User talk:Jhawi 3897

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Thanks Liz, of course I will decide to stay!! @Liz Jhawi 3897 (talk) 20:18, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia: check out the Teahouse![edit]

Hello! Jhawi 3897, you are invited to the Teahouse, a forum on Wikipedia for new editors to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, and get support from peers and experienced editors. Please join us! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:54, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: PS6 (December 1)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Ingenuity was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

As I stated before, this is pure speculation and it is too soon for an article on this topic.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:PS6 and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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— Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 01:34, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Responding to an ongoing discussion[edit]

@Jhawi 3897, Wikipedia's discussion pages, (e.g., the Teahouse, Articles for deletion, Image talk pages) do not really welcome advice and opinions from newer editors, particularly chitchat-type input like "Yes", "I strongly agree" or "How do you play this game". Such input creates a distraction for other editors and may require them to remove your remarks. See WP:TALK. Quisqualis (talk) 05:46, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Quisqualis I think I'm going to leave wikipedia, the only thing I'm trying to do is make some "wikifriends" that can help me become a good editor, now the only thing I'm getting is things like "oh you did a bad, bad thing" and just all diffferent kinds of remarks that hurt my feelings. Why is this done here, aren't new wikipedians accepted?? This really hurts my feelings, especialy since I'm new here. Jhawi 3897 (talk) 13:37, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Where are the new editors like me go? We need some advice from the experts. Jhawi 3897 (talk) 13:38, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Teahouse is a good place to go and ask questions about Wikipedia, because many experienced users hang out there to provide answers. If you are not an experienced user, it's best to stick to asking questions and not answering them.

Yes, you're quite new, and just starting to learn how things work around here. Best to slow down. Start small. Read a lot, edit a little. 97.113.177.161 (talk) 13:53, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but when I went to the teahouse, as you can see in the message earlier, I am being told not to be there, they don't accept my adivce, or opinions!! What is going on? Jhawi 3897 (talk) 13:55, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you are new, but your edits to date have been in areas and actions where new editors tend to make mistakes. Examples: Submitting someone else's draft to AfC without asking them first or making any improvements to the draft before submitting; "Trouting" an editor; Adding non-useful comments at AfDs; Offering advice at Teahouse. I suggest you focus on improving existing articles by adding (or subtracting) content, with appropriate references and Edit summaries. Teahouse IS a place to ask questions and get useful answers. David notMD (talk) 14:03, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ohh, ok, so you are saying I should stay in teahouse and ask questions, but not edit too many articles? Jhawi 3897 (talk) 14:14, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@David notMD Also I did not know that "trouting" was a bad thing, I thought it was something fun to tease someone with. Jhawi 3897 (talk) 14:15, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Editing articles is fine – that's the best way to start! Creating new articles is really hard, though. Unfortunately many new editors think that creating new articles is what Wikipedia is all about, and when they try to do it they have their drafts declined multiple times or their articles deleted, which is no fun at all. As David NotMD says, adding sourced information to existing articles, or improving articles in other ways, is a better thing to focus on. Maybe you'd find the tutorial for new users helpful? Best, --bonadea contributions talk 21:21, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

FYI - You are free to delete stuff from your Talk page. (Doing so acknowledges you have read it.) Some people leave everything, others archive, some delete everything. Even if deleted, it still exists when an editor looks at View history for your Talk page, but not seen if they just look at the Talk page. David notMD (talk) 18:16, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ok @David notMD thanks for telling me!! ☮🐸 JOE€Đ𝒾ⓣ𝐒𝔀𝐢𝔨ιρ𝒆Đ𝒾Δ ☝🎄 (talk) 18:39, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Aberaam Varma (December 1)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Bonadea was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

In the current version of the draft, there isn't a single source that shows notability for Varma.

no 1 is a press release
no 2 and 3 are movie reviews that mention his name in passing
no 4 is a short, promotional/paid piece in Times of India (which is not a reliable source for actor biographies anyway)
no 5 doesn't mention Varma's name and has no connection to him; it is an interview with the director of a movie he appeared in (misleadingly described in the draft as "his movie")
no 6 is an advert for a song sung in a movie Varma appeared in – and again, he isn't mentioned
no 7 is a press release.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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bonadea contributions talk 20:32, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Advice for younger users[edit]

You may find some good advice at Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors. Stay safe! Quisqualis (talk) 21:57, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]