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reorganization of articles on Hellenism

Hi Ashmedai 119,

I just saw your post at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome#Hellenistic World (to which unfortunately noone has responded so far). I made a similar request at Talk:Hellenism#reorganization and foreign-language articles. Perhaps you may want to comment there?

Joriki (talk) 16:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

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Sicily

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Articles needing work

Hello, I see from your comments on the Orlov revolt that you have thought a bit about issues of Greek ethnogenesis and so on. You might want to contribute to Greeks and Names of the Greeks, which currently are full of anachronistic essentialism, the sort of thing Rotzokos and others have criticized effectively. --macrakis (talk) 12:30, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Modern Greek Enlightenment

Hi, I was referring to the wrong link. But now it's correct. A Macedonian (talk) 15:55, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

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Feel free to restore. I do not intend to argue nor to revert. I just have a constant worry about not gettting this article huuuuuuuge, but clarity is above everything. So, if you deem it necessary, readd it. Another worry I have is that, yes, as you had written, this was the Church's policy (which Orthodox Church's exactly? Of the Patriarchate?), but the reader may get the impression that the Church was phanatically anti-Revolution without any obvious reason. Yes, the Church (any Church) is traditionally conservative and reactive, but I think that Arnakis, when saying "though the Porte took care not to attack the church as an institution, Greek ecclesiastical leaders knew that they were practically helpless in times of trouble", offers another very interesting aspect. They knew that they could potentially pay for any Turkish death. And indeed Gregory, despite all these encyclicals, was the first target. It is a human parameter which should not be omitted. I may be pro-Revolution, but if I know that I may face retaliations - not only me, but my colleagues, my family, my people in Constantinople - then, what am I doing?--Yannismarou (talk) 07:42, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I did not say that fear for retaliations was the only motive for the Church's decision, but it was a motive. Anyway, historians dealing with the Revolution tend to see this or this aspect of the stance of the Church. For instance, I do remember that Svoronos also regarded as an obstacle for the revolutionaries' efforts. Honestly, I do not remember which was Paparigopoulos' approach, although I had read him years ago. For me there is no straightforwarding answer, and no single truth. Historians may discuss the issue for years. See for instance this very interesting article in To Vima.

My opinion? Yes, the Church was conservative. Yes, the Church was initially anti-Revolution. But, especially the Patriarch had little place for manoeuvres. At least, this is my impression. And, judging from what happened with Gregory, I must say that, if I was Patriarch, I would also have anathematized Ypsilantis, despite my true feelings towards his course of action!--Yannismarou (talk) 13:09, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

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Hi, I just promoted the hook you approved to the queue. It was a little borderline, because per Rule H2, you're not allowed to approve your own hook. In this case, I felt that the nominator changed it enough to make it his own. In future, if you have a good idea for a hook, you can either hint at it with a few words, to get the nominator to write it himself, and then you can approve it — or you can go ahead and write it yourself, and then (if the nominator likes it), call on another reviewer to approve it. The idea is to have as many eyes as possible on the hook to make sure it meets all the requirements. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:58, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your message, Yoninah. That was negligence on my part and I am sorry for this, but I'm glad it all worked out eventually. Ashmedai 119 (talk) 22:03, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

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Byzantine Greeks article

Hi. I have been reading your comments there (not the entire discussion, mostly your comments due to being of a well-educated nature, you seem to be a historian). The two sides of the dispute need more community input to achieve consensus. I suggest making a formal move request. I do not have any particular interest or opinion on the article, but giving a solution to a long dispute indeed benefits Wikipedia. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 07:17, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks for your kind words, Ktrimi991, and for taking an interest in this affair. I hesitate to initiate a requested move discussion not merely because I am unfortunately not entirely certain that I will be able to be continuously present here for the period during which the discussion lasts, but also because, as I see things, this is a dispute that arose from and concerns not so much a disagreement not about the title (for which WP:ARTICLETITLES applies), but about NPOV with implications for the whole body of the article. I would appreciate it if you would like to share your thoughts, as a Wikipedian much more experienced than me, about the best way to proceed with a view towards resolving this dispute. Best, Ashmedai 119 (talk) 14:00, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

If the whole article, or large parts of it have problems, you might request a Good Article reassessment as a first step. The said article has WP:Good Article status, and with WP:POV issues it might not deserve it. Changing large parts of an article is a difficult, rather impossible task, when the topic is sth that invokes nationalist or religious feeling to many people. In any case, the only process that can bring fundamental changes is a move request. You do not need to spend much time with it if your arguments are strong. A single comment to present your rationale would suffice. Editors who would !vote would have some basic knwoledge of the matter, there would be no need to spend a lot of time to respond to every !vote. Ktrimi991 (talk) 16:57, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks again for your speedy response, Ktrimi991. The problem I had in mind that IMO pervades the article and should be first addressed is the way the Rhomaioi are presented throughout its text as "Byzantine Greeks", contradicting even the sources used and referred to in the article's footnotes. Exploring the means available to resolve a dispute, I found out that there is a Dispute Resolution Noticeboard, and I am wondering, diven that the dispute at hand concerns more than just the article's title, whether this Noticeboard would be a preferable venue to raise the issue (compared to the requested move process or asking for a reassessment of its "Good article" status) and/or a faster way to reach a conclusion. Thanks once more, Ashmedai 119 (talk) 18:10, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

The Dispute Resolution Noticeboard would not be effective. If you can summarize the problem with one question, WP:RfC could be of help. Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:13, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

I am sorry for troubling you with this, Ktrimi991, but I would be thankful if you could please explain why you are saying that addressing the Noticeboard would not be an effective way to reach a conslusion of this discussion. Thanks in advance, Ashmedai 119 (talk) 18:33, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Most of disputes taken to the said Noticeboard, al least when Balkan topics are concerned, do not find a solution. It is the nature of the procedure itself that causes that. There you need to convince the other side of the dispute that you are right. On the other hand, RfCs attract much more attention and if uninvolved editors agree with you, the other side of the dispute can do nothing but accept the community consensus. Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:44, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your advice, Ktrimi991. I will now wait to see if any futher concerns exist to be discussed in the article's talk page (it seems to me like all such have been addressed) and will then see how best to proceed. Best, Ashmedai 119 (talk) 06:01, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

OK, I hope every dispute is solved for the benefit of the community. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 07:08, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

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		The Barnstar of Diplomacy is awarded to users who have helped to resolve, peacefully, conflicts on Wikipedia. I am sure that, besides me, the others too could agree that your efforts in resolving disputes in on least three separate article talk pages, should be recognized. Thank you! - ❖ SilentResident ❖ (talk ✉ | contribs ✎) 17:16, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

This is very kind of you, SilentResident, and I welcome your kindness. Please do indulge me, though, in noting that though I try to be polite in my dealings with others including conversations on this website, I do not think that diplomacy is a concept most apt in describing the desirable approach in the resolution of disagreements that may arise; diplomacy, in my understanding, is a process aiming to reconcile differences, with no regards to the justice of the demands of one or other part. My (brief) experience here suggests that disagreements usually derive from an inadequate study or appreciation of availabe sources that relate to the matter discussed or from unexamined and false premises that render agreement impossible. I hope that my talk page comments aid towards the removal of such obstacles between disagreeing parties. Please do not think that I mean this as diminishing my appreciation for your kind gesture and please accept in return my sincere thanks, Ashmedai 119 (talk) 19:01, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

I wasn't intending to reply, but what you said just reminded me of a venerable Mediator from the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard, here in the English Wikipedia, who although wasn't familiar on the subject, they were quick in understanding it and managing to actually improve the article in spite of the unfortunate hurdles the dispute has caused to it. Maybe you should consider the role . --- ❖ SilentResident ❖ ^{(talk ✉ | contribs ✎)} 01:20, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

I really appreciate Ashmedai's work. It is a frank and well-informed effort. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:13, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

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