Talk:Population White Paper

Discrepancies

Oh for the love of-! Read the White Paper - it DOES NOT say that the population is projected to be 6.9 million, much less targeted at that number. This has even been repeatedly clarified in the mass media, in ministerial statements, and on the White Paper FAQ page. Opposition politicians have been bandying this misinterpretation about, but anyone with a primary level of English comprehension and who has read the White Paper would see this to be true.

My edits are all well-sourced but you and your friends keep coming in to revert them for no good reason. Your version is rife with errors and broken links, draws heavily on opposition statements and misreporting, and attempts to state your personal opinion as fact. Now you accuse me of edit warring, but the first reversion was yours and it was for absolutely no reason at all.Logicpls (talk) 17:33, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Some selective direct quotes from the White Paper; I've bolded two relevant quotes for clarity:

At our current low birth rate, our citizen population will age rapidly, and also start declining from 2025, if we do not take in any new immigrants...In 2011, our Total Fertility Rate (TFR) was 1.20. It has been below the replacement rate of 2.1 for more than three decades. Low and falling TFR is not unique to Singapore. Many developed Western countries, and East Asian societies such as Hong Kong, Japan and Taiwan, suffer the same problem...We do not expect our TFR to improve to the replacement rate of 2.1 in the short term. Taking in younger immigrants will help us top up the smaller cohorts of younger Singaporeans, and balance the ageing of our citizen population. To stop our citizen population from shrinking, we will take in between 15,000 and 25,000 new citizens each year. We will review this immigration rate from time to time, depending on the quality of applicants, our birth rates, and our changing needs...With this controlled immigration rate, the citizen population is projected to be between 3.6 and 3.8 million by 2030. Together with the PR population of 0.5 to 0.6 million, this gives a resident population (comprising citizens and PRs) of between 4.2 and 4.4 million in 2030, depending on birth rates, immigration and life expectancy...The roadmap in this White Paper puts us on possible population trajectories to meet the present and future needs of Singapore and Singaporeans. Singapore’s total population of residents and non-residents in 2020 is projected to be between 5.8 and 6 million, depending on our fertility trends, life expectancy, as well as our social and economic needs. The resident population (comprising citizens and PRs) is projected to be 4 to 4.1 million, of which citizens alone will make up 3.5 to 3.6 million. By 2030, Singapore’s total population could range between 6.5 and 6.9 million. ... As at June 2012, we had 3.29 million citizens and 0.53 million PRs. Together, they made up the resident population of 3.82 million. We also had a non-resident population of 1.49 million. Overall, Singapore’s total population was 5.31 million ... 4.14 Singapore’s total population could reach between 6.5 and 6.9 million by 2030.

BushelCandle (talk) 18:08, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

I'm glad you've done that for me. Thank you. So the White Paper says that Singapore's population could reach 6.5 - 6.9 million. This is not AT ALL the same as saying that 6.9 million is THE projected number. More importantly, it does NOT mean that 6.9 is a target - as has been repeatedly clarified. Compare my edit to the one you have restored. See the problem with the original?Logicpls (talk) 18:45, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

No.

But I would suggest that you edit in small successive increments so that anything that is non-contentious can remain and the reversions (if any) made by me and others will indicate what is unacceptable...

Thanks for helping to write a better encyclopaedia. BushelCandle (talk) 19:05, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

"6.9 million" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect 6.9 million has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 31 § 6.9 million until a consensus is reached. Okmrman (talk) 21:39, 31 March 2024 (UTC)