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Military history: Culture / Maritime / Ottoman / Early Modern

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Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:07, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kaptan Pasha → Kapudan Pasha – per WP:COMMONNAME

"Kapudan Pasha" -Llc 1,580 results
"Kapudan Pasa" -Llc 257 results
"Captain Pasha" -Llc 1,030 results
"Kaptan Pasha" -Llc 176 results
"Kaptan-i Derya" -Llc 81 results
"Kapudan-i Derya" -Llc 145 results
"Kaptan Pasa" -Llc 151 results

+ Ottoman:

Ottoman "Kapudan Pasha" -Llc 995 results
Ottoman "Captain Pasha" -Llc 214 results
Ottoman "Kaptan Pasha" -Llc 111 results
Ottoman "Kaptan-i Derya" -Llc 47 results
Ottoman "Kapudan-i Derya" -Llc 117 results
Ottoman "Kaptan Pasa" -Llc 78 results
Ottoman "Grand Admiral" -Llc 1,350 results

Takabeg (talk) 02:48, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Name[edit]

Including some variants untried above:

Kapudan Pasha 8490/2330/187

Captain Pasha 3150/2930/121 (but most book sources older volumes)

Kaptan Pasha 3530/128/20

Derya Bey 5520/10/1 (but one source the Cambridge History of the Ottoman Empire)

Kaptan-i Derya 46400/226/21

Kaptan Derya 21600/24/6

Kapudan-i Derya 3060/279/30

Kapudan Derya 20/9/1

Captain Derya 51/0/0

Numbers are results from web, book, & scholar google searches -wikipedia. Translations include "Grand Admiral," "Supreme Admiral," "Admiral." — LlywelynII 18:25, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Commander-in-Chief[edit]

I have read the biographies of various Admirals of the Ottoman Empire and the title that I recommend is Grand Admiral, the Grand Admiral still might come in under the Commander-in-chief which is the Grand Vizier as the Serdar, but I can't think of any example as of now. The Commander-in-chief for me is the Serdar. Mr.Helping Hand (talk) 19:09, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]