Talk:Sulayman ibn Abd al-Malik

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Comments[edit]

Musa bin Nusair was not killed by Sulayman. He was not even reporting to Hajjaj. See the 'History of Islam' by Al-Zahabi.

--Islamic 17:22, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hereditary succession[edit]

Brother Mohammad, You say: "The second link speaks of disagreement on hereditary succession, it doesn't outright say no" That is not right. In fact, Ibn Hazm stated a mutual agreement that Khilafa cannot be transmitted through hereditary succession. He said: ولا خلاف بين أحد من أهل الإسلام في أنه لا يجوز التوارث فيها --Islamic 00:41, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm probably wrong, my Arabic is rather poor and classes won't start till September so I have to work pretty much alone on it. But regarding this, it says that hereditary succession is forbidden, but appointment is not (Abu Bakr(ra) appointed Umar(ra)). So what's the ruling on appointing a family member? Hazrat Ali (ra) appointed Hasan, his own son, and he was accepted by Muslims as a correctly appointed caliph for the short time he was considered as such. --xx-Mohammad Mufti-xx 00:54, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As for Arabic, you can use google translation, although it is still beta... "hereditary succession" means appointing a family member. In most Sunni sources (and early Shia sources), Ali did not appoint his son, but rather, Hasan was elected by people of Kufa. --Islamic 02:52, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mints[edit]

A small tidbit I’m placing here until we find a place for it in the article. In Sulayman’s last year in office, there were 19 dirham mints across the caliphate, compared to 10 the following year and 6 in 719. See Blankinship, page 90. The mints were located at Wasit, Mahayy, Darabjird, Suq al-Ahwaz, Ramhormoz, Istakhr, Jayy, Surraq, Bahurasir, Merv, Junday Sabur, Ardashir Khurra, al-Taymara, Nahr Tira, Sijistan, Kerman, al-Al, al-Furat, Hamadan, Dastawa, al-Rayy. Al Ameer (talk) 22:06, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

War with the Byzantines[edit]

@Cplakidas: Any information about this caliph and the war/relations with Byzantium? Or just missing information in general? I plan on a GA nomination shortly. —Al Ameer (talk) 19:59, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Al Ameer, I'll have a look, please give me a few days. Constantine ✍ 16:32, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

More coins[edit]

@Al Ameer son: You might be interested.[1] Scroll through the pages for some really nice ones. - LouisAragon (talk) 14:40, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@LouisAragon: Sorry for the late reply. Thanks for the link. I think I found a good gold dinar to replace the one in the infobox. Will upload it soon. Al Ameer (talk) 17:21, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@LouisAragon: Updated with the better coin ;) Al Ameer (talk) 21:19, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Date of death[edit]

I noticed that in the first sentence, his date of death is said to be 22 September 717, whereas this is 24 September 717 in the infobox and in the navigational box at the end. I understand that this date is not certain, but it seems inconsistent to mention two different ones next to each other (first sentence/infobox). - Tristan Surtel (talk) 13:31, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Malicious "Raja Dahir" edits[edit]

Some Hindutva nationalists seem to have maliciously edited this article by inserting the claim that Sulayman was an illegitimate son of Raja Dahir, the ruler of Sindh who Muhammad bin Qasim had defeated. It would be much appreciated if someone could look into what occurred and reverse these malicious changes. 142.198.198.219 (talk) 20:37, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have since removed those nefarious edits. I believe the reason this article was targeted was due to its link to Muhammad bin Qasim's article. It might be necessary to examine all three articles (this one, Muhammad bin Qasim's and Raja Dahir's) to determine if any other malicious edits have been made. 142.198.198.219 (talk) 20:52, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The person who engaged in the vandalism was "Harshniraj2005". It would seem I was correct in my earlier assumption then, that it was a Hindutva nationalist-type individual. Please note that this person has already been warned on other occasions for engaging in vandalism, on other articles. For that reason, proceed with caution regarding any other edits he may have performed. 142.198.198.219 (talk) 06:11, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]