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"SOHR reported/according to the SOHR"[edit]

I think if we point out every time we take something from the SOHR, the reading will get rather repetitive. This isn't done for any of the articles related to battles or offensives, (look at the recent Battle of al-Hasakah for example) I don't understand why it should be pointed out here. If the reader is curious about the source, they can hover of the ref number at the end of each event. There's nothing wrong with pointing out sources, I just don't think there's a need to constantly address them in each even and I think it'll be boring to read after a while of 'SOHR reported, SOHR reported, SOHR reported' etc.ThePaganUK (talk) 20:12, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This has been discussed many times and the consensus always emerges that SOHR is a borderline reliable source: it is better to triangulate with other sources and attribute if it is the only source. If it is the only source, I'd strongly question if the fact it is used for is noteworthy. We are not a newspaper and do not need to include every single event in this article, and using WP:BREAKING news sources make us un-encyclopedic. If something is worth including, we should easily be able to find other sources for it, or secondary sources citing it.

I'd say Battle of al-Hasakah is an article with some very poor sourcing in need of a lot of work needed to make it encyclopedic. For example it cites tweets. This is a common picture with breaking news stories, which either end up as bad Wikipedia articles or get fixed over time. The solution in both cases is better sourcing, waiting to see what RSs say before writing up here, and adding attribution when we see weak sources. BobFromBrockley (talk) 18:02, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also yria.liveuamap.com is not a reliable source either. It's equivalent to Wikipedia as a source and is reliant on (also unreliable) Twitter. For example, the 9 February entry here is from @NotWoofers on Twitter - NOT a reliable source! BobFromBrockley (talk) 18:13, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

SOHR[edit]

A plea to ThePaganUK and other editors: please can we not use SOHR so heavily. It is a borderline reliable source to which any even slightly controversial claims should be clearly attributed and triangulated with other sources. If something is ONLY reported by SOHR, then it is simply not noteworthy and should not be listed here. This page has literally hundreds of facts that are sourced only to SOHR, which makes it an unreliable encyclopedia page. Wikipedia is not a newspaper, so we don't need to be comprehensive. We should select significant, verifiable facts. BobFromBrockley (talk) 11:27, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bobfrombrockley Fine I just won't do anything with the timeline. Monthly death tolls only.ThePaganUK (talk) 16:24, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No need to do nothing! Just be a little more selective. BobFromBrockley (talk) 16:27, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Bobfrombrockley, that sounds reasonable. Sm8900 (talk) 19:32, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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