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File:Khauxanas stamps.jpg listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Khauxanas stamps.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. ww2censor (talk) 19:25, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Pyant, etc.

Thanks! I'll keep your note and discuss with you next time I start a worthy article. Very kind of you! -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:08, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Hendrik Samuel Witbooi

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:08, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Andreas Lambert

Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Updating Namibian local and regional elections, 2010

Hi there, I could use your help updating the 2010 regional and local election page as well info on the new NC and various local authorities. I think this from The Namibian has been quite helpful so far. Thanks!--TM 07:06, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi TM, I haven't seen (nor found by googling) a centralised list of results, and this article suggests there might not be one at all. I guess we'll have to wait until some NGO compiles it. Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 13:50, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
I just found this from the ECN.--TM 18:54, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Ah, fantastic, didn't see that. Will try to help with this. Do you proceed in a special order? In Berseba Constituency I saw you put redlinks for all constituency contestants--are you really planning to write biographies for all those? (Because if neither you nor I do it, nobody will ;) ) Seriously, I don't think you'll ever find enough information to put articles together on those. I would not redlink the winners, only the ones who are finally sent to the National Council. The runners-up and all others in the contest I wouldn't even mention. --Pgallert (talk) 07:08, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Quite true regarding the runners-up. I would redlink the winners though, not just the ones going to the NC. They are technically inherently notable, like State Legislators in the US and you never know who may be selected to the next NA or deputy minister :). I also wanted to ask you about the Henties Bay local authority election results. The Civic Association of Henties Bay won a plurality of votes in the constituency but they weren't listed in the Namibian's article and I noticed you didn't include them in the table of parties winning seats. Do you know why they aren't included?--TM 04:37, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
No idea, honestly--I did see your question on the election talk page, but I just don't know. What I also find annoying is the lack of information on how many seats per local council the parties won. Must be somewhere, if The Namibian can sum it up, but I didn't find it. --Pgallert (talk) 10:41, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Re: winners of the local elections: If I understand this right, a seat in the local council is not even a paid position (although certainly WP:N is satisfied because it was written for more populous and affluent countries), and the chances are slim that these people will have anything written about them unless they raise to more prominent positions. But no problem, we can redlink them. Just wanted to make sure we do it consistently across the local authorities. --Pgallert (talk) 10:41, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Hm, I didn't know they aren't paid positions. It seems strange for a country where politicians are among the wealthiest. I think red-linking them is good for posterity. In 4 years when a new election is held or a NA or NC member dies, it is likely some of these will be appointed to the higher position and something will be written about them. Hopefully by then more than two editors will be writing about Namibia. On a separate note, I think Namibia has some of the most thorough coverage in all of Wikipedia for an African country. Good work to us. :)--TM 16:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I think quite something has happened in the past years, and the level of coverage might never be that of the UK or Germany. The WikiProject itself went from 500-odd recognised pages to 1650 (although there are quite a few deletion candidates, e.g. here. Still some work to do... Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 17:22, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

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Leonardville, Namibia

Hi there, I started an article on Leonardville, Namibia and I know that you are much more of an expert on the Oorlam people than I am, so I thought you may want to expand it. Thanks!--TM 05:46, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Great, I wanted to start it myself, but you were faster ;) I'm sure we'll get this one to DYK. --Pgallert (talk) 08:20, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Long enough now, do you want to nominate it, or should I do that? My hook candidate would be: ...that of the 500 remaining Namibian San speaking Taa, over 50 reside in Leonardville? --Pgallert (talk) 18:31, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
You did most of the work, so I will let you do the nominating :) Good work!--TM 18:38, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Well, you made me do it ;)  Done nominated. --Pgallert (talk) 19:25, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Re: Lufthansa Flight 592

I've replied to the comment you left on Talk:Lufthansa Flight 592, and also at DYK. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 20:13, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Leonardville, Namibia

Orlady (talk) 00:03, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Amraal Lambert

Orlady (talk) 00:03, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of biographies of living people

Further information: Wikipedia:Proposed deletion of biographies of living people

As of April 3, 2010, a proposed deletion process for unsourced biographies was established, requiring all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010 to have at least one reliable source that supports at least one statement about the subject. Once the article is tagged in this manner, the {{prod blp}} tag may not be removed until such a source is provided. If none is forthcoming the article may be deleted after 10 days. This does not affect any other deletion process.

I did cite reliable sources and did assert notability. Also, you asserted notability in your shocking remark, which was not based on fact, but opinion as I clarified for you. Please don't make false, misleading, biased, or deceptive statements about a subject and the context. Thank you.KnightofZion (talk) 12:41, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

KnightofZion, please have a look around this place and check how people treat each other. Your current way of communicating will not make you many friends. If you want to join us to build an encyclopedia, feel free to contact me with any question you might have. Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 07:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Syntax help needed

{{helpme}} I just now completed 2 AfD nominations:

Both are listed in today's log, but the first one just does not transclude. What is my mistake there? Thanks, Pgallert (talk) 12:22, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

There's something wrong with the one above it, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas Jäger (racing driver), but I can't see what... JohnCD (talk) 12:33, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
I still don't know what it was, but I've fixed it by casting a !vote at Thomas Jäger. JohnCD (talk) 12:48, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Oh, and I thought I solved it :) by retyping the curly brackets around it in the daily log. Thanks, Pgallert (talk) 12:52, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
I don't know which of us did it. The curly brackets looked OK, but so did Thomas J. One of life's mysteries. JohnCD (talk) 13:00, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK idea

Hi. You previously asked me to alert you to new articles that ought to be on DYK. I am not the primary author of either of these - they were both researched and primarily written by User:Tim riley, and I think both are really very good: Richard Watson (singer) and James Walker (conductor). Suggested tags: 1. ...that after singing Wagner, Verdi other opera at London's Royal Opera House and elsewhere, bass Richard Watson spent the next two decades specializing in Gilbert and Sullivan. 2. ...that after producing Decca recordings for the D'Oyly Carte Opera Company, James Walker joined the company for a decade, becoming its musical director.

Feel free to nominate them. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:38, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Uuh, ooh, that's not my area of expertise at all. But I'll go through these and nominate. Currently looking at a possibility to combine them into a double hook; their biographies overlapped at D'Oyly Carte Opera Company. Thanks for letting me know! Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 21:20, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
My pleasure. Thanks for doing the nomination. Yes, the articles overlap at Gilbert and Sullivan and D'Oyly Carte. BTW, I'd rather you say Gilbert and Sullivan operas, instead of Savoy operas, as the first is more specific and the link leads the reader to our project's flagship article. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:11, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 Done, see nominations at Richard Watson (singer) and James Walker (conductor). Didn't find a good double hook. it looks as if they never met. --Pgallert (talk) 10:22, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Super, thanks! I hoped you enjoyed reading these. WP:G&S is now approaching 450 articles! -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:13, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Most welcome. I should admit I did not know Gilbert nor Sullivan nor any of their operas before yesterday... shame on me. And I should admit that I am envious of a WProject that has 16 active members, while ours has a grand total of 2. All the best, Pgallert (talk) 18:37, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uttering

On January 24th I proposed the article Uttering for deletion. On January 25th it was closed by Pgallert, a non-admin, as “Speedy Keep”. I nominated the article to be deleted because the premise of the article is false, and the sources used to support the article are taken out of context. I would not go as far as to say the article is a hoax, but it is certainly false and misleading.

It is not a crime to be caught "uttering". The Criminal Code of Canada defines the word "utter" at Part XII - Offences Relating to Currency, Section 448 (Definitions): "utter" includes sell, pay, tender and put off. None of those defined terms are criminal acts in themselves. "Uttering" is not the crime, but is just a word being used to describe a crime such as “uttering of false money”, or “uttering and publishing an alleged fictitious instrument in writing", or “forgery and the uttering of a forged instrument”. The word “uttering” in itself, is just a word, and the act of “uttering”, in itself, is not a crime. I proposed that the article should be deleted as it is false and unverifiable.

The AfD was closed in less a day by User:Pgallert, a non-admin who stated that “The result was speedy keep. Deletion rationale has been refuted - both verifiable and true. Isofar as "only a word" refers to WP:DICT, this deletion argument has also been shown to be wrong.

Only two editors had had the oppourtunity to respond in the AfD, both of whom were the primary contributors to the article. This article is factually incorrect, and it was wrong for Pgallert to close the deletion discussion before there had been a full and proper opportunity for all interested editors to fully understand and discuss the issues. Securel (talk) 23:34, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi Securel, I agree with your description of the timeline of events. As for my closing motivation: To begin with, I had difficulties finding a policy-based deletion rationale from your side. "Not a crime" is certainly not a valid reason to delete an article, and neither is "factually wrong". As stated in my closing rationale, I interpreted your deletion nomination to be based on three pillars:
  1. false - possibly hinting at a hoax. This has been refuted through the supply of WP:Reliable sources
  2. unverifiable - this I saw as mapping to WP:V. This argument has likewise been refuted through the supply of WP:Reliable sources
  3. only a word - this I interpreted as a deletion rationale based on WP:NOTDICT, which has been refuted by the references in the article, as pointed out by the two "keep" !voters.
Summarily I believed that all deletion arguments had been refuted, and there was no "delete" !vote standing. The amount of "keep" votes does not matter much in this context, as AfD is not a head count anyway. The time it stayed open I admit was short--from my perspective it was still in yesterday's log; But you are right that I should probably have not closed it before a full 24-hour period had passed to give you as nominator the chance to respond. My apologies for that.
As this incident is over a month old, I feel re-opening it would not be proper. Feel free to approach WP:Deletion Review to get a comment on my closure, and possibly a WP:TROUT slap for me. Be alerted, though, that after my closure, another editor !voted "keep", and an administrator very experienced in the deletion process reinstated my non-admin closure. You can see this from the page history. Regards, Pgallert (talk) 08:21, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of James Walker (conductor)

Hello! Your submission of James Walker (conductor) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 22:06, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

It is already at preparation area, so it seems the issue has been sorted out. But for interest's sake, and in case you can remember (I want to know what blunders I have made): What was the issue with my nom? Thanks, Pgallert (talk) 07:17, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for James Walker (conductor)

Materialscientist (talk) 18:02, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Richard Watson (singer)

Materialscientist (talk) 06:02, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Gross Barmen

Materialscientist (talk) 12:04, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Carl Hugo Hahn

Materialscientist (talk) 12:04, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Franz Heinrich Kleinschmidt

Materialscientist (talk) 12:04, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hi, Pgallert. Thank you for your very helpful comments on my DYK nomination for All men are donkeys or men and donkeys are donkeys. I tried to improve the article the way you suggested. In process of doing so I used almost exact wording you used in DYK. I hope you do not mind, if you do, I will try to change it. May I please ask you to take another look at the article? Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:30, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm, yes and no. Technically you will need a reference for that, and I must admit that finding it might be difficult. I could for now not think of any standard text discussing such (from today's perspective) trivial cases. I have notified the WikiProject Logic (here); I am sure somebody there could help to improve the wording and to link it to a standard reference. Cheers, --Pgallert (talk) 17:43, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Well, when you said that it would be difficult to find the references, I realized that what I did could be considered original research. Maybe it will be enough simply to say that sophismata were used in medieval logic, and is not used anymore? Cheers.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:36, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi again, it was more than 24 hours since you posted a question about the article WikiProject Logic, and so far User:Philogo suggested to state your concerns at the article's talk page, but there's no valid reason to hold on DYK nomination. As I explained there to add any information except the one that is used in the sources would be a violation of no original research policy. So, may I please ask you to promote DYK? Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:37, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi Mbz1, and sorry for coming back to you so late. Our Internet connection was very slow yesterday, and I could not work on it. As indicated on the DYK page, I am requesting a second opinion on that. In my opinion it is an issue--I outlined it on the talk page of the article just now. If another editor promotes the hook I have no problem with it but I wish to recuse from the discussion. Hope for your understanding. Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 08:16, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, for merging!--Mbz1 (talk) 23:35, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK 25 Medal

The 25 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
The D.Y.K. Project thanks you for your many contributions to the Encyclopedia. The Interior (Talk) 17:55, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

(Thanks for the reminder!) The Interior (Talk) 17:55, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ponhele ya France

Orlady (talk) 18:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Leave It to Jane

Hi! I have just put up this article on a musical, Leave It to Jane. Feel free to nominate it. I think this would be a snappy hook: "...that although Leave It to Jane was written as part of the Princess Theatre series, another Kern, Bolton and Wodehouse musical was already running there, so it opened elsewhere." Feel free to modify as you wish, but kindly let me know your plans. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:30, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

 Done, see Leave It to Jane. Changed the word order in the hook; to me the word "musical" occurred too late in the sentence to be understood easily. --Pgallert (talk) 19:12, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! Let me know if you are getting tired of doing this for me. I hope you liked Leave It to Jane. It actually has two important effects on the history of musical theatre; one for being one of the Princess Theatre series, and one for having one of the first long-running productions Off-Broadway. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:14, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
You're welcome. If I have a hook that has a ref behind it in the article, then the effort is not significant for me. All I need to do is dig out an old DYK review and link it. Creating hooks from offline refs I don't own is a different story... --Pgallert (talk) 08:10, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Leave It to Jane

Hello! Your submission of Leave It to Jane at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 16:58, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Pgallert, I took care of this. It's approved now. Thanks again! -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:02, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

UNTAG article

Hi. I noticed you rated the UNTAG article recently and made some minor edits. I wrote much of the text of the article a few years ago during a research project and beyond the first few weeks after that it hasnt seen much action. Since you recently took a look at it I was wondering if you had any suggestions for how it might be improved. I just took a look at it references are the most obvious thing, so I'm planning to try to get some reliable sources up today. Any other thoughts? Thanks -- InspectorTiger (talk) 16:34, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Inspector, I am still surprised about coming across Namibia-related articles I thought did not exist. There is no problem with the article as it stands; I see you are currently busy converting the further reading into inline citations, that's good. I have mainly two ideas what to improve: First, the structure seems to be very closely bound to a timeline--don't know if this is possible, but something like Background-Foundation-Mandate-Results-Aftermath seems easier to understand. Second, there is still no Independence of Namibia article. Currently, we link this phrase to the Tripartite Accord (Angola), which is less than ideal. I have the feeling the UNTAG article, much as it currently stands, could be developed into the Independence article, leaving a page or so behind which rather narrowly covers UNTAG. Of course this is just an idea, feel free to go ahead whichever way you chose. Thanks, Pgallert (talk) 19:06, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
I like your framework for the article and Ive rearranged a lot of it and redone the headings with that in mind, though I slightly changed it Background-Foundation-Mandate-Implementation-Results. I also like your idea for an independence article; in its current state it does go rather beyond UNTAG itself. As I said, it was born out of a research paper I wrote a while back about the whole transition. As of now i'm not familiar enough with the rest of the History of Namibia framework that already exists on WP to undertake that just yet. Ideally, obviously, there'd be something like History of the United States with each subsection neatly linked off to a main article, etc. I'm afraid I'm not bold enough to jump into that just yet but I'm more than happy to help out if the move is something you want to do. In the meantime, I'm probably going to leave it as is or possibly try to expand the lede to a more appropriate size if I have time. Thanks for your help. -- InspectorTiger (talk) 03:27, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Maybe not a move; the UNTAG article is getting really good, thanks to your effort. I have started to draft a timeline of Namibian independence in my user space here and hope to have something useful maybe in a week. Independence celebrations are coming up, maybe I can make a DYK for March 21. I have left some comments on Talk:United Nations Transition Assistance Group that affect the flow of prose. --Pgallert (talk) 20:08, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Leave It to Jane

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 09:14, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

I appreciate your feedback. Much of it is anticipated. I am impressed by the tact you demonstrated. Your character resonates in your response, and reflects well. There are areas where I would like clarification, but I have learned a few things. That said, there's no disagreement. Some ambiguity exists but it is subtle and of minimum consequence. I will take heed to your words. And now, here are mine: Thanks and appreciation. My76Strat (talk) 15:52, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I should add that your level-headedness in a storm of critique is admirable and a huge asset; I'll be more than happy to support if and when you again put yourself forward to endure Hell Week. Keep up the good work! --Pgallert (talk) 16:28, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:School and university projects/Polyte

Just letting you know that I declined your speedy deletion here. Novel interpretations of A7, even when reasonable, can be dangerous. We do our best at WT:CSD to keep the criteria narrow, specific, and based only on explicit consensus. I don't disagree that this should be deleted, but I would prefer to see an MfD about it rather than just whacking it myself. Cheers. lifebaka++ 17:43, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, you're right, I was too hasty with that. Just realised that the page had some old content--also not at the right place but certainly not speedyable. Have copied the autobiography to the relating user page, reinstated the old content of the page, and then moved that one to the user space of the creator of that content to preserve edit history. Not sure about the remaining redirect, though. Thanks for notifying. --Pgallert (talk) 09:34, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Dawid Boois

Hi there, I just started Dawid Boois but I do not really understand the controversy mentioned in The Namibian article. It seems that you understand Nama history fairly well, so I'd appreciate it if you can expound a bit more based on the source. Thanks!--TM 21:55, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Tried to clarify--please check if what I wrote is legible. Thanks for letting me know. --Pgallert (talk) 13:41, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

messed up template

Thanks for catching this. I've just spent 15 minutes figuring out what went wrong. This probably happened elsewhere because it's the result of vandalism on template {{Category title}} (which is used by Twinkle). The problematic edit is almost 24 hours old so I'm probably not the only one who ended up spamming talk pages with a blurb about one Pat Avery... Pichpich (talk) 11:48, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Help needed again

User:Slick professor/Enter your new article name here is the page I'm referring to, user only edited on one day in October 2010. Would wikify his work and move to List of Gcikuru kings. --Pgallert (talk) 12:40, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

I see the concern—I would never normally move an active user's draft work in progress to the mainspace without their say so, but a few edits total and none since six months ago? It sure seems abandoned and I think you should go for it. As with all edits, the user freely licensed the copyright to his work when he clicked save, so it's fair game.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:30, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
The short answer is yes you could do it, and by some considerations, should. My76Strat (talk) 14:39, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Hans Daniel Namuhuja

Hello! Your submission of Hans Daniel Namuhuja at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:42, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Heinrich Schmelen

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

He is now featured on Portal:Germany. If you have more DYK related to Germany, feel free to place it there yourself. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:00, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Hurricanes Rugby League

Thanks for spotting that for me. I have renominated it, Twinkle failed again but was on the lookout this time. I think that a team that only exists in name (i.e. not planning to play a game for 18+ months) does not meet the WP:GNG Mtking (talk) 09:11, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Hans Daniel Namuhuja

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Thomas Lawlor (bass-baritone)

Hello again! Would you like to nominate Thomas Lawlor (bass-baritone) for DYK? A possible hook could be: After eight years with the D'Oyly Carte Opera Company, Thomas Lawlor went on to a wider opera career in which he sang more than 60 roles. -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:43, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

 Done nominated. I added one more reference tag because the hook needs to be directly referenced for DYK. Feel free to take it out again after it appeared on the main page. The image might not survive the current speedy deletion request although I believe it could still be fair use. --Pgallert (talk) 08:36, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of the nom! Lawlor supplies this publicity shot for his own concerts and productions, and under US law, it is certainly fair use, but I don't know how to save it under the silly Wikipedia image rules. If you think you can save it, by all means challenge the speedy delete. -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:51, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

 Done Image has been kept for now, maybe my comment has helped it. A donation of the picture by the copyright owner would of course be better. --Pgallert (talk) 20:15, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

L`Hospital

Per your closure of WP:Articles for deletion/Nipesh Adhikari; for some reason the title has a ` instead of a '. L`Hospital is the album; L'Hospital is the disambiguation page. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:50, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Lawlor (bass-baritone)

The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Harold Pupkewitz

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Help needed

{{helpme}} Template:Infobox on the page Wikipedia:School and university projects/Polytechnic of Namibia does not display the archived old course. What's wrong there? Thanks!! --Pgallert (talk) 12:07, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Fixed -- John of Reading (talk) 13:40, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, next time I know. --Pgallert (talk) 14:50, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

South West African Native Labour Association

Hi there, My time on Wikipedia has been very limited lately and I hope to be able to do more. I started South West African Native Labour Association just now and there is serious potential for growth. I have access to JSTOR and the source I cited already covers the organization extensively. Unfortunately, I simply do not have the time to do a serious expansion now, but I thought you might. I can e-mail you the PDF file to expand from if you like. Thanks!--TM 19:10, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi TM, I likewise do not have much time right now. There is no deadline, so let's just develop the stuff at the pace we can manage. When I set the red link on Saturday, I thought to myself, when will I ever have the time to write this article... thanks for putting something there. --Pgallert (talk) 10:29, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Ghana Police Service DYK

Thanks for the review so far. I think your ALT hook is good. Can you now accord my DYK the right tag ie Ready to go. Thanks once again. CrossTempleJay  talk 12:49, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

 Done Sorry for having been so difficult ;) --Pgallert (talk) 13:58, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
No need to apologize it is the same way I scrutinize the DYKs of others. Thanks for everything. I'm in Ghana and am seriously developing the content of the country on WP. I also have some DYKs still pending would be glad if you could pass your strict eyes through them. Namely:
  • Ghana Refugee Board
  • Ghana Prisons Service

Thanks once again.-- CrossTempleJay  talk 14:08, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

I did spot the new set of Ghana articles on DYK. Unfortunately my Internet connection currently is so slow that I have trouble editing the T:TDYK page. Also, I will be out on business travel soon and for this reason rather not start new reviews. We will definitely bump into each other again, keep up the good work! Pgallert (talk) 14:45, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
As an aside, I uploaded a few pictures from my visit to Accra last September:
I'll put up more once my data rate becomes better again. --Pgallert (talk) 15:34, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Peter Mweshihange

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Sebastian Kamwanga

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Hallo :) Ich hab für meine Bachelorarbeit [und die Präsentation ^^] das Poly-Logo mal durch einen SVG Generator gejagt. Das Resultat sieht (imho) etwas besser aus als das aktuell verwendete. Besteht da Interesse das Teil auszutauschen? Habs mal "illegalerweise" hochgeladen: http://www.refizul.de/dl/polytechnic_black_logo.svg MfG Sascha ( refizul -at- refizul.de ) (Man ist das schon wieder fast ein Jahr her :D) 91.1.190.78 (talk) 22:47, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Puh, ich werd mal fragen, aber Poly's Muehlen mahlen nicht gerade schnell. Sieht tatsaechlich besser aus, danke fuer die Muehe. Wann sieht man sich denn mal wieder? --Pgallert (talk) 07:40, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
Gute Frage. Ganz genau kann ich das noch nicht sagen. Leider hat man uns über den "Urlaub" die Studienreise in Namibia nicht informiert, so dass wir kurz vor deren Abreise hier oben vor vollendeten Tatsachen standen. Ansonsten wären wir schon wieder da gewesen zumal die Reise Fachbereichsfinanziert war, was ja bei unserer Bachelorarbeit nicht möglich war. Vielen Dank für die Antwort (und nochmal für den Support bei unserer Bachelorarbeit)! MfG Sascha ( refizul -at- refizul.de ) 193.174.70.30 (talk) 11:47, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Patricia Preece

Hello again. Would you kindly work your DYK magic again by nominating this new article created by me and User:Jack1956? The hook could be something like: ... that Patricia Preece persuaded artist Stanley Spencer to divorce his wife and sign his house over to her but never left her lesbian lover? Let me know if this is OK. Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:22, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

 Done, nominated. I added that he also married her. Hope that is okay. --Pgallert (talk) 12:49, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Great. I responded to your comment on the article's talk page. Please take a look. -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:02, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Oude Ram Afrikaner

Your source make allot of assumptions. See The Creation of Tribalism in Southern Africa The Afrikaner Bond and Dutch at the Cape started to use the name Afrikaner. The Boers only came into the "Afrikaner" picture when they were culturally assimilated into the Dutch-Afrikaner with the Union of South Africa in 1910. Wikipedia itself cites allot of sources supporting this fact. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Duwwel (talk • contribs) 09:18, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

I did not contest that Cape Dutch is better wording than Boer in this context. My concern was just that if the sources in a Wikipedia article support a certain fact in another article, than they should be cited directly, not via the Wikipedia article.
Usage of the surname Afrikaner is documented before 1800 for the clan founded by Oude Ram. The Cape Dutch started using it about 50-60 years later... that's exactly what I wanted to express in the article. I am aware that this claim is not uncontested but the sources, as it currently stands, support that version. If there are conflicting sources somewhere, all the better. Then the argument can be outlined in the article. Thanks for improving Oude Ram Afrikaner! Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 11:44, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Welcom back

Hope your trip was good. Anyway I have some work for you if you don't mind.

Thanks for the good wishes, it was an interesting trip to the MeerKAT radio telescope development site. Regarding the MYS: I took the freedom to combine the various one-paragraph sections for better readability. Should this be expanded in the future, the sections could be reinstated. You surely realised that most of this article rests on an unreliable source -- The Ministry's and the Government's web sites are not independent of the subject of that article. This is not a major issue; Ministries are of course notable and DYK does not require an independent source for their hooks, but in the future it would be good to add secondary sources to back up the statements in the article. Good job developing the Ghana articles! --Pgallert (talk) 18:42, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

My RfA

I just wanted to take a minute to thank you very much for supporting me in my recent RfA. Even though it was unsuccessful, I appreciate your trust. With much gratitude, jsfouche ☽☾Talk 02:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Hermanus van Wyk

Calmer Waters 00:45, 8 June 2011 (UTC) 12:03, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Preece

Pls see your Preece DYK nom.BarkingMoon (talk) 10:53, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

It's now in a prep set but Tony'd made a comment about maybe adding a ref for the statement about being one of a group of models. BarkingMoon (talk) 12:11, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, it took me a while to get the point you're likely raising: That her modeling for Spencer is only mentioned in the hook lead, and not referenced there. I'll take this up with the writers of the Preece article on the talk page of Patricia Preece. We still have a day until scheduling for DYK, that should be sufficient to fix this minor concern. --Pgallert (talk) 09:07, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I have added more information about the nude portraits in the body of the article, with a cite. I also modified footnote 11 to clarify that it's all about Preece. Let me know if you have any other questions. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:34, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Looks good. BarkingMoon (talk) 23:32, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Patricia Preece

Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for nominating. It got 5,300 views, so I put it on DYKstats. -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:16, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Fantastic! With Namibia topics I have never achieved that, no matter how quirky the hook or how beautiful the picture was :( --Pgallert (talk) 07:47, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
It very rarely, if ever, occurs in the musical theatre articles I'm involved with. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 12:52, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Chaetopterus variopedatus

Thank you for reviewing my article. I have suggested an alternative DYK hook here. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:11, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

John ya Otto Nankudhu

I suggested a different DYK hook. A bit long, but it links a terrorist in 1968 to a state burial in 2011, which may work. Aymatth2 (talk) 18:42, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Seal culling and tourism

Dear Pgallert,

I can see that seal culling should perhaps not feature in the main article on Namibia. However, I strongly feel that it should at least be mentioned in the article on Tourism in Namibia, because many tourists go there to see the seals, and many people don't know about the 'culling'. If no one knows about it, how will they ever reach the article on seal 'hunting', which talks about Namibia, seeing as there is no link to it from the Tourism in Namibia page? For the sake of the issue at hand, and the cruelty and barbarism of the practice, please at least put in a link as described. The only reason I can think of for not doing this is out of support for the 'cull' :/ especially as I have just noticed that you happen to live in Windhoek. Please allow someone from outside your country to make these decisions in cases where you may be biased. (I too am biased, because of the hideous cruelty, but I don't live there.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noodlenicky (talk • contribs) 12:41, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Dear Noodlenicky, that I live in Namibia does not mean I cannot edit articles on Namibia, in fact I am one of only two people regularly contributing. Seriously, to connect "tourism" with "seal culling" you need a reference, otherwise the slaughter of the seals belongs into Economy of Namibia (it makes a minimal contribution) or better Environmental issues in Namibia--unfortunately this article does not yet exist.
To employ an analogy, tourists visit the Waterberg and see a handful of German war graves there, not realising that more than 100,000 people were killed in the Herero and Namaqua Genocide which left those few soldiers dead. That's not a good reason to link the genocide from the Tourism article, either.
I have no particular opinion of whether to cull or not. I find the way cattle are killed, or pigs are castrated, or chicken are kept, not much nicer than that. That baby seals are cute does not change much for me. --Pgallert (talk) 13:04, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for John ya Otto Nankudhu

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

A kitten for you!


CrocodilesAreForWimps (talk) 19:41, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

very cute... What did I get it for? --Pgallert (talk) 19:48, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK nom for Malari incident

I've replied at T:TDYK and fixed the issues you have raised. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:03, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

I made further copyedits. Please check to make sure I got the meanings right. Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 08:56, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Quite impressive. I don't see any problems with the rewording; the diction is much more efficient. Sorry if I came accross a little terse at T:TDYK... it wasn't a pleasent surprise to log in and find a fiasco attached to my name at Wikipedia talk:Did You Know. I should probably have checked T:TDYK first. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:27, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
No worries. I noticed you would have a rough awakening this morning because I was following WT:DYK. Even if SG's commentary is pretty close to a personal attack (I certainly would have been offended), she is pushing into the right direction, I believe. Don't take it personal; almost any other DYK regular could, by accident, have been made the scapegoat for one night. Cheers, --Pgallert (talk) 10:14, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
True enough. Thanks for the help and support! Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:18, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Simon Kooper

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks so much for the quick response Pgallert. I'm a fairly experienced user. Not sure how I put that up. Also not sure why I couldn't understand the speedy delection area of help. Had me stumped. Thanks so much again. Transaus (talk) 11:48, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Joseph Gotthardt

PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:04, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK candidate

Would you like to nominate George Graves (actor)? The hook could be something like: "that although he could neither sing nor dance, George Graves became a leading comedian in operetta and Edwardian musical comedies." The info is in "Obituary, Mr. George Graves", The Times, 5 April 1949, p. 6 The info is also here: "The Comedy Old Man and His Troubles". The New York Times, 3 February 1907 in column 6. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:11, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

No problem, will do. Before I submit the nomination I have a question: I could not find a somewhat explicit expression that he was indeed a leading comedian. Did I overlook something, or does it just mean he's playing lead roles? --Pgallert (talk) 08:47, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
No, I mean that he was one of the top comedians of his day. He didn't usually play "lead" roles, in the sense that the "lead" roles were usually romantic roles, but he played the important comic roles, and he was chosen to play these roles in some of the longest-running and most successful musicals, pantomimes, revues and operettas of the day. Here is a song for Baron Popoff (a more modern recording), which was Graves' most famous role: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcXF60U-MEs Presumably, Graves more "spoke-sung" it than this guy. Graves was also a successful music hall and variety comedian. The Times obit supports this description, and I have clarified the text. Looks good? All the best! (please make sure that User:Tim riley gets credit as a creator of this article. Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:12, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Wlotzkasbaken

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for George Graves (actor)

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:05, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of the nomination, Pgallert! -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:30, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Cuban Friendship Urn

thanks for the review. you weren't at all combative. you would make a good fact checker for the New Yorker. however, i tend to see sources as shades of gray. when you have RS's disaggreeing, that's a nuance to capture, not weapon to disparage the RS. readers can make up their mind. i tend to be less promotional of new articles than say my colleague User:SarahStierch. regards. Slowking4: 7@1|x 16:14, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Gerhard Tötemeyer

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Spreetshoogte Pass

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:03, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK nom

Hi, I reviewed your Turnhalle Conference DYK nom here - basically I think there's just a minor issue of making the link between the desire of the South African government to quell armed resistance and the organization of the conference a bit more explicit.

Nice article. Volunteer Marek  11:20, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi Marek, thanks for your review. You would maybe want to change the hook ref tick into a grey one (AGF foreign source), as much of the hook claim still comes from the German paper. --Pgallert (talk) 14:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Yup, thanks. Volunteer Marek  14:12, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Namrights

Hi there, the page Namrights, formerly the National Society for Human Rights, has been prodded and deleted twice. The page is in poor upkeep and I am going to try to properly source it soon, but I thought I'd let you, another Namibia expert, have a chance too. Thanks!--TM 13:18, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi TM, I'm afraid the Namrights page is a copyvio and should be gone soon. I tagged it for speedy deletion. The other article by Wizardnam (talk · contribs) I was able to rescue: Phil ya Nangoloh. The reference there should provide some basic info also for Namrights.
BTW, I am currently battling with Turnhalle Constitutional Conference which you created three years ago. It still lacks a "Background" section (info on User:Pgallert/Independence of Namibia) and a better description of the aftermath, which should get it to DYK. Maybe you want to assist? --Pgallert (talk) 14:19, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Pgallert, I am unsure if I can get to editing now, but I'd love to see it on the main page when you do get it there. I noticed on the page that you claim both creation and expansion, which is of course not true. It doesn't really matter, but doing so means no one will notify me when it is a DYK. I'd appreciate it if you fixed this. Thanks--TM 14:35, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
I believe the forward slash means OR, but I changed it to reflect that only the expansion was done by me. I'm not sure you'll be notified or credited with that DYK (unless you want me to notify you); to achieve that both the creation and the expansion must be new. --Pgallert (talk) 06:58, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Turnhalle Constitutional Conference

Materialscientist (talk) 16:02, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

OccupyWallStreet

Having closed the AfD as A10, is there any reason why you didn't create a redirect from this heading to the existing article at Occupy Wall Street? I've just done so, both to help readers and to make it less likely that another duplicate article would be accidentally created at this title. PamD 12:30, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Uhm, no, I wasn't aware this should be done. Probably a good idea, thanks for helping. --Pgallert (talk) 14:09, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Namibia being absolutely hopeless at rugby

Hi

I noticed that you reversed my additions about Namibia being terrible at rugby. I would like to point out that Namibia has not won an International rugby game since November 2009 and so my points were completely valid. The only team that Namibia ever beats is their own B team, if you would like a reference you can look at the following page: http://www.rugbydata.com/namibia/gamesplayed

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiMasterSlayer (talk • contribs) 09:45, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I did not question your assertion that they have never won a game in World Cups. My revert is based on the following points:
  1. Namibia indeed is the worst of all Rugby World Cup participants. That they are "absolutely hopeless" I would not say because they qualified for the World Cup. Do you want to write that Germany is even more hopeless than Namibia? They did not qualify in the first place.
  2. Even if they were absolutely hopeless, this assertion would require a more neutral wording to be suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, and a reliable, independent reference. To conclude it from their 87-0 result against South Africa is original research and negative reporting.
  3. In a country overview the assertion, in whatever wording, is totally out of place. Namibia is really, really hopeless in a lot of sports. Just this week a seventy-year-old woman won the national table tennis championship (male), a two-times national chess champion does not have an international rating, and in many other sports there is not even any sort of national team, or even competition. This situation, if it can be reliably sourced, can be reflected in a few sentences stating that sport is not very important on the national agenda, but it can surely not be described by Namibia is hopeless at Rugby, as your edit did.
Hope this clarifies my revert. Brgds, Pgallert (talk) 11:00, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

New articles

Do you think either of these is worth nominating at DYK?:

  1. McCaull Comic Opera Company. I started this article, but I have no idea what a good hook would be. Maybe that the company produced the American premiere of The Queen's Lace Handkerchief at the newly rebuilt Casino Theatre in 1882?
  2. May Yohé was a very interesting actress. Although she owned the Hope Diamond, she died in poverty. Her most famous moment in the theatre was creating the title role in the 1894 London hit Little Christopher Columbus. User:Jfbarlow created the article, and I helped with some research, formatting, etc.

All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:46, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Ouch, already the last day to nominate them, and I have a tight schedule today... will see what I can do. If you can, please give me a bit more time in the future. --Pgallert (talk) 07:00, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about the timing! -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:07, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

 Done, a few hours before the deadline. I combined the two articles because I could not find a catchy hook for the opera company. Reviewers will likely request that the paragraph The Second Marriage in May Yohé be referenced. If the image is taken, it will need ALT text. I would be grateful if you could write that ALT text, as my English is too bumpy for smooth reading. Beautiful and interesting work, as usual! --Pgallert (talk) 20:27, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. It is already referenced - the section (four paragraphs) is all one long direct quote, as noted at the beginning of the section. -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:10, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
Ah, okay. I saw the footnote under the last paragraph and the introduction of the first. Wasn't aware the citation spans all three. --Pgallert (talk) 06:43, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for May Yohé

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for McCaull Comic Opera Company

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Briefing of students

I am writing about the importance of adequate briefing of students on your project, to avoid disappointment and frustration to the students as well as disruption to Wikipedia. As an admin dealing with the speedy-deletion queue, I have encountered a string of problems recently with the WP:India Education Program, particularly with copyright violations and with students posting articles long before they are ready. I believe that most of these problems could have been avoided by better briefing of the students: see Wikipedia talk:India Education Program#Queries from the Wikipedia community for a rant on the subject.

Having written that rant yesterday, I was alarmed that one of the first pages I had to delete this morning was a straight copy of http://www.informante.web.na/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8801&Itemid=100 on the user page of one of your students. I have given him a welcome message and advice at User talk:Ndapanda terror, but I am now writing to ask you to be sure that all your students are properly briefed. The two vital points are

but the list in my note to the India program was only slightly tongue-in-cheek and could serve as a checklist.

I hope this message is unnecessary, but having spent a good deal of time on Indian problems lately, I was concerned when I found another copyvio and saw the number of students on your project. I wish it all the best; I would offer to help, but unfortunately in two days I am going away for a couple of weeks.

Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:51, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi JohnCD, and thank you for the message. The situation is that I did brief the students, multiple times, in several lectures. The points you list are two of three focal points of my presentations and live demonstrations (the third is referencing). Unfortunately not every student pays the required attention. With 200+ participants in this course it is not easy to reach everybody, and the 9 practical lecturers assigned to this course are all absolute beginners on Wikipedia, no matter how senior they might be as lecturers. This might be somewhat disappointing for you, but in a country with a grand total of one resident WP editor this is the starting point.
I do apologise for the extra work our project is causing for the admin corps. I am frequently browsing the list of contributions on Wikipedia:School and university projects/Polytechnic of Namibia-- unfortunately I do not have the time to go through other contributions of the students, and I see no practical way of finding accounts that do belong to the course, but haven't signed on the project page. To compile a list of accounts requested from Namibian IP addresses would require CU access and very probably violate policy.
There are, however, many positive contributions, and the coverage of Namibia on WP would not be where it is today without it. Please be patient with us; we'll be getting there. --Pgallert (talk) 14:44, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

✰

The Original Barnstar
For a history of solid work. JORGENEV 02:45, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
I cannot remember where we might have been running into each other. Anyway, thanks a lot! --Pgallert (talk) 17:39, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Never you mind that... Anyways, P., you are most welcome! JORGENEV 20:47, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Turnhalle (Windhoek)

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

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re Hotel Arctic DYK

(At Template:Did you know nominations/Hotel Arctic (Murmansk)).

Hi, thanks much for looking at this. A little slow, but I've addressed your issues, I think. Herostratus (talk) 09:43, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Hans Spialek

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Aussenkehr

--v/r - TP 01:34, 15 November 2011 (UTC) 08:09, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Wiki Conference India

Hello, I have removed all the plagiarism. Only the Tag need to be removed. I am suggesting a hook here, please consider if it is possible. ALT...that the three day wiki conference is running from 18th November to 20th of November in Mumbai University, Mumbai, India. If you are online please try it ASAP. We don't have much time. Thank you. -- aηsuмaη :) ༽Ϟ 07:14, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for the delay, I had a busy day. Should be fine now. --Pgallert (talk) 14:34, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Manasse ǃNoreseb

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Hoachanas

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:03, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Red Nation, Namibia

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:03, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Conrad Tao

PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:04, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

A nice little article

Hello, Pgallert. I see that User:Tim riley has just created a very nice little article on Hans Spialek. Would you like to nominate it for DYK? It would have an excellent hook, like "... that Hans Spialek, after studying music while a Russian prisoner of war during World War I, orchestrated 147 American musicals." All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:30, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

 Done Unfortunately a hook without picture, as the one in the article is fair use. I assumed from your wording that you do not consider yourself a co-author? Otherwise I could easily include you for the extensive copyedits. Regards! Pgallert (talk) 20:10, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
That looks great. Yes, Tim should get the sole credit for this. -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:53, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Here's a new one if you like: "... that piano prodigy Conrad Tao, at age 12, was featured on the PBS TV series From the Top at Carnegie Hall."

As usual, feel free to change the hook if you like! -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:53, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Will do. I feel that the variety of his talent is more impressive than the mere fact that he was featured. --Pgallert (talk) 16:03, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 Done at Template:Did you know nominations/Conrad Tao. Feel free to comment on the hook. --Pgallert (talk)

They haven't put Tao on DYK yet. Do you think it'll be passed over? Thanks for nominating! -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:15, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

There is currently a tremendous backlog at DYK. Reviewers now need to check plagiarism from basically all online sources that are linked, and that takes time. Tao hasn't even been reviewed yet, but if we nag about it, some other article will be delayed. I wouldn't panic. They're not going to delete it from the nom page unless it has been negatively reviewed, and unless seven days have passed without progress. BTW, next week Mon-Fri I'll be out. If something comes up at DYK, it would be good if you could answer it. Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 17:07, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
You were right. They got to it. Have a good trip! -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:22, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

CSD notification

The page User:Fillipusmotm/Namibia first to include protection of the environment in its constitution looks like it may be a valid CSD, but I prefer not to delete a page unless the creator has been notified. I understand that sometimes automated tools fail to do the notification for some reason. Not sure if that was the case, but could you make the notification?SPhilbrickT 15:04, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi Sphilbrick, sorry, I had to log out after tagging and forgot to notify. Will leave a short notice with User:Fillipusmotm. --Pgallert (talk) 06:57, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for Michael Hishikushitja

Orlady (talk) 15:14, 1 December 2011 (UTC) 16:03, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Fröbelstern

more seasonal

Hallo, vielen Dank für den Ausbau des Artikels. Frohe Feiertage wünscht Catfisheye (talk) 13:21, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Danke, beste Wünsche auch von mir. Vielleicht kriegen wir den Artikel noch auf die Hauptseite, siehe hier. --Pgallert (talk) 17:38, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Ich vermute, das ist nicht reliable genug, andererseits ist es ziemlich triviales Wissen. Ein Buch zur "Fröbel-Pädagogik heute" dürfte sicher Aufsätze zu den Spielgaben, zu denen die Faltschule gehörte und somit auch der Fröbelstern[1] enthalten, ist ja das bekannteste Überbleibsel seiner Pädagogik, die auch mit ihm assoziiert wird, aber ich bin schon beim Packen, sonst würde ich nochmal die hiesige Bibliothek der pädagogischen Fakultät aufsuchen. :/ Herzlichen Gruß Catfisheye (talk) 18:22, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
  • The article is looking better, but we still have a couple more days to perfect it. I've asked User:Gerda Arendt (a DYK regular) if she can supply some sources. --Orlady (talk) 18:30, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
New topic for me! Never heard that word before, psst. But googled and found this which looks not too bad. I would drop the last line about being common and not many can make them. Obviously it's a kinderleichte Kindergartenssache for children age 5 and up. mention something about therapeutic effect - that man in paper 1. the history of the instructions - old book. creator of the word kindergarten. some serious source: Christine Lost: An Sternen lernen. Zur Geschichte von „Fröbelstern“ und „Hernnhuter Stern“. In: Pädagogisches Forum 30/6 (2002), S. 414–418. next addressing children, next stars got to an exposition. ok? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:17, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Well I guess because a lot of Germans brought up in the western part of Germany had never visited a kindergarden, a lot of people do not know how to do it, although it is quite easy even folding it just by memory without an instruction. at least this would explain the difference between these statements. (thinking about it, we have done some even at grammar school and my father who works with special young adults is teaching it on a regular basis before christmas. but that is all OR.) Catfisheye (talk) 20:16, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Well, I visited a Kindergarten in the west of Germany, we did other things, I guess it depends on the teachers. Very nice pic! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:56, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Good new pic, but I would leave the other one in addition, smaller, because it shows the "construction better". I recommend one more heading such as "Description" for a better relation of lead and article, and I would put the "not many are able"- line (which I still don't like) in the description par, perhaps end history on that they make it to exhibition. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Pic question: the seasonal pic looks like showing 2 stars - which doesn't make it easier to see one. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:01, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks Orlady for helping out and putting Gerda's suggestions in. --Pgallert (talk) 17:27, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
Gerda, I do not see a second star... regarding the phrase about not many people can fold it, feel free to take it out. BTW, I managed to create a few of them but without instructions there would have been no way. Unfortunately we learned other things in kindergarten like how to sing socialist hymns, and how to wave self-crafted flags at political gatherings :-/ --Pgallert (talk) 17:27, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
If you're not opposed to it I would like to move the DYK to December 24 (from 25) because that's the traditional "core" Christmas day in Germany. --Pgallert (talk) 17:31, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

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