Talk:Harry Murray

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August 25, 2008Good article nomineeListed
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August 31, 2008WikiProject A-class reviewApproved
September 16, 2008Featured article candidatePromoted
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GA Review[edit]

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This article has passed the good article nominations process! It fits all the good article criteria, so congratulations! The only improvement I can think of at this time is that an image of the Murray would be nice to be included in the article. Keep up the good work and well done again. Million_Moments (talk) 15:08, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You mean the Murray River? Blnguyen (bananabucket) 01:04, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I tend to miss words out of sentences sometimes. I meant to say an image of the statue of Murray would be nice. Feel like a right moron! Million_Moments (talk) 05:40, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
youse should have picked up the egregious malapropism. E.I. Addio (talk) 00:25, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Opening sentence[edit]

I know that I am probably stepping into territory where some will probably disagree, but coming here from the front page (congrats BTW) an not being a expert on the military or on history, I think the opening sentence is not good. The article is about Mr. Murray, a soldier and hero, not about the Victoria Cross. Steve Dufour (talk) 03:02, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agree
This is not my particular area either. However, the last time a page about an Australian recipient of the VC became the FA, I bought into it, and rewrote the first paragraph, in the hopes that the editors of these pages would take note and follow through.
  • The article is about the man.
  • It is as a soldier that he is notable. If he hadn't been a soldier, he would not have won the award. The first sentence needs to state that he was a soldier.
  • Don't decscribe what the VC is in the first sentence. It is inappropriate. It is inappropriate in every one of these article about VC winners. It is only appropriate in the first sentence about the Victoria Cross itself.
Amandajm (talk) 09:48, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
His notability rests purely on being a VC winner, he didn't achieve high enough rank or do anything else that would otherwise make his miltiary career notable. Experience across a wide variety of articles on VC winners suggests that a brief explanation of what makes winning the VC notable is required. David Underdown (talk) 15:00, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with David. The primary reason why Murray is notable and has an article is the fact that he is a Victoria Cross recipient. Additionally, this is consistent with what all other VC biographical articles are introduced. Additionally, all Medal of Honor bios start out very similar to this, with an introduction on what that decoration is. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 04:42, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Bombing"[edit]

I'm slihgtly surprised this didn't come up in the FA review, now I know taht in this context it refers to the use of grenades, but I suspect it could sue some qualification in the article. David Underdown (talk) 15:06, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think I have clarified this a little now. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 04:44, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Syntax[edit]

...the highest decorated infantry soldier....

— The most highly decorated infantry soldier. (How high was he when he was decorated?) Sca (talk) 17:10, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Umm, what? Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 04:45, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
most highly is probably better gramamr, surprised it got thorough FA like this, with hindsight. David Underdown (talk) 09:35, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 10:01, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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