Talk:2022 Tour Championship

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Z1720 (talk) 15:37, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

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• ... that Luca Brecel won his debut match at the elite 2022 Tour Championship event, despite not practicing beforehand? Source: https://www.planetsport.com/snooker/news/luca-brecel-overcomes-lack-practice-record-huge-tour-championship-win-judd-trump
• ALT1: ... that a player made five century breaks in consecutive matches for the first time at the 2022 Tour Championship?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Charlie Moore (basketball)
  • Comment: Event still in progress, so chance for better hooks to come.

Created by Lee Vilenski (talk) and HurricaneHiggins (talk). Nominated by Lee Vilenski (talk) at 14:15, 1 April 2022 (UTC).

• I would take such statements with a pinch of salt, plus what he said is that he didn't "really" practice, which is not quite the same as not practicing (at all). Moreover, the hook fact is nowhere to be found in the article!!! IMO the most interesting part of the event is that Ronnie became the first player to make 5 centuries in consecutive matches, as well as the first player to lose despite making 5 centuries in a best of 19 frames, after Ronnie himself 22 years ago... Otherwise this article is new and long enough, awaiting QPQ. No evidence of copyvio. I really hope John beats Neil later... Kingoflettuce (talk) 23:28, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Name Ronnie pl0x, something like "... that Ronnie O'Sullivan became the first player to make five century breaks in consecutive matches at the 2022 Tour Championship?"---why doesn't the original hook read, "...a player won his debut match...?". Kingoflettuce (talk) 22:02, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

I can't say if it matters to name the player or not. Whichever is fine by me. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:05, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

I'll go with ALT2: "... that Ronnie O'Sullivan became the first player to make five century breaks in consecutive matches at the 2022 Tour Championship?" Kingoflettuce (talk) 08:37, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

I'm not saying whether it should matter or not, but surely there's some inconsistency here? I.e. your decision to name Luca in the original hook, but not name Ronnie in ALT1. If pressed I think it absolutely matters that the record-holder be named, insofar as this isn't some trivial factoid about a player falling asleep or suchlike. Kingoflettuce (talk) 08:37, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

In any case the original hook certainly can't run because the hook fact still isn't in the article at the time of writing, nor is it particularly interesting. Article is otherwise new and long enough, thoroughly referenced, & QPQ done. No sign of copyvio, quotes are properly attributed. Kingoflettuce (talk) 08:37, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Promoted ALT2 to Prep 5. Z1720 (talk) 15:37, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 12:37, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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• Copyvio check. I reviewed all matches over 5% found using Earwig's Copyvio Detector. No concerns.
• Images are appropriate. Licences, captions and positioning all OK. Optionally: MOS:ALT says "All readers will be aware this element is an image, so adding 'photograph of' isn't usually necessary" - so "photo of" could be removed from the O'Sullivan and Williams alt text.
• There are a few duplicate links.

Format

• "was the third and final event in the 2021–22 Cazoo Cup series", "first introduced in the 2018–19 snooker season", "the other events in the series were the World Grand Prix and the Players Championship" - not verified by cited source.
  • Added additional cites. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:15, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• "it was the 15th and penultimate ranking event of the 2021–22 snooker season, following the Gibraltar Open and preceding the World Championship." - the source has a lot of TBC's on it, can an updated source be used?
  • To be fair, it's only the venues that were to be confirmed, the dates and order were confirmed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:15, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Three sources for "it was sponsored by car retailer Cazoo" seems like overkill, but not a blocker to GA status.
  • I don't think it quite meets WP:OVERCITE, but I can remove one if you mind.
• "The participants were determined by the points won in the 14 ranking tournaments preceding the Tour Championship" - neither of the sources cited confirms this. (Arguably it's implied)
  • I think the new wording meets this. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:17, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Tournament draw

• Should the seeding numbers in the draw be explained in the intro text?
  • Done Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:30, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Should the parentheses for breaks be explained in the intro text?
  • Done Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:30, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Summary

• "It was Brecel's first victory over Trump in a ranking event" - probably worth adding how many times they had played.
  • Added Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:30, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Optionally, you could add any comments by Higgins after the final.

Cazoo series

• "The top ten players in the Cazoo Cup series are shown below." - what's the source? (The archived source cited before this seems to be an older version, and the unarchived link is dead)
  • Changed to a better archive. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:30, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

References

• Inconsistent between World Snooker/World Snooker Tour/wst.tv (Not a required change for GA)
• What makes sport-onthebox.com ("run entirely by sports fans and sports broadcasting enthusiasts") a reliable source?
  • Removed Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:50, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Some of the BBC Sport refs are missing a publication date. "Higgins to face Robertson in Tour final". BBC Sport. has no dates.
  • Added. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:26, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• "2021–2022 Cazoo Series". Archived from the original on 29 March 2021. Retrieved 27 March 2022. - missing publisher or site
  • Added Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:50, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• No issues.

Hi BennyOnTheLoose - that should be all of the items addressed now. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:26, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Lee Vilenski, there are sStill some duplicate links; otherwise all looks fine. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:03, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Apologies. I missed that part - I think I've fixed this, although I the duplink detector looks weird on mobile. :) Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:25, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

There's one more, on Gibraltar Open, but as the linked text doesn't have the year at the first instance, seems OK. Passing for GA. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:48, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

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