Talk:Two Tribes

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The release year looks a bit, ahem, wrong. If the single is about nuclear weapons and takes its name from a Mad Max movie, then I don't see how it could have been released during the first World War. Maybe that should be "1991"? However, I'm not sure of the correct year. — JIP | Talk 06:59, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Players[edit]

It's probably impossible to verify nowadays, but the instrumental parts of the studio versions of Two Tribes were performed by a large cast of session musicians, possibly including Trevor Rabin of Yes. It would be interesting to know who they were (particularly the guitarist). -Ashley Pomeroy 03:42, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

True. Steve Howe appears on the Pleasuredome LP. The only "real" musicians on "Relax" are the Blockheads.

I saw them play live - really live - on the Tube early in 1985, and Nasher was excellent. Shows was a perfectionist T Horn was/is.

Reagan, Chris Barrie and Hitler[edit]

Part of the text of Chris Barrie's Reagan voice on the "Annihilation" mix is from Hitler, addressing the court after he'd been sentenced to jail "and the goddess of eternal justic will smile and tear to tatters the sentence of this court..." Reagan as Hitler? Paul Morley being very naughty indeed, I think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.200.194 (talk) 12:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Height of the Cold War"?[edit]

The article says that the song "was released at the height of the cold war, when general fears about global nuclear warfare were at a peak." This seems exaggerated. Surely the "height of the Cold War" was in the late 1950s and early 1960s -- as per the Doomsday Clock. It is true that in the early 1980s there was some increase in tension (again, see Doomsday Clock), but not to the extent this sentence makes it seem like. 207.176.159.90 06:39, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the "Doomsday Clock" was based on the perceptions of a group of scientists / academics, which probably differ from your average person in the street. I recall that, at the time, the UK charts were full of "we're all about to die" songs (e.g. "Dancing with tears in my eyes", "99 Red Balloons", "Breathing", etc..) a situation perpetuated by what many people viewed as the extremely agressive attitudes being adopted by both President Reagan and Prime Minister Thatcher towards the eastern bloc countries. Also, TV dramas like "Threads" didn't do anything to cheer everyone up... Paul-b4 (talk) 14:32, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Video[edit]

The guy fighting Reagan looks more like Eltsin than Chernenko to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.250.45.172 (talk) 09:26, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think anyone at the time claimed the look-alikes were good look-alikes! Lovingboth (talk) 23:08, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Awards[edit]

no mention of the Ivor Novello Award which this song won. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peeky (talk • contribs) 13:03, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tracks[edit]

Propose deletion or heavy condensation of the Track Listing and Reissues sections. Even the Reissues section straightaway admits that it is 3rd party material bearing little resemblance to the song in question. This is an encyclopedia, not a catalogue. Cpaaoi (talk) 00:42, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's tidied it up somewhat. I have now found that Hornet's Stories link; it's not dead as I said in the edit summaries. But it is a blog, and therefore the tangential nature of the material deriving from it (1984 Democratic convention) does not outweigh the weakness of the source. Cpaaoi (talk) 12:09, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of best-selling singles[edit]

User:Doctorhawkes, the single is in a List of best-selling singles in the United Kingdom yet there's no wikilink to the article. As of 2022, it is there at 30rd place in the List of best-selling singles in the United Kingdom#Best-selling singles based on paid-for purchases list.

In the band's article there's a sentence: "As of 2014, "Relax" and "Two Tribes" were the sixth and 22nd-bestselling singles in UK history".^[1] Miki Filigranski (talk) 11:37, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The source is on that page: https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-best-selling-singles-of-all-time-on-the-official-uk-chart__21298/. I'll put it in. Doctorhawkes (talk) 22:02, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks, all the best!--Miki Filigranski (talk) 22:32, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Lester, Paul (2014-08-28). "Frankie Goes To Hollywood: 'No one could touch us – people were scared'". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077. Retrieved 2023-04-22.

Bass[edit]

"... it juxtaposes a relentless pounding bass line and guitar riff inspired by American funk and R&B pop... But there's no bass credit? The album Welcome to the Pleasuredome has bass credits for both Mark O'Toole and Trevor Horn? But there's none here. So was there any bass, or just the sequencer? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[Lester-2014-1] Lester, Paul (2014-08-28). "Frankie Goes To Hollywood: 'No one could touch us – people were scared'". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077. Retrieved 2023-04-22.

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