. Now it's time for action.
Mid July to 01 Oct 2016

If each reviewer does only 10 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work!
Let's get that over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.

Second set of eyes

Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work. Read about it at the new Monitoring the system section in the tutorial.

Getting the tools we need - 2016 WMF Wishlist Survey: Please vote

With some tweaks to their look, and some additional features, Page Curation and New Pages Feed could easily be the best tools for patrollers and reviewers. We've listed most of what what we need at the 2016 WMF Wishlist Survey. Voting starts on 28 November - please turn out to make our bid the Foundation's top priority. Please help also by improving or commenting on our Wishlist entry at the Community Wishlist Survey. Many other important user suggestions are listed at at Page Curation.

Sent to all New Page Reviewers. Discuss this newsletter here. If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself from the mailing list. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:16, 26 November 2016 (UTC) .

BBC 12-hour Editathon - large influx of new pages & drafts expected

New Page Reviewers are asked to be especially on the look out 08:00-20:00 UTC (that's local London time - check your USA and AUS times) on Thursday 8 December for new pages. The BBC together with Wikimedia UK is holding a large 12-hour editathon. Many new articles and drafts are expected. See BBC 100 Women 2016: How to join our edit-a-thon. Follow also on #100womenwiki, and please, don't bite the newbies :) (user:Kudpung for NPR. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:55, 7 December 2016 (UTC))

New Page Review - newsletter #2

Hello Shoy,
Please help reduce the New Page backlog

This is our second request. The backlog is still growing. Your help is needed now - just a few minutes each day.

Getting the tools we need

ONLY TWO DAYS LEFT TO VOTE

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Extended confirmed protection policy RfC

You are receiving this notification because you participated in a past RfC related to the use of extended confirmed protection levels. There is currently a discussion ongoing about two specific use cases of extended confirmed protection. You are invited to participate. ~ Rob13Talk (sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:31, 22 December 2016 (UTC))

New Page Review - newsletter No.2

Hello Shoy,
A HUGE backlog

We now have 819 New Page Reviewers!
Most of us requested the user right at PERM, expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October.

Hitting 17,000 soon

The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. Only 20 reviews a day by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work!
It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to 70,000.

Second set of eyes

Remember that we are the only guardians of quality of new articles, we alone have to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged by non-Reviewer patrollers and that new authors are not being bitten.

Abuse

This is even more important and extra vigilance is required considering Orangemoody, and

  1. this very recent case of paid advertising by a Reviewer resulting in a community ban.
  2. this case in January of paid advertising by a Reviewer, also resulting in a community ban.
  3. This Reviewer is indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry.

Coordinator election

Kudpung is stepping down after 6 years as unofficial coordinator of New Page Patrolling/Reviewing. There is enough work for two people and two coords are now required. Details are at NPR Coordinators; nominate someone or nominate yourself. Date for the actual suffrage will be published later.

Discuss this newsletter here. If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself from the mailing list MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:11, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review-Patrolling: Coordinator elections

Your last chance to nominate yourself or any New Page Reviewer, See Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Coordination. Elections begin Monday 20 February 23:59 UTC. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:17, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter No.3

Hello Shoy,

Voting for coordinators has now begun HERE and will continue through/to 23:59 UTC Monday 06 March. Please be sure to vote. Any registered, confirmed editor can vote. Nominations are now closed.

Still a MASSIVE backlog

We now have 819 New Page Reviewers but despite numerous appeals for help, the backlog has NOT been significantly reduced.
If you asked for the New Page Reviewer right, please consider investing a bit of time - every little helps preventing spam and trash entering the mainspace and Google when the 'NO_INDEX' tags expire.

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ITN recognition for George Andrew Olah

On 11 March 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article George Andrew Olah, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 01:05, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - Newsletter No.4

Hello Shoy,

Since rolling out the right in November, just 6 months ago, we now have 819 reviewers, but the backlog is still mysteriously growing fast. If every reviewer did just 55 reviews, the 22,000 backlog would be gone, in a flash, schwoop, just like that!

But do remember: Rather than speed, quality and depth of patrolling and the use of correct CSD criteria are essential to good reviewing. Do not over-tag. Make use of the message feature to let the creator know about your maintenance tags. See the tutorial again HERE. Get help HERE.

Stay up to date with recent new page developments and have your say, read THIS PAGE.

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New Page Reviewer Newsletter

Hello Shoy, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update:

  • The new page backlog is currently at 18,511 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a a day.
  • Some editors are committing to work specifically on patrolling new pages on 15 July. If you have not reviewed new pages in a while, this might be a good time to be involved. Please remember that quality of patrolling is more important than quantity, that the speedy deletion criteria should be followed strictly, and that ovetagging for minor issues should be avoided.

Technology update:

  • Several requests have been put into Phabractor to increase usability of the New Pages Feed and the Page Curation toolbar. For more details or to suggest improvements go to Wikipedia:Page Curation/Suggested improvements
  • The tutorial has been updated to include links to the following useful userscripts. If you were not aware of them, they could be useful in your efforts reviewing new pages:

General project update:

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New Page Reviewer Newsletter

Hello Shoy, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update:

  • The new page backlog is currently at 16,991 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a a day.

Technology update:

  • Rentier has created a NPP browser in WMF Labs that allows you to search new unreviewed pages using keywords and categories.

General project update:

  • The Wikimedia Foundation Community Tech team is working with the community to implement the autoconfirmed article creation trial. The trial is currently set to start on 7 September 2017, pending final approval of the technical features.
  • Please remember to focus on the quality of review: correct tagging of articles and not tagbombing are important. Searching for potential copyright violations is also important, and it can be aided by Earwig's Copyvio Detector, which can be added to your toolbar for ease of use with this user script.
  • To keep up with the latest conversation on New Pages Patrol or to ask questions, you can go to Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers and add it to your watchlist.

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Andresen's acid

New article, Momme Andresen, which picked up your link from User:Shoy/List of chemical compounds named after people. This citation says it's 1-hydroxynaphthalene-3,8-disulphonic acid, not 3-amino-1,6-naphthalenedisulfonic acid. See also US 405,938. Which is right? NO WAY am I going to try to replicate his preparation - he lost me at "add 100kg of fuming sulphuric"... Narky Blert (talk) 02:34, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

@Narky Blert: To be honest I'm not sure. I copied most of that article from a list online in hopes of creating a new article but I just don't have time to work on it any more. I didn't look through the list to see if the names were accurate or not. shoy (reactions) 14:33, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Cambridge Investment Research

Please elaborate on what exact core depth it is missing to help me improve the article Also the article is well sourced for such a small article.As I said in my creation summary "the article is not done yet". The subject is definietly notable and I will look into finding more sources. I just created the aricle so you need to give more time.

Thanks mate. WikiEditCrunch (talk) 14:24, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

@WikiEditCrunch: If you need more time to create an article, then I would recommend creating it in a user sandbox or in draft space. What is missing is significant, in-depth coverage of the company in reliable sources, for example profiles of the company in major magazines or newspapers. You need to show that the company is WP:N by Wikipedia standards, not simply that it exists. Press releases or similar coverage is not enough. shoy (reactions) 14:32, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

I agree on the core depth with you.But sources are there.If you would take a look at some articles in the List of asset management firms some articles are poorly sourced but not put up for deletion.This article is highly notable. Some are even much shorter.Im going to make some edits.Then please check out the page.

Cheers! WikiEditCrunch (talk) 14:37, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Unfortunately that's all WP:OTHERSTUFF. If you think those articles are poorly sourced then feel free to nominate them for deletion. shoy (reactions) 14:40, 25 August 2017 (UTC)


Alright so I added a new section and dozens of new independent sources. Also how is a company with billions of dollars under management not notable? Please take a look at the article now.I hope you will consider the article now as acceptable.

Cheers. WikiEditCrunch (talk) 15:01, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

All of the sources that you added are press releases, which means they aren't independent of the company, so they all fail WP:CORPDEPTH. Wikipedia doesn't care how much money a company has, see WP:NCORP ("No company or organization is considered inherently notable. No organization is exempt from this requirement..."). If you have any significant, independent coverage of the company to add then please do so, otherwise I am going to send it to WP:AFD. shoy (reactions) 15:09, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Look closer.The article includes refs from highly reliable sources such as Bloomberg, NASDAQ, MarketWatch and the SEC.

If you are not familiar with reliable sources on this topic then you are probably not the right person to conclude what falls under the notability requirements.I will add more sources to ensure the article fits certain requirements. You may also contribute in helping me mate.

Cheers. WikiEditCrunch (talk) 15:12, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

The Bloomberg "source" is a basic information page. Every company has one. The NASDAQ "source" is just a portfolio listing. Same thing. The Marketwatch source isn't coverage of the company at all, it just happens to be written by one of their CFPs, so it's not independent in any case. I assure you that I am familiar with reliable sources, and it takes more than just having a directory page on a website. If Bloomberg Businessweek wrote a full-length article about Cambridge then it would be a different story, but that's not the case here. shoy (reactions) 15:22, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
Also, I did look for additional sources (as required by WP:BEFORE), and all I could find was press releases, which don't help. shoy (reactions) 15:23, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

I really do not think you need a full page article.That is definietly not a requirement in the WP:ORG. My sources also include news articles which are relevant to WP:ORG and finance related subjects. What im saying is I do not think you know enough about reliable sources in context to investment to decide on this matter.Ill add some more sources. I seriously think you can help me by adding sources.Just simply saying that it should be deleted and not helping is not useful to anyone.

Cheers! WikiEditCrunch (talk) 15:27, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer Newsletter

Hello Shoy, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update:

  • The new page backlog is currently at 14304 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a day.
  • Currently there are 532 pages in the backlog that were created by non-autoconfirmed users before WP:ACTRIAL. The NPP project is undertaking a drive to clear these pages from the backlog before they hit the 90 day Google index point. Please consider reviewing a few today!

Technology update:

  • The Wikimedia Foundation is currently working on creating a new filter for page curation that will allow new page patrollers to filter by extended confirmed status. For more information see: T175225

General project update:

  • On 14 September 2017 the English Wikipedia began the autoconfirmed article creation trial. For a six month period, creation of articles in the mainspace of the English Wikipedia will be restricted to users with autoconfirmed status. New users who attempt article creation will now be redirected to a newly designed landing page.
  • Before clicking on a reference or external link while reviewing a page, please be careful that the site looks trustworthy. If you have a question about the safety of clicking on a link, it is better not to click on it.
  • To keep up with the latest conversation on New Pages Patrol or to ask questions, you can go to Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers and add it to your watchlist.

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Mass reverting

Hello. Please be careful with what you revert en masse, as you did here. My fix was completely necessary, which was redone after your edit. — Wyliepedia 14:57, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

I know, I redid it myself. shoy (reactions) 14:58, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer Newsletter

Hello Shoy, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update:

  • The new page backlog is currently at 12,878 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a day.
  • We have successfully cleared the backlog of pages created by non-confirmed accounts before ACTRIAL. Thank you to everyone who participated in that drive.

Technology update:

  • Primefac has created a script that will assist in requesting revision deletion for copyright violations that are often found in new pages. For more information see User:Primefac/revdel.

General project update:

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Venture Forth (company) issue

I found reliable sources about the person who owned this company with Variety. It is important. Why did you still denied it? Evil Idiot 17:51, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

@Evil Idiot: You reverted to a version of the article which was previously deleted by this AFD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Venture Forth. No new sources were added to the article that I could see. shoy (reactions) 18:03, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer Newsletter

Hello Shoy, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update:

  • The new page backlog is currently at 12713 pages. Please consider reviewing even just a few pages each day! If everyone helps out, it will really put a dent in the backlog.
  • Currently the backlog stretches back to March and some pages in the backlog have passed the 90 day Google index point. Please consider reviewing some of them!

Outreach and Invitations:

  • If you know other editors with a good understanding of Wikipedia policy, invite them to join NPP by dropping the invitation template on their talk page with: {{subst:NPR invite}}. Adding more qualified reviewers will help with keeping the backlog manageable.

New Year New Page Review Drive

  • A backlog drive is planned for the start of the year, beginning on January 1st and running until the end of the month. Unique prizes will be given in tiers for both the total number of reviews made, as well as the longest 'streak' maintained.
  • Note: quality reviewing is extremely important, please do not sacrifice quality for quantity.

General project update:

  • ACTRIAL has resulted in a significant increase in the quality of new submissions, with noticeably fewer CSD, PROD, and BLPPROD candidates in the new page feed. However, the majority of the backlog still dates back to before ACTRIAL started, so consider reviewing articles from the middle or back of the backlog.
  • The NPP Browser can help you quickly find articles with topics that you prefer to review from within the backlog.
  • To keep up with the latest conversation on New Pages Patrol or to ask questions, you can go to Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers and add it to your watchlist.

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New Years new page backlog drive

Hello Shoy, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Announcing the NPP New Year Backlog Drive!

We have done amazing work so far in December to reduce the New Pages Feed backlog by over 3000 articles! Now is the time to capitalise on our momentum and help eliminate the backlog!

The backlog drive will begin on January 1st and run until January 29th. Prize tiers and other info can be found HERE.

Awards will be given in tiers in two categories:

  • The total number of reviews completed for the month.
  • The minimum weekly total maintained for all four weeks of the backlog drive.

NOTE: It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing. Despite our goal of reducing the backlog as much as possible, please do not rush while reviewing.

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New Page Reviewer Newsletter

Hello Shoy, thank you for your efforts in reviewing new pages!
The NPP backlog at the end of the drive with the number of unreviewed articles by creation date. Red is older than 90 days, orange is between 90 and 30 days old, and green is younger than 30 days.

Backlog update:

  • The new page backlog is currently at 3819 unreviewed articles, with a further 6660 unreviewed redirects.
  • We are very close to eliminating the backlog completely; please help by reviewing a few extra articles each day!

New Year Backlog Drive results:

  • We made massive progress during the recent four weeks of the NPP Backlog Drive, during which the backlog reduced by nearly six thousand articles and the length of the backlog by almost 3 months!

General project update:

  • ACTRIAL will end it's initial phase on the 14th of March. Our goal is to reduce the backlog significantly below the 90 day index point by the 14th of March. Please consider helping with this goal by reviewing a few additional pages a day.
  • Reviewing redirects is an important and necessary part of New Page Patrol. Please read the guideline on appropriate redirects for advice on reviewing redirects. Inappropriate redirects can be re-targeted or nominated for deletion at RfD.

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A page you started (Hydration number) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating Hydration number, Shoy!

Wikipedia editor Fiachra10003 just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

Very interesting article.

To reply, leave a comment on Fiachra10003's talk page.

Learn more about page curation.

Fiachra10003 (talk) 16:35, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

@Fiachra10003: Thanks, but the actual text was written by User talk:2607:8400:2EFF:6:0:0:0:11E. I just created the article as a redirect. shoy (reactions) 18:04, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

New Page Review Newsletter No.10

Hello Shoy, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
Notability
General notability guideline
Subject-specific guidelines
See also

ACTRIAL:

  • ACTRIAL's six month experiment restricting new page creation to (auto)confirmed users ended on 14 March. As expected, a greatly increased number of unsuitable articles and candidates for deletion are showing up in the feed again, and the backlog has since increased already by ~30%. Please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day.

Paid editing

  • Now that ACTRIAL is inoperative pending discussion, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary.

Subject-specific notability guidelines

Nominate competent users for Autopatrolled

  • While patrolling articles, if you find an editor that is particularly competent at creating quality new articles, and that user has created more than 25 articles (rather than stubs), consider nominating them for the 'Autopatrolled' user right HERE.

News

  • The next issue Wikipedia's newspaper The Signpost has now been published after a long delay. There are some articles in it, including ACTRIAL wrap-up that will be of special interest to New Page Reviewers. Don't hesitate to contribute to the comments sections. The Signpost is one of the best ways to stay up date with news and new developments - please consider subscribing to it. All editors of Wikipedia and associated projects are welcome to submit articles on any topic for consideration by the The Signpost's editorial team for the next issue.
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NPR Newsletter No.11 25 May 2018

Hello Shoy, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
Notability
General notability guideline
Subject-specific guidelines
See also

ACTRIAL:

  • WP:ACREQ has been implemented. The flow at the feed has dropped back to the levels during the trial. However, the backlog is on the rise again so please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day; a backlog approaching 5,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Deletion tags

  • Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders. They require your further verification.

Backlog drive:

  • A backlog drive will take place from 10 through 20 June. Check out our talk page at WT:NPR for more details. NOTE: It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing. Despite our goal of reducing the backlog as much as possible, please do not rush while reviewing.

Editathons

  • There will be a large increase in the number of editathons in June. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.

Paid editing - new policy

  • Now that ACTRIAL is ACREQ, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. There is a new global WMF policy that requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.

Subject-specific notability guidelines

  • The box at the right contains each of the subject-specific notability guidelines, please review any that are relevant BEFORE nominating an article for deletion.
  • Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves with the new version of the notability guidelines for organisations and companies.

Not English

  • A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, tag as required, then move to draft if they do have potential.

News

  • Development is underway by the WMF on upgrades to the New Pages Feed, in particular ORES features that will help to identify COPYVIOs, and more granular options for selecting articles to review.
  • The next issue of The Signpost has been published. The newspaper is one of the best ways to stay up to date with news and new developments. between our newsletters.
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NPP Backlog Elimination Drive

Hello Shoy, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

We can see the light at the end of the tunnel: there are currently 2900 unreviewed articles, and 4000 unreviewed redirects.

Announcing the Backlog Elimination Drive!

  • As a final push, we have decided to run a backlog elimination drive from the 20th to the 30th of June.
  • Reviewers who review at least 50 articles or redirects will receive a Special Edition NPP Barnstar: Special Edition New Page Patroller's Barnstar. Those who review 100, 250, 500, or 1000 pages will also receive tiered awards: 100 review coin, 250 review coin, 500 review coin, 1000 review certificate.
  • Please do not be hasty, take your time and fully review each page. It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing.

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ITN recognition for Koko (gorilla)

On 21 June 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Koko (gorilla), which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Ad Orientem (talk) 22:32, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 29 June 2018

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NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months. (Purge)

Hello Shoy, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

June backlog drive

Overall the June backlog drive was a success, reducing the last 3,000 or so to below 500. However, as expected, 90% of the patrolling was done by less than 10% of reviewers.
Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.

New technology, new rules
  • New features are shortly going to be added to the Special:NewPagesFeed which include a list of drafts for review, OTRS flags for COPYVIO, and more granular filter preferences. More details can be found at this page.
  • Probationary permissions: Now that PERM has been configured to allow expiry dates to all minor user rights, new NPR flag holders may sometimes be limited in the first instance to 6 months during which their work will be assessed for both quality and quantity of their reviews. This will allow admins to accord the right in borderline cases rather than make a flat out rejection.
  • Current reviewers who have had the flag for longer than 6 months but have not used the permissions since they were granted will have the flag removed, but may still request to have it granted again in the future, subject to the same probationary period, if they wish to become an active reviewer.
Editathons
  • Editathons will continue through August. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.
The Signpost
  • The next issue of the monthly magazine will be out soon. The newspaper is an excellent way to stay up to date with news and new developments between our newsletters. If you have special messages to be published, or if you would like to submit an article (one about NPR perhaps?), don't hesitate to contact the editorial team here.

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The Signpost: 31 July 2018

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DYK for Fisher Ridge Cave System

On 11 August 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fisher Ridge Cave System, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Fisher Ridge Cave System is the fifth-longest cave in the United States and one of the longest in the world? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fisher Ridge Cave System. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Fisher Ridge Cave System), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018

Hello Shoy, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.

Project news
As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.
Other
Moving to Draft and Page Mover
  • Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
  • If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
  • Articles that have been created in contravention of our paid-editing-requirements or written from a blatant NPOV perspective, or by authors with a clear COI might also be draftified at discretion.
  • The best tool for draftification is User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js(info). Kindly adapt the text in the dialogue-pop-up as necessary (the default can also be changed like this). Note that if you do not have the Page Mover userright, the redirect from main will be automatically tagged as CSD R2, but in some cases it might be better to make this a redirect to a different page instead.
  • The Page Mover userright can be useful for New Page Reviewers; occasionally page swapping is needed during NPR activities, and it helps avoid excessive R2 nominations which must be processed by admins. Note that the Page Mover userright has higher requirements than the NPR userright, and is generally given to users active at Requested Moves. Only reviewers who are very experienced and are also very active reviewers are likely to be granted it solely for NPP activities.
List of other useful scripts for New Page Reviewing

  • Twinkle provides a lot of the same functionality as the page curation tools, and some reviewers prefer to use the Twinkle tools for some/all tasks. It can be activated simply in the gadgets section of 'preferences'. There are also a lot of options available at the Twinkle preferences panel after you install the gadget.
  • In terms of other gadgets for NPR, HotCat is worth turning on. It allows you to easily add, remove, and change categories on a page, with name suggestions.
  • MoreMenu also adds a bunch of very useful links for diagnosing and fixing page issues.
  • User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js(info): Installing scripts doesn't have to be complicated. Go to your common.js and copy importScript( 'User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js' ); into an empty line, now you can install all other scripts with the click of a button from the script page! (Note you need to be at the ".js" page for the script for the install button to appear, not the information page)
  • User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js(info): Creates a scrolling new pages list at the left side of the page. You can change the number of pages shown by adding the following to the next line on your common.js page (immediately after the line importing this script): npp_num_pages=20; (Recommended 20, but you can use any number from 1 to 50).
  • User:Primefac/revdel.js(info): Is requesting revdel complicated and time consuming? This script helps simplify the process. Just have the Copyvio source URL and go to the history page and collect your diff IDs and you can drop them into the script Popups and it will create a revdel request for you.
  • User:Lourdes/PageCuration.js(info): Creates a "Page Curation" link to Special:NewPagesFeed up near your sandbox link.
  • User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/deletionFinder.js: Creates links next to the title of each page which show up if it has been previously deleted or nominated for deletion.
  • User:Evad37/rater.js(info): A fantastic tool for adding WikiProject templates to article talk pages. If you add: rater_autostartNamespaces = 0; to the next line on your common.js, the prompt will pop up automatically if a page has no Wikiproject templates on the talk page (note: this can be a bit annoying if you review redirects or dab pages commonly).

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Trollbeads

You rejected trollbeads for not having 3rd party references, please indicate which are not appropriate and why you rejected. This is a valid company which has a history in the industry, thus qualifying an encyclopedia entry? Please respond.

br — Preceding unsigned comment added by LisaLovstrom90 (talk • contribs) 19:30, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Of the sources in your draft, the only one I would consider a reliable source would be #3, the book. Per our notability guidelines, you must have multiple, independent sources to establish notability. References to the company's website are not independent, and references to blog sites are not reliable since there is no guarantee of editorial control or fact checking.
Additionally, the tone of your draft is promotional, and it looks like you have made several attempts to create this article. Do you have a WP:COI with regards to this company? If so, you must disclose that fact, and you should not be editing a page about them at all. shoy (reactions) 21:04, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 1 October 2018

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My page

Thank you very much for reviewing Chengyu (disambiguation). Did I do a good job creating this page? Is there anything that I forgot? Anonymuss User (talk) 14:56, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

CNKI Journal Translation Project

Thank you for viewing this page, I made some edit today, please check it again. Thanks for your advice in advance. --Anqing Hu (talk) 09:41, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello Shoy, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

Backlog

As of 21 October 2018, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.

Community Wishlist Proposal
Project updates
  • ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
  • There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.
New scripts

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Discussion about removing works from Christine Jacobs-Wagner article

Dear Shoy, I am new so I can't claim to be too knowledgeable, but I'm specializing in women in science articles and quite a few I've read do have lists of works, not the hundreds they've written, but a few of the most prominent discoveries. Also, when taking a WikiEd fellows class for content developers recently, my content teacher suggested adding a short list of works to a bio I was working on. A CV would be out of the question for Jacobs-Wagner since she has written over a hundred articles. Would you feel that I could re-add the few I'd selected to put in before? thanks, LLMHoopes LLMHoopes (talk) 19:00, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

LLMHoopes@ I've had a chance to look at the article some more, and look around at some other articles and I see that you're correct. I was too hasty in removing them. I've cleaned up the list and put it back, please accept that as an apology. shoy (reactions) 20:42, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

GEET Engine

hai, my id is WilliamsS.wu. i creat a article that name is GEET Engine. you say that is unrealiable. i don't understand that why is unrealiable. all of information i get from internet. this technology inverntor share his konwledge, and i sorted out his content and uploaded it to wikipedia. is this an unrealiable sourece? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WilliamsS.wu (talk • contribs)

Replied at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GEET Engine‎‎. shoy (reactions) 20:43, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 October 2018

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ITN recognition for Mario Segale

On 2 November 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Mario Segale, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Black Kite (talk) 17:29, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Genesis Health Clubs

It's not really relevant to the deletion discussion, but FYI. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:52, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello Shoy,

Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW
  • Community Wishlist Voting takes place 16 to 30 November for the Page Curation and New Pages Feed improvements, and other software requests. The NPP community is hoping for a good turnout in support of the requests to Santa for the tools we need. This is very important as we have been asking the Foundation for these upgrades for 4 years.
If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.
We are counting on significant support not only from our own ranks, but from everyone who is concerned with maintaining a Wikipedia that is free of vandalism, promotion, flagrant financial exploitation and other pollution.
With all 650 reviewers voting for these urgently needed improvements, our requests would be unlikely to fail. See also The Signpost Special report: 'NPP: This could be heaven or this could be hell for new users – and for the reviewers', and if you are not sure what the wish list is all about, take a sneak peek at an article in this month's upcoming issue of The Signpost which unfortunately due to staff holidays and an impending US holiday will probably not be published until after voting has closed.

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Chental-Song Bembry Page Edits

Hello Shoy,

My name is Chental-Song Bembry. On November 13, 2018, I noticed that the user LingLass created a Wikipedia article about me but left out several significant articles that other news organizations have published about me in the past. Since discovering my article, I created a Wikipedia account for the purposes of adding these other credible articles to my Wikipedia article. Please do not delete my article. I did not create this Wikipedia article about myself -- the user LingLass did. I am new to Wikipedia and did not understand the functionalities of the Talk Page. In the future, I will propose additional changes via the Talk Page. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chentalsong (talk • contribs) 19:05, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

@Chentalsong: Thank you for understanding. Someone will be happy to help you if you propose changes on the talk pages of the articles you wish to improve. shoy (reactions) 19:15, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 1 December 2018

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Bryce Harris

Hi, I had a question about the changes to the article. I responded on my talk page, if you want to keep things all in one place. Thanks. BryceHarris (talk) 21:50, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Meprolight

I saw your post at WP:COIN, and I have opened a case at WP:SPI... Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/MeproUS. If it's not a sockpuppet then I'm sure it's WP:MEAT, given that the second account was created shortly after the undisclosed paid editing warnings on the first account. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:44, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018

Hello Shoy,

Reviewer of the Year

This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.

Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

See also the list of top 100 reviewers.

Less good news, and an appeal for some help

The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.


Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019

At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3 December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.


Training video

Due to a number of changes having been made to the feed since this three-minute video was created, we have been asked by the WMF for feedback on the video with a view to getting it brought up to date to reflect the new features of the system. Please leave your comments here, particularly mentioning how helpful you find it for new reviewers.

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The Signpost: 24 December 2018

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Moved from Status talk page

Hi Shoy.

Thank you for your message. I am a new contributor to Wikipedia though I have used it for sometime. Before editing other pages I wanted to create one for myself. So much happens in our community but few know of the rich history of multiple businesses quietly helping foster its growth. I thought to start with Sincron simply because I learned of their unpublicized work with various social service organizations (i.e. at risk youth) in Vancouver and they were not listed. I learned to create a page, edit a page and add an infobox. My goal was to add material in a generic historical manner using a template used by other organizations.

The same goes for other organizations in our local Chambers of Commerce and Boards of Trade whose contributions have helped build our libraries and schools and fund our parks. I hope to change that via Wikipedia so there is a richer history of local content captured. In fact my local Chamber of Commerce here in Coquitlam, BC (The Tri-Cities Chamber of Comemrce) is forty years old and there is no record of it in Wikipedia despite it's deep history influencing key moments in Canadian, provincial and local politics!

As for Sincron I gather the only way to acknowledge their work would be to get a direct quote from those in the social services industry, but given the wikipedia rules I think it could come across as too promotional.

Luke

@LukeNacinelli: If you are not directly connected with the company then feel free to ignore my message. As it stands, the article reads as extremely promotional in tone with lots of external links, which I frequently see when employees or PR firms are told to create an article for their company or product. I see that the draft has been declined, I would look at the reviewer's notes and make another attempt. It is critical that independent, third-party reliable sources form the core of the article, or else the draft will never be approved, no matter how well it is written. I've added a collection of useful links to your talk page, good luck. shoy (reactions) 20:30, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
@Shoy: Hi Shoy. I went back over the information and added a number of third party links as per your suggestions. This is a great exercise in academic integrity. Getting better! Funny that you mentioned it was promotional in tone when I was trying to be more historical in tone keeping to the main information. In other words using the same language and tone used on other published pages. Once successful I'm going to take a crack at publishing information on important local entities not listed Luke (reactions)

COIN discussion

Hi Shoy. Thanks for starting a discussion at COIN. Please remember to notify editors of discussions about them. {{COIN-notice}} is available for this purpose, and similar templates are available for other noticeboards. For other discussions, just leave them a similar note. Thanks. --Ronz (talk) 20:24, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry. I knew that but must have forgotten to do it this time. Thanks for taking care of it for me. shoy (reactions) 20:45, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Vaginal Steaming

— Hi Shoy! I'm just learning how all of this works. I am happy to discuss edits so that they are fair and balanced. I feel strongly that the current content is extraordinarily biased, painting vaginal steaming in a very negative light. As someone who has benefitted greatly from this practice, I would like for balanced information to be shared IN ADDITION to the laughter and criticism. The current version displays information from several, very biased pop-culture articles and I would like to balance those with some sources who have dedicated their lives to understanding how the practice works. Can I try again? SBrashear (talk) 22:02, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

It looks like you've gotten some good advice at Talk:Vaginal_steaming. Thanks for engaging rather than continuing to revert. shoy (reactions) 19:50, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 January 2019

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Article Proof

Hello Shoy, Just received a message from you about my recent contributions to my company page. Would you mind proofing the changes I submitted to validate and approve them? Here is my draft article (reference) [1] 

DanielleNeal2 (talk) 21:50, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
@DanielleNeal2: I notice that someone (not me) has already tagged your draft article for speedy deletion as promotional. You seem to have a fundamental understanding of what Wikipedia is or what it is about. It is an encyclopedia, which has neutrally-written, factual articles about companies. It is not a place for EmployBridge to write grandiose, public relations style text about itself to improve its web image. If you genuinely care about updating the article, you need to work on updating the article with short, fact-based sentences, preferably sourced to reliable, independent sources. shoy (reactions) 21:57, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

@Shoy:I've edited the text and added many reference links to back up the facts mentioned in the article. I am in no way meaning to write in a grandiose, public relations style text. Please let me know what else you think needs to happen for this article to go through. Thanks! DanielleNeal2 (talk) 22:21, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

@DanielleNeal2: The article text looks better, but I am concerned about your sources. In general, Wikipedia doesn't care what companies write about themselves, so the company's own website and links to press releases written by the company make poor sources. I would work on improving the sources in the original article. shoy (reactions) 13:33, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

@Shoy: I have removed the Press Releases and direct company links from the article and updated with sources from original articles. DanielleNeal2 (talk) 20:21, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 February 2019

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Operation Smile

Shoy, I understand the rules of the NPOV among Wikipedia, which is why I have created this account as an employee with Operation Smile. I have been open and honest about my COI regarding the Wikipedia page. But, my edits have been strictly from third party resources to ensure my NPOV when updating information. HenryOS2019 (talk) 16:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. shoy (reactions) 16:32, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

A Slippery Concept

In the relevant philosophy of religion class, Wittgenstein's "forms of life" was slippery enough of a concept that when someone asked the respected professor for an example of forms of life, it was a good five minutes before the professor was able to articulate a shift between two forms of life. AND the Wikipedia page for "forms of life" has no examples of what, concretely, what sort of thing a form of life might be.

I think that https://cjshayward.com/forms-of-life offers a service to the reader on Wittgenstein who has heard "forms of life" in that it concretely contrasts multiple forms of life. The posting is of necessity slippery, but I would suggest that forms of life is significantly improved to a work dealing with multiple forms of life. Now forms of life does not give any examples; linking to a concise treatment articulating multiple forms of life is a value add. CJSHayward (talk) 21:50, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

@CJSHayward: Linking to your own website is promotional editing, and unless you are a widely-respected expert in this field, your blog is not a reliable source anyways. shoy (reactions) 13:32, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Hapus

Hapus :-( yf sws as vsias--AdusNow (talk) 14:18, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

MNC Vision Manda 1993 --AdusNow (talk) 14:27, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

You are edit warring, please stop. I can only communicate in English. If English isn't your first language, then please find a Wikipedia in your language where you can contribute. shoy (reactions) 14:28, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Cthulhu

I am reaching out on discord finding servers that are Cthulhu based as it fits this wiki, the one listed I found is a large resource for Cthulhu knowledge. The Server is not H.P. Lovecraft and only focuses on Cthulhu.I apologize for not leaving a message sooner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CultOfCthulhu (talk • contribs) 14:55, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

This is an encyclopedia, not a place to add random links. See the external link policy. shoy (reactions) 14:57, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Nick Ahlmark". Thank you. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:40, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.17

Hello Shoy,

News
Discussions of interest
  • Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
  • {{db-blankdraft}} was merged into G13 (Discussion)
  • A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
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Rodney Howard-Browne Page changes

I recently made changes to the Rodney Howard-Browne page because of errors in his bio and what branch of Christianity he represents. I cited all my changes through references from www.revival.com Dr's Rodney and Adonica Howard-Browne ministry website the best representation of his beliefs and practices are from the source so it's not "hear say" or peoples' opinions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispina89 (talk • contribs) 20:10, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

First of all, as noted on your talk page, it was a copyright violation. Secondly, you removed content from third-party reliable sources and replaced it with promotional text. Wikipedia adheres to a neutral point of view and in general doesn't care about what subjects write about themselves. If you would like to suggest constructive factual edits, please use the article's talk page. shoy (reactions) 20:19, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Pinging @Chrispina89: shoy (reactions) 20:21, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

thanks your greeting

I found the article of Jay Chou had some mistakes about his nationality, so I did some corrections.but I'm not familiar with edit system, so I repeated couple times,your word about I was nationalist and starting a edit-warring is ridiculous.I think you should understand some common sense. Let me tell you some facts about Taiwan, as well-konw,it's a part of China,executing some special policy.It is a common fact that Taiwan isn't a country but a province of China.you can't say Taiwan is a country just as I can't say your leg is a human. I also found the article "Taiwan" is full of mistakes.but I can't edit right now, may be you can help me ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neobridge (talk • contribs) 14:36, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Without expressing an opinion either way, not everyone agrees that Taiwan is a part of China, as Taiwan makes clear. If you attempt to change that article unilaterally, I expect that you will be quickly reverted. shoy (reactions) 15:30, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Cultured Meat Artificiality Section Edit

Goodevening dearest Shoy,much pleasured to meet you,i am abbas.Thank you so very really much for your very polite and constructive response.I would like to say I am very sorry to edit the artificiality section that you wrote in Cultured meat Wikipedia article,without your consent,i wasn't aware of that.I am also very sorry I know my edit seemed as if it was biased,but I really believed the science in my humble opinion that I was writing about,as in that clean meat is naturally produced in a natural environment within an artificial setting.I tottally recognize as well that the word natural can have different interpertations.But most importantly I would like to add about factual statements as I am aware in my very humble view,of that cultured meat is composed of animal tissue AND fat+support cells,as well as blood vessels(link: https://www.aleph-farms.com/#RD).Additionally I would like to add that clean meat can be free of the artificial antibiotics,steroids,hormones and gmos that are in most common factory farmed and not meat and seafood.I am so sorry for saying some of my arguments that you might not agree with,i fully respect your very sophisticated edits.Thank you so very really much for your time again and in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clean animal products is the greatest invention ever (talk • contribs) 20:28, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

@Clean animal products is the greatest invention ever: I reverted your edits for several reasons. First of all, you added information without adding a reliable source. Any edits need to be sourced to reliable sources and not just personal knowledge or opinions. Based on your username, it appears that you have a particular point of view to push here, and that's not how Wikipedia works. Articles must be written from a neutral point of view. Secondly, the text was poorly written and difficult to understand. If English isn't your first language, you can suggest edits on the article talk page, or find a different Wikipedia where you are able to write more fluently. Note that I didn't revert your edits because I do or don't "agree with" your arguments. shoy (reactions) 20:47, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

March 28/2019 Dearest Shoy,Goodday.Thank you so very lot much for your rational and very respectful response again.I would like to say I am sorry as i do understand,as a new Wikipedia editor that I used some words like natural, and perspectives that are subjective to my opinion and belief,and I will refrain from using them in the future,especially without the consent of the initial writer,like you,as well as the fact that I did not add sources.I will try to always be as neutral as possible.In that matter,i thank you so much as your work in Wikipedia and this section is terrific and for that i would definitely not like to change anything you wrote,but only add/edit,if I may to your exceptional section of Artificiality in Cultured meat Article these parts in parentheses() : 

Part 1:  Although cultured meat consists of genuine animal muscle cells,(fat and support cells,and blood vessels (link,reliable and approved company,all 4 have been grown in their thin beef steaks grown in culture: https://www.aleph-farms.com/#RD)) that are the same in traditional meat,(some) consumers...Cultured meat has been falsesly described as (fake or) "Frankenmeat".[74]                                      
Part 2: If cultured...The lack of bone,(irregularities(or texture irregularities) and blood) may...However the lack of bones,(irregularities(or texture irregularities) or blood) may..children[75].  (Additionally irregularities in meat(or texture irregularities) could be addressed if the natural environmental physically effects of traditional,conventional or hunted meat would be in effect identically in the artificial setting where cultured meat could continue growing in.Furthermore cultured blood and bones could be produced in the future as well) {1) https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/lab-grown-blood-be-trialed-uk/, 2) https://www.wired.co.uk/article/lab-grown-bone-biomedical-engineering-osteoporosis-amputees}.

I would totally understand if in the part 2 you would not desire to add the part from the "Additionally irregularities" to "future as well",as it is not reminding of a Wikipedia article.But for the rest part I personally do not see a problem with adding them,but I fully respect if you do.I am so sorry again for my multiple replies.Thank you so very really much for your time,kindness and in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.251.116.4 (talk) 15:17, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

You seem to misunderstand how Wikipedia works. No editorWP:OWNs any page here, and I did not write the page initially. In fact that is the first time I have ever edited it. In response to Part 1, I would never use a company's website to support an article, that might appear to be promoting their products. For part 2, I can't find anything in either source to support "Additionally irregularities in meat(or texture irregularities) could be addressed if the natural environmental physically effects of traditional,conventional or hunted meat would be in effect identically in the artificial setting where cultured meat could continue growing in". Can you help me find where that came from? shoy (reactions) 15:34, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Dearest Shoy,thank you so very much for your very kind and rational response again.On part 1 if you would like,may I replace the aleph farms link with this: {(https://www.dezeen.com/2018/12/18/lab-grown-steak-beef-slaughter-free-aleph-farms-design/) quote"(The steak was manufactured...support cells, fat cells, blood vessel cells and muscle cells")}.I am so sorry to ask you again but if you would like,may I suggest to add in the part 1 at its end after (or Frankenmeat) part to say:( Additionally clean meat can be grown without the artificial antibiotics,hormones,steroids,medicine and GMOs used in much of the common factory farmed and not,meat and seafood).As of part 2 i am sorry for writing like that this part: (Additionally irregularities... future as well),i only meant it in the hypothetical sense that artificial settings could provide identical natural conditions for meat to grow in the future,as a freezer can do that for ice from water currently,but thank you so very much for mentioning that since it is hypothetical,i fully agree and remove that proposal of this whole part.Thank you so very widely much again for your time and understanding — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abbas Sihbasd (talk • contribs) 18:14, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

That's fine, as long as the punctuation and spacing are correct. If you need help with that or how to format your reference, just ask. shoy (reactions) 18:46, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Dearest Shoy,thank you so very absolutely truly much for your significant help and kindful replies,hope we will communicate again on Wikipedia,warm regards.

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A barnstar for you!

The No Spam Barnstar
You dredged up a ton of spam - thank you for your UAA reports! GABgab 20:06, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
@GeneralizationsAreBad: Thanks! Just doing my part. shoy (reactions) 20:25, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

March 2019

Dear Shoy, thank you for your message on my contribution on Open-Handed Drumming. The reason that I did not back up what I wrote with annotated references is because what I wrote was an original observation. Even though I can't annotate my piece with an actual reference per se, I can cite a list of drummers who exemplify the 3 different methods that I am talking about. For example:

The drummers who exemplify dominant side riding are: Danny Carey (Tool) Gary Chester King Coffey (Butthole Surfers) Micky Dolenz (The Monkees) Mark Heron (Oceansize) Tom Hunting (Exodus) Sebastian Lanser Harry Miree Scott Travis (Judas Priest)

Then, I'd do the same for the off side riders and the ambidextrous riders.

Would that suffice?

Please advise,

Matthew A Jackson CCM Drummer --CCM Drummer (talk) 12:30, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

@CCM Drummer: Unfortunately, we can't use your own observations. Wikipedia needs references to reliable sources, instead of original research. For example, you could cite an article in Rolling Stone or another music magazine or website. If you need help on how to add references, I would start by reading Help:Referencing for beginners. Good luck, shoy (reactions) 12:34, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Regards to my vandalism

I appreciate your attitude towards Wikipedia, however the first sentence i wrote was because there was no coverage of what his actions led to as great impacts. I will admit though that second sentence was inappropriate but it was my idea of a memey joke that if a few were lucky, would have a laugh. So i am sorry for my edit and hope that you can forgive me. 😊😊😊 OwOCOMUNISSUMUwU (talk) 21:00, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

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NPR Newsletter No.18

Hello Shoy,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:

  • Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
  • Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.
Reliable Sources for NPP

Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.

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World Neurosurgery

Why did you revert all the changes I made to the World Neurosurgery page????? Managingeditorwns (talk) 21:54, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Why did you revert all the changes I made to the World Neurosurgery page????? Mangingeditorwns (talk) 22:04, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

@Mangingeditorwns: You appear to have a conflict of interest with World Neurosurgery. Based on your username, they appear to be your employer, so you should not be directly editing that page at all. You must comply with the paid editing rules per Wikipedia's Terms of Use. Please declare your conflict of interest on your userpage and suggest factual, sourced edits at Talk:World Neurosurgery using the {{request edit}} template. shoy (reactions) 12:51, 31 May 2019 (UTC)


Thank you, Shoy. I am a trustworthy person and meant no harm. The info on the page is very outdated and incorrect thus the reason I was asked to update. Will follow your guidelines as noted above for revisions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mangingeditorwns (talk • contribs) 12:59, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

UAA

Someone must have held a seminar-- how to drive traffic to your website with one esay edit.Dlohcierekim (talk) 15:55, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

@Dlohcierekim: Lucky for me, filter 149 catches a lot of them. I try to go through it a couple times a week and clean it out. shoy (reactions) 18:20, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019

Hello Shoy,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.

QUALITY of REVIEWING

Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.

Backlog

The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.

Move to draft

NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations.

Notifying users

Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging.

PERM

Admins are now taking advantage of the new time-limited user rights feature. If you have recently been accorded NPR, do check your user rights to see if this affects you. Depending on your user account preferences, you may receive automated notifications of your rights changes. Requests for permissions are not mini-RfAs. Helpful comments are welcome if absolutely necessary, but the bot does a lot of the work and the final decision is reserved for admins who do thorough research anyway.

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New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

Hello Shoy,

Backlog

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Coordinator

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.

This month's refresher course

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.

Deletion tags

Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.

Paid editing

Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.

Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion
  • Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
  • Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.
Not English
  • A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.
Tools

Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent enhancements to the New Pages Feed and features in the Curation tool, and there are still more to come. Due to the wealth of information now displayed by ORES, reviewers are strongly encouraged to use the system now rather than Twinkle; it will also correctly populate the logs.

Stub sorting, by SD0001: A new script is available for adding/removing stub tags. See User:SD0001/StubSorter.js, It features a simple HotCat-style dynamic search field. Many of the reviewers who are using it are finding it an improvement upon other available tools.

Assessment: The script at User:Evad37/rater makes the addition of Wikiproject templates extremely easy. New page creators rarely do this. Reviewers are not obliged to make these edits but they only take a few seconds. They can use the Curation message system to let the creator know what they have done.

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Please undo individual edits, not intervening edits

In undoing a COI edit, you also rolled back my citation improvement. I reverted your revert. Please see if you can undo or remove only the COI portion. Peaceray (talk) 14:51, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks

In your report at UAA regarding Orion social, you mentioned that they were still editing after being contacted about their username, but I still missed it somehow.  :/ I have blocked them now. Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:34, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for the help. shoy (reactions) 13:53, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Review

Thank you for reviewing Ducol. MinorProphet (talk) 23:50, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

New section

Hello Shoy

The edits we've made to the Idic15[2] page are to clearly show that Dup15q is a trademarked name and not a public interchangeable name with Idic15. If linking to the page for the Dup15q alliance logo policy is not allowed, then we will simply remove the Dup15q word from the Idic15 page because Dup15q is a private trademarked name as shown on the Dup15q Alliance webpage[3]. Thank you Idic15 (talk) 19:23, 12 October 2019 (UTC) Idic15 Families

Replied on your talk page. shoy (reactions) 13:07, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Review

Thanks you for reviewing Yadavindra College of Engineering. I disagree with the reason given (per WP:BRANCH, No independent notability asserted) for pointing this page to parent organization.

As per this criteria, the articles Panjab University and its branch Panjab University Swami Sarvanand Giri Regional Centre, Hoshiarpur should also have been merged? I want to point out that though Yadavindra College of Engineering is part of Punjabi University, but the location of this college is different and also being an independent off-site campus of Punjabi university its enough notable. Adding this as an independent article will improve the readability of content at wikipedia. Quality_check (talk)

@Quality check: You could always merge the relevant information to Punjabi University. shoy (reactions) 12:38, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Deprodding of Real Vision

I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Real Vision, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! The reason you gave, because it did not have in-depth coverage, I believe is incorrect. The New York Times did quite a long and in-depth article about the company. Thanks. QrackerJack (talk) 07:27, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

I'm confused and need to speak with someone

Hi Shoy, you said that I made edits to the Rosetta Stone software page and you reversed them because I have a conflict of interest. In fact I did not make a single edit to the Rosetta Stone software page because I am well aware of the policy, so I'm not sure why you wrote to me, and I'm not sure what you would have reversed. I have been trying to connect with someone to better understand how to go about making edits because the task feels overwhelming -- basically our entire page is so outdated that I don't know how to begin suggesting edits. Is there anyone I can talk with by phone so I can ask questions more efficiently? Thank you in advance.Andiriggs (talk) 17:07, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

@Andiriggs: What I posted on your user talk was just a boilerplate collection of links that I thought you might find useful. You said you are aware of our COI policy but you haven't yet explicitly complied with WP:PAID which requires a userpage notice. As far as your second question goes, I think you might be somewhat confused about how Wikipedia is set up. Wikipedia is written by a collection of volunteers all over the world sitting at their own computers, and very little central power. There is no call center or help number to answer your questions. Most volunteers edit anonymously to protect their own privacy and (speaking only for myself here) I would not give out my personal phone number to a total stranger. Also, Wikipedia in general cares very little about what companies have to say about themselves, and a lot of volunteer time is spent on fighting spam and editors with a conflict of interest trying to promote their own companies. Sorry this news isn't better for you, but in general if you want something done here, then you're going to need to do it yourself. (Pinging Spintendo (talk · contribs) as our resident COI editor expert: do you have any other advice for this editor?) shoy (reactions) 18:07, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

COI edit

--USPIS (talk) 19:42, 30 October 2019 (UTC)== COI edit ==

Hi, Shoy.

You rejected my edits to the U.S. Postal Inspection Service wiki page. At the time of posting, I was not aware of the COI policy, but I have spent some time familiarizing myself with it. In the past, I have only made small changes to pages (incorrect dates, names of agency leaders, etc.), but my manager asked me to add on our main page our more recent crime prevention initiatives. Crime prevention is one of four pillars of our organization, but it's not even covered on this page. With full respect to the COI policy, is there any way at all for us to update this page? It is woefully out of date and incomplete. The only crime prevention campaign mentioned is from 13 years ago.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by USPIS (talk • contribs) 19:33, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

@USPIS: The short answer is that you need to change your username to represent a person rather than an organization, declare your connection with USPIS on your user page, and request edits on the article talk page since you are a paid editor according to Wipedia's Terms of Use, see WP:PAID. I added some useful links to your talk page with more information on each of these. Note that this is still a Wikipedia article, not a page owned by USPIS. In general, Wikipedia cares very little about how companies and organizations want their pages to look, and large swathes of text copy/pasted from existing websites don't generally make an existing article better. shoy (reactions) 19:57, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

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New Page Review newsletter November 2019

Hello Shoy,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.

Getting the queue to 0

There are now 819 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
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Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards.

Coordinator

Admin Barkeep49 has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers.

This month's refresher course

Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources.

Tools
  • It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
  • It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.
Reviewer Feedback

Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13.

Second set of eyes
  • Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
  • Do be sure to have our talk page on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.
Arbitration Committee

The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights.

Community Wish list

There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion.

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Out of Control Director Axel Sand

Hallo Shoy, You removed my changes to the page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_Control_(2017_film)

Why did You remove the Links to Director Axel Sand? https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axel_Sand

On my pages filmography You can see that I'm the director of that film. Axel Sand (talk) 07:10, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

@Axel Sand: The previous version of the page already had links to your de.wiki page using the Interlanguage link template. If you click on (de) it will take you there. We don't use bare URLs to link to other language Wikipedias. Also, if you are in fact Axel Sand, you have a conflict of interest and shouldn't be editing pages about yourself or your work. shoy (reactions) 12:28, 22 October 2019 (UTC)


Hello Shoy, so my contributer sandbox maybe is wrong too, because it contains my work. Should I delete it?

One more question: One film of mine has the wrong title picture on wiki. Can I exchange it or should somebody else do it because I'm connected to that film? And who can exchange it then? Thanks a lot, sorry, I'm a newby. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Axel Sand (talk • contribs) 17:09, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

@Axel Sand: Your user page is fine. There are a lot fewer "rules" for what is allowed on userpages, see WP:USER. What article is at the wrong title and where do you want it moved to? shoy (reactions) 18:51, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

The movie poster of the Movie Page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_Control_(2017_film) is not the official movie poster (seems to be from a fan). How can I transfer the original movie poster to You? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Axel Sand (talk • contribs) 20:32, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

@Axel Sand: See Help:Uploading images to walk you through the process. shoy (reactions) 13:18, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

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Can you help me set up a wikipedia page for this? Tomzegan (talk) 05:32, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

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I'm sorry but I am trying to promote president Donald Trump in a positive manner. Tomzegan (talk) 01:08, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

@Tomzegan: This is not a place to promote anyone or anything. Wikipedia has neutral encyclopedia articles. Perhaps you should use social media or a personal website instead. shoy (reactions) 14:40, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

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Year in review

It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by Rosguill who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to JTtheOG and Onel5969 who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to John B123, Hughesdarren, and Mccapra who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by DannyS712 which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.

Rank Username Num reviews Log
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2 Rosguill (talk) 63,821 Patrol Page Curation
3 John B123 (talk) 21,697 Patrol Page Curation
4 Onel5969 (talk) 19,879 Patrol Page Curation
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