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Request for openion[edit]

Article Legitimacy (criminal law) has been requested to be moved to Legitimacy (law) requesting your openion at Talk:Legitimacy_(criminal_law)

Thanks and regards

Mahitgar (talk) 06:09, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I neither have an opinion nor expertise in this area, but thanks for asking. Schwede66 06:46, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Darcy Clay[edit]

Hi there i saw you edited something on darcy clay and i was wondering if you could find out how he comitted suicide? GrizzAliBear (talk) 15:05, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That was part of a routine edit carried out across maybe 100 or so articles. I know nothing about this person. Schwede66 22:54, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Parmjeet Parmar[edit]

Hi. I can't find any evidence that the above person is no longer a List MP. Has she been demoted down the list, or was there some other reason? Akld guy (talk) 07:16, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand your question to be honest; the article (or at least the parlbox) says that she is a list MP. I'm on holiday and don't have time to look into it. Schwede66 08:00, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm referring to your removal of MP from honorific-suffix in the box. Wondering why it was done and whether you're mistaken. Akld guy (talk) 08:04, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see. MP is simply not shown as a suffix. Don't know where the rules are written down. I think it was Mattlore who's gone through all the NZ bios and removed them all. Schwede66 13:25, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm...did I? Sounds like something I might do but I don't recall doing it. I understood consensus to be that we don't have a honorific for MP's in New Zealand. However, as Schwede is away, Akld guy I suggest we transfer this to the New Zealand notice board and get a consensus there? Mattlore (talk) 20:37, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Schwede, when something is entered against honorific-suffix, honorific does not appear in the box, but the entry (MP in this case) appears all by itself under the person's name at the top of the box. Mattlore, I believe that a list MP is entitled to the suffix MP. Meanwhile, I've re-instated the entry. Look directly under her name in the box. Akld guy (talk) 20:53, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for your additions of citation needed tags to the poorly sourced page, Russell Young (tennis).

Unfortunately, user keeps removing all the {{fact}} tags.

User also keeps adding back wholly unsourced info and unreferenced claims with no evidence.

What can be done here?

Sagecandor (talk) 17:31, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sagecandor, thanks for your query. As you may have seen, I'm on holiday, hence the delay in responding. While I'm keeping an eye on things via mobile, that's a clumsy tool for showing diffs etc. Now I've got an opportunity to respond.
When there's a citation needed tag, that refers to the preceding material in that paragraph. As such, with this edit you removed some material that did not have a citation needed tag, and that can be somewhat irritating to other editors. Personally, I would never have removed the DSO material in the first instance, but would have looked for a citation instead. You will no doubt find an entry in The London Gazette, which is available online.
You then got into a minor tussle with Anmccaff. Their revert was very close to being disruptive editing. Trying to sort it out on the article's talk page is a good way of going about it. I also suggest that you try and find a cite for the DSO in the source that I suggested.
I hope that's helpful. I suggest to both of you that you keep up your good work; you are obviously both here for the same good reason. Schwede66 08:07, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Schwede66. A favor, if I might, once you are back where editing is convenient? Could you take a moment to look over Sagecandor's, and my, recent edits; last 48 hours or so? If afterwards, you still see that revert as disruptive, or close to it, then please open it at ANI; otherwise please strike through the remark above. Thanks. Anmccaff (talk) 14:50, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Back from holidays at end of August. Schwede66 14:54, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. See you (metaphorically) then. Anmccaff (talk) 14:57, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Have you had a chance to look at this? Anmccaff (talk) 14:11, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nope. And from tomorrow, I'll be more or less offline again for another week. Schwede66 18:09, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Later (squared), then. Anmccaff (talk) 18:11, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

RfA[edit]

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Draft:Debbie Griffiths[edit]

Hi Schwede66. This article may not ever be suitable for the mainspace but would like to ask your opinion. I have added a few more sources since you last checked. Let me know if you think it can go to the mainspace. I will otherwise leave it or might just delete it. Not much else I can find! Understand fully if there is not much I can do. I have also started Draft:Holly Pollock but will leave this in the background for now. Im asking all of this as the sources have a big range between each source so there might not be much point going further with them. --TheDomain (talk) 07:53, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright Jacinda Ardern[edit]

Many apologies! I certainly wasn't claiming ownership of the image. Is it likely this is what happened to the previous image for Jacinda as well? I only replaced it because the previous one disappeared and was left blank. Is there any way to find out if a picture is freely licensed, or is it a guessing game for the most part? And why is google images allowed to display images with a source without it being an infringement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clesam11 (talk • contribs) 07:10, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Clesam11 – nobody said that you were claiming ownership. But you helped yourself to somebody else's copyrighted image; that's what the problem was. Copyright is a very complicated area. To be on the safe side, take the photos yourself that you upload. If you really want to know more about it, have a read on Commons. The rules on and for Wikipedia & Wikimedia Commons are quite different from those that apply to Google etc. Schwede66 11:23, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Potential edit war[edit]

On the Opinion polling for the New Zealand general election, 2017 page there is a bit of toing and froing regarding a footnote and would appreciate your input to resolve this when you can. However, what I'm more concerned about is the other users conduct, which seems to me to be rather combative and not assuming good faith. Kiwichris (talk) 07:36, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've weighed in on the article talk page.-gadfium 08:51, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Seemingly resolved now, thanks. Kiwichris (talk) 08:26, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm travelling without my laptop but wanted to comment when I've got my equipment back. Schwede66 16:52, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Elsie Locke[edit]

Can you add ISBNs to the books that have them? That would count as references. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 20:37, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Happy to do so, but I'll be on holiday for another week with limited access to my laptop. So it won't be an immediate task but it will happen. Schwede66 20:46, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Bigg-Wither[edit]

Hi - thanks for adding all that extra details for CBW. I added in the correct dates. I've never edited a wiki page before - so I gave it a go on the dates. All those points you added I know as true as we have all that in our family records. Charles was my 3rd Great Grandfather. I have a photo of him - but am unsure how to upload or to annotate correctly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hdmi1080 (talk • contribs) 11:43, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hdmi1080 Go to commons and give the upload a go. It's obviously not your own photo (i.e. not taken by you), so click the relevant box. In the field "Another reason not mentioned above", copy-paste the following code into that field: {{PD-New Zealand}} If it works, let me know (i.e. put the resulting file name into a reply). If it doesn't work, let me know and we'll figure something else out. Schwede66 12:01, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Assessment[edit]

Thanks for the link that is helpful NealeFamily (talk) 07:16, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Phil Healey[edit]

Hi Schwede - I took a look at Phil Healey and found that there is coverage about him in the NZ Herald and on Stuff. There are a number of items on various sports related sites as well covering a period from about 2006. Not sure if he would be considered notable in his field though as these are all NZ sites. NealeFamily (talk) 23:14, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

NealeFamily, feel free to remove the PROD; I would not mind one bit. Schwede66 01:40, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Kelvin Davis[edit]

Your suggested page move (which seems reasonable to me) needs to go through WP:RM because it isn't just a case of moving Kelvin Davis to Kelvin Davis (footballer), as the Kelvin Davis (disambiguation) page would also need to be moved to Kelvin Davis. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 10:48, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I slipped up. Sorry, Jmorrison230582. Before I do the final move (i.e. the dab page taking the place of the previous primary topic), I like to tidy up incoming links so that there aren't dozens of dab links created for a wee while. And once I had dealt with the 100 or so pages that needed fixing (finding a half dozen articles that wrongly pointed to the goalkeeper in the process), I forgot to then also move the dab page. I'll do so now.
Then again, the edit summary on the goalkeeper's page doesn't quite align with what you appear to be saying above. Are you, after all, suggesting that it should go through a move request? I interpreted the above as 'only a move request will result in somebody coming along who can delete the target page, so that the dab page can be moved'. Schwede66 18:44, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Curling[edit]

Man... that was quick! 12:08 I create an article; 12:13 I add references. Between those two edits you added an "unreferenced" tag! Grutness...wha? 12:15, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, mate. Got a notification of a page getting linked that I once created. I sensed it was something brand-new, but didn't look who was working on it. Should have. Sorry. Schwede66 12:17, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No probs - good to see you're on your toes :) Grutness...wha? 12:19, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Re: the redlinks[edit]

This seems to be standard practice on curling list articles - see for example List of curling clubs in Germany, List of curling clubs in France. Grutness...wha? 01:31, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Clean Start?[edit]

Hi, thanks for your suggestion but I'm not sure why you think I should read the Clean Start page? Another editor also insinuated that I was a "Sock Puppet", I imagine this is the same thing you are talking about?

This is my first time editing Wikipedia - it's not that hard to understand how the system works. I've been browsing the site for years, am a computer programmer and had a few hours to play around with in the last couple of days and figured out how to do things. It's not rocket science, I'm sure I'm getting protocols wrong, but I'm not an experienced editor coming back under an new alias as people are accusing.

CelenaSkaggs (talk) 19:07, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

CelenaSkaggs, I shall explain.
Step 1 – check your contributions:
10 Sep 2017 – your first day on WP
11 Sep 2017 – your second day on WP
14 Sep 2017 – your third (active) day on WP
Step 2 – run contributions history through the duck test as to whether this is a new or experienced user.
Outcome - it quacked. Schwede66 06:11, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you are wrong. I found an article i thought should be deleted Vincenzo Langella, i signed up to Wiki, and figured out how to delete it. I did a few more, but the process was pretty laborious. At some point i read that I could automate deletions by Twinkle. I tried, it said i needed to wait 4 days to set it up.

I waited 4 days, and installed Twinkle. It's easy, you just click on a link and it auto-installs. I started to use Twinkle.

It's not rocket science you know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CelenaSkaggs (talk • contribs) 16:34, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

See also this account, created on September 13th, less than a week after CelenaSkaggs. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:46, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks![edit]

Hi Schwede, thank you for your comments at my RfA. Your support is much appreciated! ansh666 22:23, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Indef?[edit]

Did you mean to block [1] and [2], and also [3] back in February indefinitely? They appear to be IP addresses not accounts. –72 (talk) 20:57, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, 72, for spotting that. I've had another read of WP:IPBLENGTH and obviously, you are right. Have unblocked the February instance, and shortened the other blocks to 72 hours (that particular anon has been at it for a few days by now). Don't hesitate to share your thoughts or ask further questions. Schwede66 21:09, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, thanks for taking a look! –72 (talk) 21:13, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Vera Burt[edit]

Hi Schwede66. For info, I've found some sources on the recent death of Vera Burt. Quite interesting reading the biography from the New Zealand Cricket Museum. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:37, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lugnuts Yes, interesting bio! Schwede66 08:42, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Liz Craig[edit]

Hi Schwede66. Just saw the hard work you are doing with the pages for new MPs. This is regardin Liz Craig. While I know wikipedia isn't primary source, can we use the qualifications listed in Liz Craig's staff page at Otago Uni's School of Medicine? http://www.otago.ac.nz/dsm/people/expertise/profile/index.html?id=827

She's listed as Senior lecturer with the following qualifications:MB ChB DipObs DipPaeds MPH PhD FAFPHM

This 2012 article https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/poverty-time-wake lists her as "director of Otago University's NZ Child and Youth Epidemiology Service". I guess the other is she's an academic with some published papers. Not sure if it is worth tracking them down to list. I found 2 attributed to Craig, E. Can't read the 2nd article so may not be her. http://www.cpag.org.nz/assets/Health/120301%20NZMJChildHeath%20NT.pdf and Craig, E., Kerr, N., & McDonald, G. (2017). Coding paediatric outpatient data to provide health planners with information on children with chronic conditions and disabilities. Journal of Paediatrics & Child Health, 53(3), 283-290. doi: 10.1111/jpc.13365 regards

Linnah (talk) 12:34, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Linnah. Craig being from Dunedin, there will be lots about her in the ODT. I'll look into it, but don't let that stop you from chipping in. Schwede66 18:20, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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