Talk:Battle of Khaybar

date of the battle

the date of the battle is stated with 629

in the list of expeditions of Muhammad the date of this battle is mei/June 628 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_expeditions_of_Muhammad (Nr. 53) with this footnote:

Watt, W. Montgomery (1956). Muhammad at Medina. Oxford University Press. p. 2. ISBN 978-0195773071. Muhammad had thus
a straightforward reason for attacking Khaybar. The moment he chose for the attack May /June 628 (i/y) shortly after his return from the expedition
of al-Hudaybiyah was one when it was also convenient for him to have booty to distribute to his followers whose expectations had
recently been disappointed.

so what is the right date?

"to be exempted from military service"

Is that a euphemism for being prohibited from owning weapons, armor, mounts and learning and practicing fighting skills?

Semi protection

{{edit Semi-protected}} Umarabubakr (talk) 17:11, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Renaming request

In my personal opinion, this article should be renamed from "Battle of Khaybar"----->"Siege of Khaybar"

as per Merriam Webster definition of warfare involving permanent defensive structure:

a : a military blockade of a city or fortified place to compel it to surrender b : a persistent or serious attack (as of illness)

2 obsolete : a seat of distinction : throne lay siege to 1 : to besiege militarily 2 : to pursue diligently or persistently

link to Merriam Webster

while from wikipedia itself, Siege were defined by

A siege is a military blockade of a city, or fortress, with the intent of conquering by attrition, or a well-prepared assault. This derives from Latin: sedere, lit. 'to sit'.[1] Siege warfare is a form of constant, low-intensity conflict characterized by one party holding a strong, static, defensive position. Consequently, an opportunity for negotiation between combatants is not uncommon, as proximity and fluctuating advantage can encourage diplomacy. The art of conducting and resisting sieges is called siege warfare, siegecraft, or poliorcetics.

This is typically coupled with attempts to reduce the fortifications by means of siege engines, artillery bombardment, mining (also known as sapping), or the use of deception or treachery to bypass defenses.

applied for for Khaybar conflict as it is mentioned that each fortresses were subdued through deceptions and catapult or Dabbabah/battering ram.Ahendra (talk) 04:05, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm not really seeing any sources that use the word "siege." I'd suggest staying with the current name per WP:COMMONNAME. Puzzledvegetable^{Is it teatime already?} 21:47, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2024

Remove this "and (based on prophetic vision) of conspiring to kill Muhammad" in:

Scottish historian William M. Watt notes the presence in Khaybar of the Banu Nadir, who were working with neighboring Arab tribes to protect themselves from Medina's Muslim community, who had earlier attacked and exiled Jewish tribes, accusing them of violating the Charter of Medina and (based on prophetic vision) of conspiring to kill Muhammad.[13][14][15]

William Watt does not say this and the only source given that states this does not reference where he has got this information from:

[14] Stillman, Norman (1979). The Jews of Arab Lands: A History and Source Book. Philadelphia: Jewish Publication Society of America. p. 14. ISBN 0-8276-0198-0. Historian48 (talk) 17:52, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

 Done. ⸗ Antrotherkus ^{❲ Talk to me! ❳} ⸗ 23:51, 20 February 2024 (UTC)