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List of public art in Cardiff

Hi Ham,

The edit that I made to List of public art in Cardiff was my error. I have gone past that building countless time and never seen the statues and as the references are now dead links, this didn't help me. Closer examination confirmed that you were 100% correct and I was 100% incorrect...sorry. SethWhales talk 18:31, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

@Seth Whales: No worries – just shows how badly those references need updating, which I suppose I'll do one of these days... : ) Ham (talk) 19:22, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

User:Ham/AddCommonsCatLinks.js

Hi, I see that you have created User:Ham/AddCommonsCatLinks.js as an exact copy of a former revision of my script User:Dudemanfellabra/AddCommonsCatLinks.js. While some people would find this rude to completely copy someone else's code, I'm cool with it, but I did want to point out that the code is a work in progress and is constantly being updated. The version you copied is no longer up to date. The script has been expanded to also find images on Commons to add and allow support for many other countries' monuments. While you are free to continue using your own version of the script (although it does not show up in any of your js files, so you aren't really using it), you can simply add the following code to your js file of choice, e.g this one: 

importScript('User:Dudemanfellabra/AddCommonsCatLinks.js')

Then any updates I make to the script will automatically be reflected for your usage. Just a friendly tip!--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 11:09, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi @Dudemanfellabra; sorry that I've been so slow to get back to you — it's been a busy week. The truth is that I'm still a total novice with Java and, having seen that you were using your script to add commonscats to the lists of listed buildings in Welsh counties, I was trying to figure out how to do the same, and only had the link from the edit summary to go by. Clearly what I have to do is add the code above rather than your whole script, and I've sent the offending page for speedy deletion. Still not sure what to do after that, though; I don't see anything different when I go to the relevant pages. As you can tell, I'm still figuring this out, so thanks for the pointers and the tolerance. Ham (talk) 20:34, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
If the script is working correctly, when you visit a page like Grade I listed buildings in Powys, you should see a button at the top of the page just under the title and just above the lead paragraph that reads "Check Commons for images and categories". When you click that button, the script will download information from Commons and check the current page for any missing commonscat links/images that have known IDs on Commons. If there are any matches, it will let you pick one to add. If there aren't any, the script will tell you that and exit itself. Any page linked from Listed buildings in Wales should work. If the button is not showing up, it may be a browser issue.. If that is the case, could you please tell me what browser/operating system you are using? Also, if you know how to access the javascript console in your browser ("Step 3" here is helpful), could you copy/paste any errors that come up when visiting a relevant page? Thanks, and sorry for the confusion.--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 00:38, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the invite

Hi Ham,

Thanks for the invitation, unfortunately I cannot make it on Saturday...I'm a bit of a sports (boxing) fan. SethWhales talk 22:34, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Barbican art

-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:12, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing: Thanks! :) Ham (talk) 06:06, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
BTW, the former category will need renaming, once we find the name of the work. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:26, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: According to Philip Ward-Jackson, Public Sculpture of the City of London (Liverpool, 2003), p. 31, it's simply called Dolphin Fountain, so I've changed the cat name to Commons:Category:Dolphin Fountain (Barbican, London). I also changed the name of the Unity cat to Commons:Category:Unity (sculpture, London), partly because of the typo but also because the same book says (on p. 235) that Alban Gate isn't part of the Barbican. Ham (talk) 19:07, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

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Ways to improve Replicas of Michelangelo's Pietà

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Richard Coeur de Lion (statue)

I was thinking File:London MMB »0Z1 Palace of Westminster.jpg might be a good alternative to File:Richard I of England - Palace of Westminster - 24042004.jpg, but as the latter is used pretty widely, I'm after a second opinion. Perhaps best of the pick of Commons:Category:Statue of Richard I, Westminster? What do you reckon? Nev1 (talk) 19:44, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

@Nev1: I was thinking that it was time to replace that image too. The WLM 2014 pic is the pick of the crop in terms of composition, though the contrast between the figure and the background isn't as good as in some of the others in the Commons cat. One to submit to the Photography Workshop or is it best left as it is? Ham (talk) 08:21, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
The only experience I've had of the graphics workshop is occasionally asking people to draw or redraw vector files. If you think it's worth asking then I'd say go for it. Nev1 (talk) 15:30, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
@Nev1: We'll see how it gets on here. Ham (talk) 15:51, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you re: London public art

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September 2014

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A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar
I appreciate your recent improvements to London sculptures and monuments, especially since I have been working on some of them myself as of late. Thank you for putting up with my questions, for using your talk page as a personal checklist, for assisting with naming conventions, and for your contributions to Wikipedia in general. Keep up the great work! --Another Believer (Talk) 01:55, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
@Another Believer: Thank you for this‍—‌my first barnstar on the English Wikipedia! Ham (talk) 06:50, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
👍 Like The pleasure is all mine. Well-deserved! ----Another Believer (Talk) 14:20, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

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Re: Categories

Regarding this edit, I am curious why you removed the monuments/memorials category and the outdoor sculptures category. Not all statues are monuments/memorials, and not all statues are outdoor sculptures, so I would not think the single Statues in London category would be descriptive enough. ----Another Believer (Talk) 18:16, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

@Another Believer: I've created Category:Statues in London with Category:Monuments and memorials in London and Category:Outdoor sculptures in London as parent categories, and I dislike subcats and parent cats both being used by the same article. I feel that's justified as most of the statues that will populate Statues in London are going to be memorials to an individual, and outdoors. (I'm not a fan of the "outdoor sculptures" category at all and would happily do away with it.) Ham (talk) 18:33, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Hmm, ok. I guess I just don't assume that a statue is an outdoor sculpture, or a monument/memorial. Surely there are indoor statues and/or statues that are not memorials, like animals or abstract human figures... But, I don't feel too strongly either way. Just thought I would ask. Thanks for responding and thanks, again, for your work on London public art. I have thoroughly enjoyed working on these entries collaboratively and appreciate your assistance with naming conventions, checking sources, etc. ----Another Believer (Talk) 22:16, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
@Another Believer: Perhaps I'm just approaching this as I would Wikimedia Commons, where I would try to get as few superfluous categories as possible. Here on Wikipedia where there are fewer items (articles) it might be all right to have categories with a lot of overlap. I'll keep "outdoor sculptures" et al. in future. Ham (talk) 06:22, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

(Here is an example of a statue in London that is not an outdoor sculpture.) ----Another Believer (Talk) 19:54, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

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Royal Society of Chemistry

Hi,

As you may know, I started as Wikimedian in Residence at the Royal Society of Chemistry this week. During my time in post, I'd like to do something to improve Welsh-language content related to chemistry; and English-language content about chemistry in Wales. Perhaps, for instance, there are some notable Welsh chemists whose biographies could be written (or translated), or some company histories? Would you be interested in collaborating, wearing your WiR hat? Is there anything the RSC can do, to support your work? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:16, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing: I've replied via email. Ham (talk) 09:45, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

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Help?

Could I bother you for assistance with a Portland-related sculpture? I am not sure how to make this article title fully italicized, even when using the DISPLAYTITLE template. Do you know how to accomplish this? ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:09, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

@Another Believer: I've figured out a way of doing it, though there might be a way of doing it with cleaner formatting. Ham (talk) 08:13, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Perfect! Thank you so much. I was not familiar with the "all=yes" parameter. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:59, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

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FYI

I noticed that you said on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters, "I have yet to find a single example of 'renaissance' in lower case from scanning the contents of my bookshelves." I agree that the lowercasing of Renaissance is rare, but it is not unknown. I quoted an example from a Princeton University Press book (which is on my bookshelves) in Cosmographia (Bernard Silvestris)#Reception and, I admit, it was difficult to type that without a capital R. It just goes to show that there's almost no usage of which one can't find an example somewhere. (Aside: I advocate the Chicago Manual style for art movements—mainly lowercase—but I don't care enough to get into an argument about the matter.) Deor (talk) 23:54, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

@Deor: Thanks for this; I was hoping to find an exception to prove the rule but had no luck with my collection of books‍—‌I'm glad you were able to find one! Despite appearances I don't care that deeply for this debate either, but what I don't want is over-zealous application of the "avoid unnecessary capitalisation" rule by editors who are only familiar with the style guides, not the literature on the topics at hand. Ham (talk) 09:49, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Confirmation

I hereby confirm that I am the same user as Artifex on other projects, and wish to merge the two accounts as Ham II. Ham (talk) 15:30, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

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