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Tech News: 2024-15[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Web browsers can use tools called extensions. There is now a Chrome extension called Citation Needed which you can use to see if an online statement is supported by a Wikipedia article. This is a small experiment to see if Wikipedia can be used this way. Because it is a small experiment, it can only be used in Chrome in English.
- A new Edit Recovery feature has been added to all wikis, available as a user preference. Once you enable it, your in-progress edits will be stored in your web browser, and if you accidentally close an editing window or your browser or computer crashes, you will be prompted to recover the unpublished text. Please leave any feedback on the project talk page. This was the #8 wish in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
- Initial results of Edit check experiments have been published. Edit Check is now deployed as a default feature at the wikis that tested it. Let us know if you want your wiki to be part of the next deployment of Edit check. [1][2]
- Readers using the Minerva skin on mobile will notice there has been an improvement in the line height across all typography settings. [3]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 April. It will be on all wikis from 11 April (calendar). [4][5]
- New accounts and logged-out users will get the visual editor as their default editor on mobile. This deployment is made at all wikis except for the English Wikipedia. [6]
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi HouseBlaster. I've re-written copy for the x wikipedia page. The company has changed significantly since the original copy was created, as has the product offering. I have two questions. 1: because there are so many changes, is it best to submit the copy for review first? And 2: I would like to include the "about us" widget that often appears in the top right (on desktop) of a wikipedia page. How do I go about doing this? With thanks in advance! Jess --JessZoiti (talk) 04:40, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi JessZoiti, and welcome to Wikipedia! First, I have to ask are you being paid to edit Wikipedia and/or promote GLX Digital? If so, you are required by the Terms of Use to disclose the conflict of interest (see the paid editor disclosure instructions for information about how to do this).
I am not sure what you mean by the "about us" widget. Would you be able to point to a page with the "about us" widget, so I can see what you are talking about? HouseBlaster (he/him) 11:53, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- hi @HouseBlaster. Yes, I have an affiliation with the company. I'll check out the paid editor disclosure instructions today before updating and editing the copy. Once I've disclosed the conflict of interest, am I able to simply head into the page and edit it, or should I send copy for review first?
- Regarding the "about us" widget, I'm referring t the infobox that appears at the top of many pages. As an example, see the IONQ wikipedia page. (IonQ)
- Thanks! Looking forward to your responses. JessZoiti (talk) 00:55, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi JessZoiti. First, you should upload your changes to your sandbox. I have gone ahead and copied the current version of the article into your sandbox, so you can make the changes you need. From your sandbox in edit mode, you should be able to click on the very small infobox in the right corner, and from there you should be able to edit it to include all the relevant information. Then, you should follow the instructions at the Edit Request Wizard to request an independent editor review the changes. You can delete the "What I think should be changed", "Why it should be changed", and "References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button)" bullet points that will pop up and replace them with something "
please sync with my sandbox, because [reason your version is better / list of general changes you made / etc.]
". To include an infobox, simply include one in your sandbox version of the article. Best, HouseBlaster (he/him) 01:13, 15 April 2024 (UTC)- Thank you @HouseBlaster! I'll give it a go. JessZoiti (talk) 02:36, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Another query @HouseBlaster, I'm trying to upload a logo to the infobox. The instructions ask users to "Upload a wordmark/logo graphic using the organization logo upload form". Where do I find this form, please? Again, thanks for your help. JessZoiti (talk) 03:25, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Another query @HouseBlaster, I'm trying to upload a logo to the infobox. The instructions ask users to "Upload a wordmark/logo graphic using the organization logo upload form". Where do I find this form, please? Again, thanks for your help. JessZoiti (talk) 03:35, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- @JessZoiti: do you have a link to the logo? I can upload it for you, because you need to have made at least ten edits before you are able to upload images. HouseBlaster (he/him) 03:37, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- I also have to ask you to complete the steps at the paid editor disclosure before proceeding any further. This is a requirement under the Terms of Use for Wikipedia. HouseBlaster (he/him) 03:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry @HouseBlaster! I was going to publish the disclaimer once I'd wrapped my head around how to edit. Apologies. All done now! How do I send you the link to the logo? Thank you. JessZoiti (talk) 03:43, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- JessZoiti, don't worry! As long as you did it . Just paste the link to a webpage with the logo (e.g. the company website) here and tell me which thing is actually the logo. Best, HouseBlaster (he/him) 03:47, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.glxdigital.com/
- Thank you! Legend. Apologies for being such a rookie! The logo is the GLX Digital logo in the top left. JessZoiti (talk) 03:50, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- JessZoiti, don't worry! As long as you did it . Just paste the link to a webpage with the logo (e.g. the company website) here and tell me which thing is actually the logo. Best, HouseBlaster (he/him) 03:47, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry @HouseBlaster! I was going to publish the disclaimer once I'd wrapped my head around how to edit. Apologies. All done now! How do I send you the link to the logo? Thank you. JessZoiti (talk) 03:43, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you @HouseBlaster! I'll give it a go. JessZoiti (talk) 02:36, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi JessZoiti. First, you should upload your changes to your sandbox. I have gone ahead and copied the current version of the article into your sandbox, so you can make the changes you need. From your sandbox in edit mode, you should be able to click on the very small infobox in the right corner, and from there you should be able to edit it to include all the relevant information. Then, you should follow the instructions at the Edit Request Wizard to request an independent editor review the changes. You can delete the "What I think should be changed", "Why it should be changed", and "References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button)" bullet points that will pop up and replace them with something "
- JessZoiti, uploaded at File:GLX Digital logo.svg. HouseBlaster (he/him) 03:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- @HouseBlaster thank you. JessZoiti (talk) 03:59, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- @HouseBlaster thank you! JessZoiti (talk) 04:12, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- @JessZoiti: just to let you know, I am heading to bed soon, so I won't be able to respond until the morning (local time). If you need more urgent help, feel free to ask at the Teahouse, a general-purpose area for newbies to ask questions. Of course, if your question can wait, I will be back tomorrow! HouseBlaster (he/him) 04:14, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- I hope you slept well @HouseBlaster! Hopefully one last question. I'm concerned my changes in the sandbox aren't saving. There is no 'save changes' button, only 'review changes' and 'publish changes'. If I hit publish, will the changes only be reflected in the sandbox environment, or will they update the actual company page in Wikipedia? JessZoiti (talk) 05:42, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- @JessZoiti: just to let you know, I am heading to bed soon, so I won't be able to respond until the morning (local time). If you need more urgent help, feel free to ask at the Teahouse, a general-purpose area for newbies to ask questions. Of course, if your question can wait, I will be back tomorrow! HouseBlaster (he/him) 04:14, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
To answer your question[edit]
That would be me botching a manual archiving of my talkpage. Appreciate your catching that. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- @The Blade of the Northern Lights: I figured it was something like that! Best, HouseBlaster (he/him) 03:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
This is regarding the merge of Category:Food deities into Category:Agricultural_deities. The Hindu goddess Annapurna (goddess) is the goddess of food, but is unrelated to Agriculture. Phosop is the goddess of rice, not agriculture in general. Mellona is the goddess of apples. Merge is not appropriate in these situations. Since the discussion is closed, Please suggest on appeal. Redtigerxyz Talk 05:54, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Redtigerxyz: I will relist the discussion. Best, HouseBlaster (he/him) 16:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi! thanks for mentoring. I was wondering about the nature of wikipedia telling me i have to wait a few minutes to edit due to it suspecting I might be a bot, and the associated ReCaptcha tests it has me performing. Do these just go away after so many edits? can I verify I am human in any other way besides providing an email? --ReddlSKye (talk) 19:14, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- @ReddlSKye: hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! After your account has existed for 4 days, you will be "autoconfirmed", at which point you will no longer have to perform a Captcha. (You also to make at least 10 edits to be autoconfirmed, but you already have met that criterion.) HouseBlaster (he/him) 19:57, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Where is the appropriate talk page for me to comment on the decision to rename autistic wikipedians to wikipedians with autism[edit]
Uchiha Itachi 25 (talk) 23:24, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Uchiha Itachi 25: depends what you want to say. If you just have general thoughts about the rename, you should probably keep them to yourself (per WP:NOTBLOG). If you think I misjudged the consensus in the discussion, you can leave a comment here (i.e. on my talk page), and I will consider your objection. If you are unsatisfied with my response, you can open a thread at deletion review. Alternatively, you may also place a request at WP:AN to ask an administrator to overturn my closure if you feel it was wildly off-base (emphasis on the "wildly" part: I sincerely doubt an admin will be willing to overturn my close without discussion, but it is an option you have. I have listed it for the sake of completeness). If no other place seems appropriate, you can leave a comment at Category talk:Autistic Wikipedians. (I will also note that the rename was from Category:Wikipedians with autism to Category:Autistic Wikipedians, not the other way around.) HouseBlaster (he/him) 23:45, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the thorough reply, and especially for correcting me with regard to the nature of the rename itself, as my misunderstanding of that was the entire root of my concern. Uchiha Itachi 25 (talk) 04:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-16[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- Between 2 April and 8 April, on wikis using Flagged Revisions, the "Reverted" tag was not applied to undone edits. In addition, page moves, protections and imports were not autoreviewed. This problem is now fixed. [7][8]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 April. It will be on all wikis from 18 April (calendar). [9][10]
- Default category sort keys will now affect categories added by templates placed in footnotes. Previously footnotes used the page title as the default sort key even if a different default sort key was specified (category-specific sort keys already worked). [11]
- A new variable
page_last_edit_age
will be added to abuse filters. It tells how many seconds ago the last edit to a page was made. [12]
Future changes
- Volunteer developers are kindly asked to update the code of their tools and features to handle temporary accounts. Learn more.
- Four database fields will be removed from database replicas (including Quarry). This affects only the
abuse_filter
andabuse_filter_history
tables. Some queries might need to be updated. [13]
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Comment on the latest citation for Justin Morrell[edit]
Hello HouseBlaster,
A recent citation for Justin Morrill in the Turner bio has gotten my attention. Nowhere in the bio is there mention of Turner being the "father of the Land grant system". Earlier in helping to create the bio for Wikipedia, I mentioned all the letters asking for Jonathan Baldwin's help and creating an educational system in the 1830's,1840's onward and then he gave a speech about the plan for industrial colleges in 1851. There's a lot of evidence to show that this man was an early voice for the land grant and so recognized by the majority of citations and reading I did for the past two months. This is evident with the numbers of citations throughout the bio. I see that it is not necessary to add a citation calling Justin Murrell, the father of the land grant system. So to give Justin credit, and indeed, he was a great man, a reference like this one:
- Parker, William B. (1971). The Life and Public Services of Justin Smith Morrill. New York: Da Capo Press. 378 pp.
would be more appropriate. I consider Justin Morrell to be the father of the legislation for the grant system. Definitely heard the voices in Illinois that were loud and strong about the grant system. He did not do this totally on his own other than adapt. A plan that was probably laid out by Turner. whatever the case, I would like this citation removed, and the other one put in this place, which describes Morrill's life and political journey! This particular citation is much more neutral and appropriate to be put in Jonathan Baldwin Turner's article! Thank you for your understanding on this, and you have said that Wikipedia does its best to remain neutral. Here's an opportunity for you to balance the scales again! I will always be looking into the bio to see what's been added!
Thank you for your consideration!
Creative Lizzie Creative Lizzie (talk) 17:15, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Creative Lizzie: the current citation is to a peer-reviewed journal. I would be happy to add an additional citation to that sentence, but I see no reason to remove a citation just because it is critical of Turner's contribution to the land grant system. Articles are supposed to give the whole story, not the story which paints the subject in the best light. HouseBlaster (he/him) 17:33, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- I really find this unreasonable when you have taken the history out that supports Jonathan Baldwin Turner being the father of the land grant system and keep this one link added. You will find that the majority of the Internet agrees with me about the title. So I couldn't make a comment about Jonathan being considered the father of the Land Grant System but yet you have added a citation, making Morrill the father of the land system. I think I would've been fine with that if you had clearly stated that JBT was also called the father of the Land Grant System. After all, he gave a speech in 1851 which clearly laid out the idea, continue to be the voice of idea long before Morrell was in the picture. The majority of the citations or information out there clearly points to a lot of views around the country stating JBT was the father of the LGS. I can see you adding another view but only if it was clearly stated in JBT's bio. So, seeing this I should be able to put a citation in by Jonathan Baldwin Turner in the Morrill bio that shows Jonathan Baldwin Turner has been known as the father of the Land grant system. To me, it makes perfect sense and is perfectly neutral. As you have just said that it's important to give the whole story and information for both sides. Right? Creative Lizzie (talk) 18:28, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Should I make a list of writers around the country who say Turner is the father of the land grant system. Also, I would like to put in a citation for Turner in the Morrill. What goes around comes around in this situation! (Eddie Stone, 1974) Creative Lizzie (talk) 18:32, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- This is an article for someone in Oregon who wrote a good summary of what I think is has some truth...https://cropandsoil.oregonstate.edu/sites/agscid7/files/land-grant_0.pdf Creative Lizzie (talk) 18:56, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- It seems like many of the higher education writers or colleges are definitely more in support of Jonathan Baldwin Turner. Both of the men, Morrell and Turner were stars at the time however, Morrill came from money, and that is a much easier way to go than coming up from a rocky farm. That may not have anything to do with anything, but Lincoln was the same way. I think most educators see Jonathan more positively and truthfully in the view of the land grant system. There are two views for me is that Justin Morrill had to work very hard getting the bills through Congress and is the Father of the Land Grant Legislation. At that time, Turner had Lincoln's ear and was lobbying the Land grant issue long before Morrill presented the bill. It is also said that Turner heavily influenced Lincoln to be an abolitionist because he wasn't an abolitionist from the start. He was probably trying to find middle ground on slavery. A lot of what I said, is supported by citations. Creative Lizzie (talk) 19:05, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Creative Lizzie: You should not make a list of writers, because that would be original research. You are welcome to suggest a source be added to the article on Morrill. You should not add it personally, because you have a clear conflict of interest. HouseBlaster (he/him) 18:56, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Once again, just the fact, you added Morrill as a father of the land grant system with this citation in the Turner bio is a ? I feel a lopsided thinking on this. Also in the Morrill bio, there is no mention of him being the father of the Land grant system in his bio. So put in a citation like this with that title is a point of view. Also, there is no mention of Jonathan Baldwin Turner's lobbying for the industrial land grant schools before even probably heard of it. Neutrality is a double edge sword.
- I will make citation suggestions for the land grant act with Turner being the lobbyist and send them to you. Turner actually went beyond the lobbying, speeches and wrote a plan for the grant system put it down on paper.
- I see these things as a historian, and not necessarily an ancestor. Yet I am happy the bio in there just trying to see how you balance truth. Creative Lizzie (talk) 19:22, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- However, if I can eventually get the boulder photo in the bio that will help the balance. Creative Lizzie (talk) 19:24, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- This is book that clearly gives Turner credit for the lobby and formulation of the plan. Should be placed by the land grant act in Morrill's bio. Sadly JBT is not mentioned at all and there is too much complete credit given to Morrill.
- https://archive.org/stream/originoflandgran00jame/originoflandgran00jame_djvu.txt Creative Lizzie (talk) 19:30, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- https://cropandsoil.oregonstate.edu/sites/agscid7/files/land-grant_0.pdf
- https://www.lib.niu.edu/1998/iht519842.html
- This one is in the Library of Congress----can't get better than this as a citation!can't get better than this as a citation!https://www.loc.gov/item/11001828/ Creative Lizzie (talk) 19:44, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- However, if I can eventually get the boulder photo in the bio that will help the balance. Creative Lizzie (talk) 19:24, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- This is an article for someone in Oregon who wrote a good summary of what I think is has some truth...https://cropandsoil.oregonstate.edu/sites/agscid7/files/land-grant_0.pdf Creative Lizzie (talk) 18:56, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Should I make a list of writers around the country who say Turner is the father of the land grant system. Also, I would like to put in a citation for Turner in the Morrill. What goes around comes around in this situation! (Eddie Stone, 1974) Creative Lizzie (talk) 18:32, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- I really find this unreasonable when you have taken the history out that supports Jonathan Baldwin Turner being the father of the land grant system and keep this one link added. You will find that the majority of the Internet agrees with me about the title. So I couldn't make a comment about Jonathan being considered the father of the Land Grant System but yet you have added a citation, making Morrill the father of the land system. I think I would've been fine with that if you had clearly stated that JBT was also called the father of the Land Grant System. After all, he gave a speech in 1851 which clearly laid out the idea, continue to be the voice of idea long before Morrell was in the picture. The majority of the citations or information out there clearly points to a lot of views around the country stating JBT was the father of the LGS. I can see you adding another view but only if it was clearly stated in JBT's bio. So, seeing this I should be able to put a citation in by Jonathan Baldwin Turner in the Morrill bio that shows Jonathan Baldwin Turner has been known as the father of the Land grant system. To me, it makes perfect sense and is perfectly neutral. As you have just said that it's important to give the whole story and information for both sides. Right? Creative Lizzie (talk) 18:28, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
@Creative Lizzie: there is no requirement that sources be unbiased. In fact, our policy says
reliable sources are not required to be neutral, unbiased, or objective
. We are not going to add a citation to Justin S. Morrill just because a "biased" source is in Jonathan Baldwin Turner. That is not how this works.I am going to be blunt. When I became a mentor, I signed up to answer questions about how Wikipedia works. I did not volunteer to pour over sources on your behalf, because you did not follow the conflict of interest guidelines and did not use the sandbox. I did not volunteer to determine who actually deserved credit for the LGS. I did not volunteer for spending hours of rechecking citations created by an editor with a conflict of interest. I say this not to make you feel bad. I am just saying that before you accuse me of being unreasonable, you should consider how much I have done to assist you in getting this article along. I have enjoyed doing much of the work we have done together. But it stops being enjoyable when someone with a conflict of interest decides that an article is biased because of a single citation. You are throwing all these citations at me, trying to see which citations "stick". I have been extraordinarily patient with you, but I am not required to satisfy you with my answer. HouseBlaster (he/him) 20:33, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, you have been extraordinarily kind and patient ........ I do want you to know that. I have become too much of a perfectionist and this is why I am backing out for now. I understand how you feel about this because after all, you are the editor and have to adhere to Wikipedia rules and your own personal opinions. I am tough and I know it. I wonder where I got that from? Once again, I am grateful to have the bio up and so thank you for all of your energy with me. There will be no more citation balls thrown! I am out of the ballpark for now. Happy hitting lots of home runs! Creative Lizzie (talk) 16:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi again Mentor. I'd like to touch back on the "Autoconfirm" thing. I've been editing with my account for 5 days, yet I have no access to edit any articles with that prerequisite, and, more importantly to me, I'm still being pelted with ReCaptchas and "can't do this action too many times, please wait" messages. Can you give me any advice as to why this is happening? I also, as you noted earlier, have more than 10 edits to my account.
Thanks, and have a good one! --ReddlSKye (talk) 12:55, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- @ReddlSKye: hi again! The software is looking for exactly four days – in other words, it looks for 96 hours. Your account was created at 17:38 UTC, and it is currently 13:02 UTC. You will be autoconfirmed in 4.5 hours. Let me know if you have any other questions, HouseBlaster (he/him) 13:03, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Question from Damian Garth Brown (02:59, 19 April 2024)[edit]
Hello, How do I add pictures/images to the page? --Damian Garth Brown (talk) 02:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Damian Garth Brown: hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! What encyclopedia article do you want to add an image to? I will not that we are not a place to put a resume, so in general pages like your current user page are frowned upon. Best, HouseBlaster (he/him) 13:12, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Category:Transgender genocide[edit]
You closed as delete but it still hasn't been deleted. (t · c) buidhe 18:31, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Buidhe: hi! It is currently listed at WT:CFDW, where an admin will process it eventually. Best, HouseBlaster (he/him) 20:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2024-17[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Starting this week, newcomers editing Wikipedia will be encouraged to try structured tasks. Structured tasks have been shown to improve newcomer activation and retention. [14]
- You can nominate your favorite tools for the fifth edition of the Coolest Tool Award. Nominations will be open until May 10.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 April. It will be on all wikis from 25 April (calendar). [15][16]
Future changes
- This is the last warning that by the end of May 2024 the Vector 2022 skin will no longer share site and user scripts/styles with old Vector. For user-scripts that you want to keep using on Vector 2022, copy the contents of Special:MyPage/vector.js to Special:MyPage/vector-2022.js. There are more technical details available. Interface administrators who foresee this leading to lots of technical support questions may wish to send a mass message to your community, as was done on French Wikipedia. [17]
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Books & Bytes – Issue 62[edit]
The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 62, March – April 2024
- IEEE and Haaretz now available
- Let's Connect Clinics about The Wikipedia Library
- Spotlight and Wikipedia Library tips
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --11:03, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Growth News, April 2024[edit]
The Growth team will now send quarterly reports to keep you in the loop. Growth team weekly updates are available on wiki (in English) if you want to know more about our day-to-day work.
If you want to receive more general updates about technical activity happening across the Wikimedia movement (including Growth work), we encourage you to subscribe to Tech News.
Community Configuration[edit]
Growth features are currently configurable at Special:EditGrowthConfig
. This quarter we are working on making Community Configuration accessible for other MediaWiki developers while also moving Growth feature configuration to the new CommunityConfiguration extension.
An early version of Community Configuration can be tested at Spanish Beta Wikipedia. We plan to release the new Community Configuration extension to pilot wikis (Arabic and Spanish Wikipedia) in early May, 2024. The first non-Growth team feature to utilize Community Configuration will be Automoderator.
In parallel with the development, the Growth team will propose Community Configuration usage guidelines, Community Configuration design guidelines, and provide technical documentation.
Experiment Results[edit]
Add a Image experiment analysis results
The Growth team conducted an experiment to assess the impact of the “Add an Image” structured task on the Newcomer Homepage's "Suggested Edits" module. This analysis finds that the Add an Image structured task leads to an increase in newcomer participation on the mobile web platform, particularly by making constructive (non-reverted) article edits:
- The likelihood that mobile web newcomers make their first article edit (+17.0% over baseline)
- The likelihood that they are retained as newcomers (+24.3% over baseline)
- The number of edits they make during their first two weeks on the wiki (+21.8% over baseline)
- A lower probability of the newcomers' edits will be reverted (-3.3% over baseline).
Personalized praise experiment results
This feature was developed for Mentors as part of the Growth team's Positive Reinforcement project. When A/B testing on Spanish Wikipedia, we found no significant impact on retention, but we found a significant positive impact on newcomer productivity. However, we concluded that the results weren’t positive enough to justify the time investment from Mentors. We plan to discuss this feature with our pilot wikis, and consider further improvements before scaling this feature further. Meanwhile, communities willing to test the feature can ask to have it deployed. (T361763)
English donors encouraged to try editing
As in previous years, donors were directed to a Thank you page after donation (example). However, this year we tested a new “Try editing Wikipedia,” call to action on the Thank You page. This call to action linked to a unique account creation page. From this account creation page we were able to track Registrations and Activation (editing for the first time). During the English banner campaign, the Donor Thank you page led to 4,398 new accounts, and 441 of those accounts went on to constructively edit within 24 hours. (T352900)
Future work[edit]
Annual Plan
The Growth team and the Editing team will work on the WE1.2 Key Result in the coming fiscal year. We will start initial discussions with communities soon to help finalize our plans. (T361657)
Newcomer Homepage Community Updates module
We plan to A/B test adding a new Community Configurable module to the Newcomer Homepage that will allow communities to highlight specific events, projects, campaigns, and initiatives. We are early in the planning phase of this project that will take place first at our pilot wikis and wikis volunteering. We welcome community feedback on initial designs and plans, in any language at our project talk page.
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18:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Partial undoing of a Cfd[edit]
Hey there. I came here because I realized made a slight mistake and since you closed the discussion I thought I should as you. In this discussion here about the Cleveland Guardian categories, I didn't mean to include the owners category as, even if the only the name changes, personnel category remains seperate for all team names regardless. So how do I undo the redirect there? Only that one, mind you. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:12, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: If I understand your question correctly, you want to reverse the direction of the redirect? If so, opening a fresh CfD and explaining your reasoning is the best way forward. Thanks, HouseBlaster (he/him) 17:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Just one of them. It was an oversight on my part. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:46, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I would nominate just the one category for renaming. Best, HouseBlaster (he/him) 19:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your help. Much appreciated. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I would nominate just the one category for renaming. Best, HouseBlaster (he/him) 19:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Just one of them. It was an oversight on my part. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:46, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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