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Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2023[edit]

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Please replace French-English imperial duopoly with Anglo-French imperial duopoly; this is a more common phrase, and anyway the Mandate wasn't merely to England. 123.51.107.94 (talk) 00:02, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. None of the included citations contain either of the phrases mentioned in the change request. Xan747 (talk) 00:31, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Amin al-Husseini Heading: Ties with the Axis Powers during World War II Subheading: Recruitment

First word of the 3rd sentence has a typo, should be changed from "Riven" to "Driven".

"Riven by interethnic conflict, the region's Jewish, Croat, Roma, Serb and Muslim communities suffered huge losses of life," Mxp071 (talk) 14:21, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done M.Bitton (talk) 17:18, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request January 29, 2024[edit]

In the Amin al-Husseini and antisemitism section, there is a sentence that is very difficult to parse:

Walter Laqueur, Benny Morris, Klaus-Michael Mallmann and Martin Cüppers, the evidential basis for whose claims in their book, translated as "Nazi Palestine" were questioned by Michael Sells as based on selective statements by a few writers taken at face value, share the view that al-Husseini was biased against Jews, not just against Zionists.

Most pressingly, the sentence is a long appositive, and leads a reader to become confused about what is being said.

But, the appositive is also suggests certain inaccurate interpretations. Sells does not mention Laqueur or Morris in his article. His article also does not deny claims about al-Husseini's antisemitism--the article mostly serves to deny claims that al-Husseini played an outsized role in influencing Nazi policy.

My proposed edit is to remove the Sells discussion from the first paragraph and add after the following paragraph:

Historians such as Walter Laqueur, Benny Morris, Klaus-Michael Mallmann and Martin Cüppers share the view that al-Husseini was biased against Jews, not just against Zionists.

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[...] Husseini also states in his memoirs, that he had visited Alfred Rosenberg's Institute for Study of Judaism which had failed to find any way to civilise the Jewish people.

As early as the mid-1940s, accounts circulated which claimed that al-Husseini influenced Nazi antisemitic policy, an article published in The Nation by Eliahu Elath. Michael Sells questions these claims as ahistorical and says that there is little evidence to support the claim that his actions led to significant geopolitical consequences. {Sells citation here}

_{too_much}curiosity (talk) 16:42, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]