Talk:Elihu B. Washburne

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Clarify, please[edit]

'He was known for his courage, and met President-elect Abraham Lincoln upon his arrival in Washington, D.C. on February 23, 1861. At the beginning of the American Civil War, an assassination attempt was feared, and other Republican Party leaders were afraid to take on this duty. Washburne and his brothers had hidden the whereabouts of President-elect Lincoln by personally cutting telegraph wires in key locations.'

These three sentences do not seem to relate to each other. The section needs lengthening. Valetude (talk) 01:47, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have been working on updating the article. I will look into reducing any POV in the article. Lincoln's arrival in Washington D.C. was secretive due to security concerns. Both Grant's and Lincoln's "home state" was Illinios. Washburne was a representative for Illinois in Congress. He may have been in charge of getting Lincoln safely to Washington D.C. Cmguy777 (talk) 16:29, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed Cmguy777 (talk) 04:28, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

1880 Republican Convention[edit]

This convention was complicated and contentious. I take that Grant's and Washburne's friendship ended if the two never met again. I do not know if the two corresponded with each other. I believe Grant was upset because Washburne took votes away from his nomination and Washburn was upset because he apparently could have won Garfield if Grant had supported him. Any suggestions on improving the the narration and context ? Cmguy777 (talk) 17:16, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Even if Grant's and Washburne's votes were combined it would not have gotten then 379 votes to win the nomination. Cmguy777 (talk) 17:32, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's true that adding in Washburne's votes alone wouldn't have nominated Grant. But if Washburne's delegates had voted for Grant and boosted Grant's total from the 300-310 range where it was for most of the convention into the range of 340 or 350, that might have produced enough pro-Grant momentum to win him the nomination.

On the flip side, I assume Washburne believed that if Grant withdrew after he realized he could not be nominated, and Grant's 300 or so delegates began looking for an alternative, they might have turned to Washburne.

Billmckern (talk) 20:42, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I agree. I believe it should added to the article the part about momentum and Grant or Washburne carrying the nomination. That would give the reader better understanding on how Garfield got the nomination. Concerning Washburne, I don't think Grant would have blinked because he viewed Washburne as a subordinate. Cmguy777 (talk) 06:21, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Cmguy777: -- Check out the work I did today on the 1880 convention section and let me know what you think.

Billmckern (talk) 15:00, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Billmckern: The new section looks great ! I think the 1880 Republican convention deserved it's own section. Thanks Cmguy777 (talk) 16:29, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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