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Copy edit queries[edit]

Apologies for taking so long to get this started. Some queries: "The king taxed his dominions extensively to support his wars, and was resistant to any change in the political structure by refusing to bestow autonomy on the cities..." Is this trying to make three points:

Taxation
Resistant to change
Refusing autonomy

Or just 1 and 3, with 2 being a part of 3? Gog the Mild (talk) 14:04, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, thanks for taking the task. I think that 1 is seperate because Taxation had something to do with his wars. While 2 and 3 are connected and indicate his tyranny.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 01:07, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks. Amended. Give me a ping if you have queries with this or anything else. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:00, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild IqbalRajab (talk) 12:11, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Featured article?[edit]

I would have opposed this article at FAC if it had been presented there with the current version of his family tree. It would be much better presented in the style given at List of Seleucid rulers#Family tree to avoid the repetition, confusion and poor format. DrKay (talk) 09:04, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It didnt have a family tree during FAC. It was recently added. Note, I dont think it would have failed FAC even with that family tree. If you think its better to delete the tree, you have my support. But why is the one from the list better? Many biograpgies about monarchs have the current format and I cant see why one is better than the other. Anyway, I dont think we need a family tree here to start with.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 09:10, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As I said: repetition, confusion and poor format. DrKay (talk) 09:17, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How will you avoid it? The guy was an inbred. But anyway, you suggest deleting it? I think its better.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 09:21, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It can be avoided by drawing a proper family tree. DrKay (talk) 10:21, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Seleucus IV Philopator

Ptolemy VI Philometor

Antiochus VIII Grypus

Tryphaena

Seleucus VI Epiphanes

Antiochus XI Epiphanes

Philip I Philadelphus

Demetrius III Eucaerus

Antiochus XII Dionysus

Philip II Philoromaeus

I honestly cant see why this is better than the other. Both are accepted. If one leads to poor format, repetation and confusion then it should be deleted from Wikipedia (the template itself). I guess this is a matter of personal taste. For my personal taste, I think this article dont need a family tree at all. If anyone wants to replace the current one with the new one, please make sure to add the citations. Im done here--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 10:36, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note, the family tree template is deprecated. Template:Chart should be used. It gives the same result.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 11:35, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a matter of personal taste. Two people are repeated 5 times each at this article, four people are repeated twice. That's eighteen repetitions of the same information, leading to an absurd and ridiculously over-repetitive table that is duplicative, unnecessarily complicated and badly formatted. That is not the same as other uses of this template. DrKay (talk) 12:01, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]