Talk:Drill music

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Semi-protected edit request on 21 October 2015[edit]

Lynn laww (talk) 01:08, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 21 October 2015[edit]

Lynn laww (talk) 01:11, 21 October 2015 (UTC) dave millions is a up and coming rapper hes all about drill music[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Right now, we don't have an article on Millions, and he doesn't seem notable enough to merit a mention at the moment. Altamel (talk) 01:27, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

london[edit]

What about London drill music Hellakwenginss (talk) 10:47, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Who the best on this in london? 

Youngchato (talk) 20:51, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Artist list[edit]

I don't think it really makes sense to just dump a list of UK artists (unsourced mind you but they are correct) on top of the U.S list. It implies they're in the same category when really they're making quite different music. I'd suggest separating the list into a US & UK section, or perhaps moving the list of UK Drill artists/producers under the main UK Drill section of the article. Both of which make more sense for me but I didn't wanna just do it without mentioning.

Madbrad200 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:52, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Gritty"?[edit]

"Gritty" is a very ambiguous word, and is probably jargon of some kind. Definitely not encyclopedic. Sandpaper is gritty. This isn't supposed to be a street rag about some insider topic. It should be understandable to all readers.77Mike77 (talk) 02:07, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comments. I will make sure they are forwarded to the correct departments posthaste. —BLZ · talk 05:58, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Controversy" section?[edit]

Drill is currently receiving a fair amount of negative publicity, with London's Metropolitan Police Commissioner singling it out as a major influence on gang crime in the city: is it time for the article to have a section dedicated to this debate? ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 08:26, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

From a single BBC article? I would say no. If more articles can be found from different similarly reputable publications about connections being made between grime drill and violence, then that would be sufficient to include a subsection for it under UK grime drill (since that style, specifically, appears to be the one implicated). LifeofTau 18:11, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Has received nationwide TV news coverage in UK today, which is why I added a new piece. Plenty more sources available. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:30, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed it's been pretty big news here. The problem with "grime" is that it's the face of urban music here and as such, everything is lumped under it even though doing so isn't really accurate at all. That said, the videos that were removed have all been UK Drill videos rather than grime. Would be easy to find more sources if they're needed. See: [1] [2] [3] etc Madbrad200 (talk)
Writing grime instead of drill was an error on my part. My apologies. LifeofTau 19:30, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Hills, Megan C. "YouTube Has Removed Half Of 'Violent' Drill Music Videos At The British Police's Request". Forbes. Retrieved 2018-05-31.
  2. ^ "YouTube is removing UK drill videos that police say incite violence". Mixmag. Retrieved 2018-05-31.
  3. ^ "YouTube Removes Over 30 "Violent" Music Videos as Police Target UK Drill | Pitchfork". pitchfork.com. Retrieved 2018-05-31.

Drill video describing real-life murder[edit]

I added a case of a murder in which the killers boasted about it in a drill video, which was used in evidence against them. It's backed by a BBC report & it's important enough to include in this article.[1] Jim Michael (talk) 21:38, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to agree. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:43, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The edit needs a more complete discussion, not just the listing of one murder. This article and others discuss how drill music may be associated with violent crime in the UK. I'd suggest a more thorough edit. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:50, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No objection. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:14, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome to add to it. The murder in question is directly linked to drill, so it should be included. Jim Michael (talk) 22:29, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The murder makes mention of drill, but because Wikipedia is not a newspaper I'd suggest the edit have some depth. If I have time I will write something, but restoring the edit as it was would be of little benefit to this article, when in fact there is more to it. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:23, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The article in The Guardian that you've linked is already used as a source in the preceding paragraph, which discusses violent crime? I don't see why Jim Michael's contribution could not be simply added to that paragraph as it seems wholly relevant. The paragraph could be expanded further, if required. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:10, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I have no objection to expansion or my addition being incorporated into an existing paragraph. It's useful & relevant - drill musicians committed a murder, boasted about it in a drill video, & that video was used in evidence against the murderers. Jim Michael (talk) 14:21, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "How a drill music video foreshadowed a murder". BBC News. Retrieved 2 August 2018.

"Influence" section summary[edit]

Drill music has received a lot of backlash since the beginning of its era. In the subheading section of influence of drill music, I explain the two different viewpoints about the topic with sources to back it up. The viewpoints are from public key figures such as police and the other is from a drill rapper himself. The police see drill music as some type of threat to society that glorify violence and I give examples to their actions to fight back against drill influence by taking down drill music videos to shutting down concerts. The other perspective on drill music is that the rappers are only rapping about the society they are living it and will continue rapping the same way until the circumstance changes. After those two perspectives on drill, I end it with a study from a psychology professor which he agrees that there mixed evidence whether if the music itself is the one to blame for the violence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DragonDrip100 (talk • contribs) 18:19, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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UK Drill[edit]

Being as there as entire article dedicated to UK Drill music, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_drill), should the subgenre of UK Drill music in this article be pared back a bit? 2A02:C7F:F042:B400:5D6C:E1CD:F6EE:9574 (talk) 17:42, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Drill music[edit]

What is trap music? Do you mean rap music. 68.184.222.125 (talk) 21:32, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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My name is Dimitri end I like.,. Rap for you gays poem[edit]

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Error: link of RondoNumbaNine linked to Lil Durk's page[edit]

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