Talk:Murabba

Merger proposal

A merger into Fruit preserves is a bad idea. Fruit preserves is an overview page. It suffers already from the different scopes. It lists all fruit preserves on the one hand, and goes into details of jam/jelly on the other hand. Murabba is the same as Varenye, and all of these are types of Conserve or whole fruit preserve. It would be more reasonable to merge Murabba, Varenye, possibly Slatko, and parts of Fruit preserves#Conserve into a separate "Conserve" or "Whole fruit jam" article. --Off-shell (talk) 12:35, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Oppose merge I don't think it's exactly the same as compote or even fruit preserves. It has a regional significance and different flavor profile (based on saveur articles and other WP:RS). I am going to remove the unsourced content (we can't merge that anyway) and leave a stub for others to improve (or merge if that is the outcome here). Spudlace (talk) 13:01, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

In Caucasus murabba denotes whole fruit jam. Here is an example from Georgia. But Indian recipes may differ indeed. Here are some illustrations comparing Caucasian murabba with other whole fruit jam varieties: --Off-shell (talk) 23:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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  Azerbaijani strawberry murabba
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  Georgian cherry murabba
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  Russian cherry varenye
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  Serbian strawberry slatko

Wow, I had no idea. Ok, well, according to the Culinary Arts Institute Encyclopedic Cookbook fruit preserves are always made with whole fruit, and jam is different. It's a good source but not the only one. I think we can just redirect to the current Fruit preserves#Conserve. Slatko has only one citation to serbiancafe.com. Murabba is similar, very little reliably sourced content to merge. Varenye has more. Would it overburden the preserves article? Spudlace (talk) 23:49, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

I think it will overload Fruit preserves. That page sufferes already from the clash of scopes. It gives an overview of all types of fruit preserves (e.g. confit, chutney, fruit butter etc.) on the one hand, and goes into details of jam production on the other hand. You also correctly pointed before that murabba has its regional features, at least in India. It would be good to extend this article first and then see if it can be merged. As for slatko: I added a couple of refs. Slatko also seems to overlap with Greek Spoon sweets. So we got quite many pages on local varieties of whole fruit jam, and I don't know if merging can help here. Instead, it might be better to extract the details of jam and jelly from Fruit preserves into a separate article Jam. --Off-shell (talk) 22:28, 16 January 2021 (UTC)