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07:37, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Wondering If you could help please

Hey mate I don't have much clue about computer programs however you went on a page and cleaned up some articles. Was wondering if you could help me the page in question still has this at he top and was wondering how to make it disappear?? This page is a new unreviewed article. This template should be removed once the page has been reviewed by someone other than its creator; if necessary the page should be appropriately tagged for cleanup. (July 2014) Page in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jordan_Macey&action=history&gettingStartedReturn=true

Either way it would be great to hear back from you . Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Et1983 (talkcontribs) 23:34, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

@Et1983: Hi. I reviewed the article. --Meno25 (talk) 12:58, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

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Menobot problem??

Are you running Menobot on #37, #6 and #16? If so, it is not fixing the error and just marking it as done. There might be a WPCleaner bug on #3 that causes this. Those weren't done by Menobot, but by another user running WPCleaner. Hmmmm. Bgwhite (talk) 07:42, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Problems in 16 they maybe related to code update recently. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:57, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

@Bgwhite and Magioladitis: Thank you both for your comments. I am stopping the bot from doing this task and I am reporting this issue. --Meno25 (talk) 11:12, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
Should be fixed for #16 with the update I made a few hours ago. If there are problems with other errors, tell me. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 16:42, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
NicoV Magioladitis Still doesn't explain why #6 and #37 were being marked as done, but not fixed. Bgwhite (talk) 20:53, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
Bgwhite, could you give me examples of articles that were marked as done but not fixed for #6 and #37 ? I took a look at a few #37 that have been marked as done, and either they were really fixed by WPCleaner (like Fröken Fräken or Günther's frog (disambiguation)), were fixed by someone else (like Adolfo Fernández) or I don't understand why they were detected for #37 (like 1971–72 New York Nets season or Emergency Afghan Allies Extension Act of 2014 (H.R. 5195; 113th Congress)). --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 22:01, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
NicoV For #37: Chris & Matt Kidd, 2014 Västmanland wildfire, Korea — Anti-Dumping Duties on Imports of Certain Paper from Indonesia and Blum & Poe
For #6: Gå & fiska! Bgwhite (talk) 22:15, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
Bgwhite
For #37, did you change the way it's handled by Check Wiki? As far as I can remember, #37 was only checking the first few characters of the title (it was 3 for a long time, and then was changed to 5 sometime ago). For all the examples you provided, the special character is after the fifth character, so it shouldn't have been picked up by #37.
For #6, the DEFAULTSORT that has been added by WPCleaner is "Ga & fiska!", which for me is ok. Which character is considered a special one by CW ? "&", "!" ?
--NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 08:47, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
NicoV For #37: Yes. Now we check the entire string. We should also warn Josve05a. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:38, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
NicoV For #6: I rename "&" to "and" and remove "!". -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:39, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
@Bgwhite and Magioladitis: Could you give me the list of characters that CW considers as normal characters? For WPCleaner, I'm currently using the following list: ASCII letters, digits, space and a few punctuation -:,.!?'&#/()*. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 08:10, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
@NicoV: certainly remove "&" from your list of normal characters. Check WP:SORTKEY. (rev 10367 to show example in AWB). -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:56, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
@NicoV: Oops, I thought this was answered, but I guess it isn't. Thanks to Magioladitis for telling me to answer it. This is complicated as it is based on language. Start to look at line 2088 on https://github.com/scfc/checkwiki/blob/pu/tools-migration/checkwiki.pl. Bgwhite (talk) 23:26, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

@Bgwhite and NicoV: So, per CHECKWIKI, in the English Wikipedia valid characters are ASCII letters, digits, space and -–:,.!?'/(). So I guess the main difference is "&#" and on the other side "en-dash" and "*". By the way, are we sure about en-dash? -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:32, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Officially in names, per WP:NAMESORT, Only hyphens, apostrophes and periods/full stops punctuation marks should be kept in sort values. All other punctuation marks should be removed. The only exception is the apostrophe should be removed for names beginning with O'
() is kept because of how Wikipedia names articles. I think !?: are inherited and I can't remember why these are listed.
If I remember right, en-dash was because there are just too many articles with it. But I'm not sure
I should add * to the list? Bgwhite (talk) 00:51, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
@Bgwhite and NicoV: I suggest that NicoV removes "&#" from the valid characters and we are done for now. We can still keep fixing endashes but no reason to list them all. Let's not remove "()!?:" from sortkeys for now. Bgwhite leave "*" detection. In fact, the only valid situation is when star is the at the beggining of the sortkey. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:01, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
@Bgwhite and Magioladitis: I've removed "&" from the valid characters. Do you have examples where "#" is causing trouble for #37 or the like? (as it's a character not really supposed to happen in article titles for technical reasons). --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 11:56, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
NicoV I have no example but you wrote that you have it in your whitelist. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:05, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
For enwiki, it has been the entire string since before I took over. For all other wikis, it is the first five characters. When it is being used by Magioladitis, I use an irrational, imaginary number or as I call it, a Magioladitis number. Bgwhite (talk) 00:29, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
@Bgwhite and Magioladitis: For #37, with this modification in the translation file, WPCleaner checks the entire title for special characters. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 07:13, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, FYI --> Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jan-Bart de Vreede. NoNavelGaving (talk) 18:21, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Please check this

Hi Meno, Please check this article: Ahmed Seada --Ibrahim.ID »» 19:39, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

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