Talk:Johan Ruijsink

Johan Ruijsink has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: April 24, 2023. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Johan Ruijsink appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 12 March 2019 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that pool manager and coach Johan Ruijsink has won the Mosconi Cup as part of both the European and United States teams?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2019/March. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Johan Ruijsink.

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WikiProject Cue sports to-do list:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : Lots of high-priority articles need to be created:

List of wanted articles...

Games: A bunch of high-priority game redlinks, e.g. American four-ball billiards (redirs to Four-ball billiards but not specifically covered there)
"Legends": Edwin Kelly, Charlie Peterson (pool player) (all BCA Hall of Famers); George Franklin Slosson, Maurice Daly (billiards player), Frank Ives, George Butler Sutton [not George H. Sutton, the one with no hands]
Male pool bios: Hsia Hui-kai
Female pool bios:
Male three-cushion bios: Dion Nelin & Jozef Bel Philipoom
Female carom bios: Aygen Berk Saygıner
Aristic pool bios: Nick Nikolaidis, Mark Dimick,Sebastian Giumelli, Eric Yow
Unranked in current pool but notable: Mike Eufemia, Shannon Daulton, Jimmy Reid (pool player) [speed pool champ], var. Mosconi Cup players
Non-player figures: Mitch Laurance, George Fels
Five-pins bios: Gustavo Zito
Organizations: Joss Tour
Events: WPA World Nine-ball Championships (pre-1997), BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, World 14.1 Continuous Championship, International Challenge of Champions (pool)
Media and misc.: Iwan Simonis (leading billiard cloth maker), Joss Cues (major cue mfr.), The Baron and the Kid [Johnny Cash film], Ultimate Pool Party [TV show]
And: everyone/thing listed at WP:CUEGAMES, WP:CUEEVENTS, WP:CUEORGS, WP:CUEBIOS, & WP:CUEMISC. Also a Cue sports world records article (many can be pulled from bio articles like Geet Sethi, Guinness Book will provide others, and so will BCA and other orgs., websites and books like Shamos 1999).
Meta: Outline of cue sports (OoK; cf. [1], etc.) – presently redirects to Cue sports, but this is not an OoK page.
Internal pages: Something like: [2][3]). Such pages are not fluff, but can be good places to find recruits for the project, possibly including subject-matter experts, especially if cross-referenced to the project. Also, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cue sports (cf. [4][5][6]).

Cleanup : Thomas Engert, Marlon Manalo
Copyedit : Jonni Fulcher
Expand : Cue sports techniques#Carom shots (section needs to exist), Straight pool, Alfredo de Oro,Jeanette Lee (pool player)
NPOV : Andy Segal (major WP:COI and WP:V issues, too), Jose Parica (it's bad!); Efren Reyes, Thomas Engert, Dennis Orcollo, Dick Jaspers
Photo : Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports and Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports people
Split : List of World Eight-ball Champions - blackball stuff needs own article {draft split from real eight-ball one (draft).
Stubs : loads of players in Category:Cue sports stubs
Update : Arcade game (link to bagatelle, bar billiards, etc.)
Verify : Cue stick (mostly WP:OR!), Frank Taberski (has major fact conflict between BCA & NYT sourcing), Russian pyramid, add sources to Unreferenced BLPs
Wikify : Chicago (pool), Jonni Fulcher
Other :
- Create timelines, both textual and graphical. See link for various guidelines and examples. We need an overall one for cue sports generally, and more specific ones as we drill down into more specific topics (timeline of nine-ball, timeline of Willie Mosconi's career, etc.).
- Form sections: Exhibition game needs section on cue sports; could later form a new article with "Main article..." xref to it. What other general articles need cue sports sections?
- CopyVio rewrite:
- Clarify: What is the "continuous pool" listed above "14.1 continuous" at Alfredo DeOro?
- Delete or defend:
- Move/Rename (and Redirect):
- Redirect:
- Unorphan:
- Ensure: that rules discussions in game articles & the Billiard techniques article do not violate WP:NOT#IINFO.
- Help fix: WP:CUEBIOS#Pool players (women) is nearly empty!
- Help develop: the lists of WP:CUEORGS and WP:CUEEVENTS
- Images: improve articles with images from commons; create pics and add them to commons as GFDL/CC-by/PD.
- Add: {{Sport overview}} to main articles of cue games that are real sports; medal table tags where they apply (see Ding Junhui for example).
- Insert: Cue sports events (tournament results, etc.) into the "year in sports" categories (e.g. 1965 in sports), using {{subst:Cue sports heading}} if that year doesn't have one yet.
- Change:
- Replace:
- Some day: Seek Featured Topic status.
- Plunder: the French article; it does have some interesting tidbits, structure and images. Check out de.wikipedia, etc., as well.
- Inter-wiki: Improve simple:Billiards and foreign-language key articles.

See also: Snooker to-do list

Note: To watchlist this to-do list, click on "watch" at top right of this table. Watching the page it is transcluded on won't watch the to-do list.

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GA Review[edit]

Passed. MaxnaCarta (talk) 07:56, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Johan Ruijsink/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MaxnaCarta (talk · contribs) 06:52, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a. (reference section):

b. (citations to reliable sources):

c. (OR):

d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a. (major aspects):

b. (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Well written article. I love that it is short, but says all it really needs to on the subject. Would be great for you to hunt for a suitably licenced photo out there. The feedback below is a suggestion for improvement. However I do not think any of the issues raised by me actually prevent the article from meeting the GA criteria and so it is a pass before any of the issues are addressed. Because the data relied on by the Express is an uncontroversial fact and not about a living person (rather a sports event) I consider it okay on this occasion. Rest of the article is fine. Great work Lee Vilenski! MaxnaCarta (talk) 07:37, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

Lead[edit]

Why is the first sentenced referenced? Ref could be moved to second sentence in "Career"? I feel per MOS Lead that the lead section should summarise information mentioned within the body of the article (noting this one is necessarily shorter than some articles). So, I would move that reference to the appropriate sentence within the body and leave the lead to be free of citations. Looks neater. Up to you though.
Same comment for the first sentence of the second paragraph in the lead. Up to you.
C/E suggestion: First sentence may not need a comma.
Second sentence: Omit "After his first appearance at the Mosconi Cup"? Is it necessary?

Early life[edit]

First sentence: Change "Ruijsink began coaching pool players in the early 90s, credited with empowering Netherlands' pool players, such as Niels Feijen and Alex Lely, and later Russian players such as Ruslan Chinachov and Konstantin Stepanov" and replace with "Ruijsink began coaching pool players in the early 90s. He is credited with empowering Netherlands' pool players Niels Feijen and Alex Lely, and Russian players Ruslan Chinachov and Konstantin Stepanov." Up to you, but I reckon my suggestion improves on readability of prose.

Career[edit]

I removed an additional space between "9-11" and the period on the second sentence of third paragraph.
Changed "Ruijsink would take over as captain" to "took over. Small c/e
Another small c/e to sentence structure

Achievements[edit]

The only major red flag (quite literally flagged red by my script) is the use of Daily Express as a source. It is considered generally unreliable per WP:RSP. For this particular fact, I do not really see an issue. However I think if you can find one, a better source is preferable. Happy for your thoughts on this.

References[edit]

Reference [1] spot-checked and fine
Reference [4] spot-checked and fine
Reference [5] spot-checked and fine

Notes[edit]

This section is for any communication between us not relating to an issue above. ie: updates etc.

Hi Lee Vilenski nice to work with you. I'm Max. I have done a few GA reviews before. As I still consider myself an intermediate reviewer at best, I try to find low hanging fruit, that is to say articles nominated for GA which are very likely to pass and require little improvement. I have already read the article and assessed it as almost certain to meet all the GA criteria already. However I will go through it in more detail and see if we can "polish the chrome" a little given a quick GA pass can be frowned upon. So, if my issues appear "niggly" please note that is because your work is already high quality and the reason why I chose it for one of my "practice" GA reviews. Given your level of experience, I actually would welcome feedback on my GA reviewing and if you feel I missed anything. I have authored a decent amount of content and had one of my own articles pass GA so I feel somewhat qualified to review this. Please let me know if you have any concerns. MC MaxnaCarta (talk) 07:03, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Made a start, will finish up tomorrow :) MaxnaCarta (talk) 07:22, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I have no issues with you taking up this review. I tend to appreciate anything we can do to make the article better, so I await your thoughts Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:01, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.