Talk:18 July 2012 Damascus bombing

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Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was DEFERRED. This RM is suspected to have interfered with the functioning of User:RM bot due to being moved during the RM process, and is being closed in an attempt to repair the bot. If this is unsuccessful, the discussion can be reopened once the bot has been repaired. MatthewHaywood (talk) 21:13, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

18 July 2012 Damascus bombing → July 2012 Damascus bombing – WP:NPOV - Syrian state media says it was suicide bomber, opposition that it was remotely detonated bomb. What we know for sure is that bomb exploded, therefore just bombing. EllsworthSK (talk) 16:38, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I oppose the move. The media are covering the suicide bombing way more. --DanielUmel (talk) 16:40, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Which are quoting state media and now started reporting about opposition claim [1] [2]. This is nothing more than WP:IDONTLIKEIT and POV pushing. EllsworthSK (talk) 16:44, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support - it is not common to name an event as "suicide bombing", especially when details are not clear. In most suicide bombings the title is just "bombing".Greyshark09 (talk) 16:45, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support- Clear POV to have suicide bombing in title.Goltak (talk) 17:47, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support for the above reasons. Not confirmed if it was a suicide bombing. Sopher99 (talk) 16:54, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I see that EllsworthSK has been begging for support.--DanielUmel (talk) 16:55, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do you want a hug? EllsworthSK (talk) 17:04, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support; seems reasonable to me. A title shouldn't make factual claims which we're not totally confident of. bobrayner (talk) 17:18, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support I rate EllsworthSK highly as an editor, and agree fully with what he says here. Skirtsy ^{My talkEdits} 19:15, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. EkoGraf (talk) 19:16, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Free Syrian Army clearly announces that it was not a suicide bombing as seen in the reports by The Telegraph in the references.Egeymi (talk) 20:07, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Tradedia (talk) 00:54, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support, sounds reasonable. --Makecat _Talk 12:54, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. James ^{(Talk • Contribs)} • 11:29pm • 13:29, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

I think the above discussion should not be reopened at this point because it was originally opened as a move from 18 July 2012 Damascus suicide bombing. So some of the comments above are in support of a move that has already happened, this move happened while this requested move was still open. So anyone still wanting this article moved, should open a new request below. The cause of the RM bot's disappearance has not yet been determined. Wbm1058 (talk) 19:16, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

Please give expanded references. Thanks,Egeymi (talk) 19:12, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done all the current ones properly. Skirtsy ^{My talkEdits} 19:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Skirtsy for your fixing.Egeymi (talk) 19:58, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Connections with May 2012 claims[edit]

As it can be seen in this link, the officials killed or wounded in this bombing had been subjects of the FSA's claims about killings in May 2012. I put this message and link just for those interested in the events.Egeymi (talk) 07:36, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Time of event[edit]

Has anyone seen a time of this event? There is not one in our entry, and I have not seen it on the usual mostly reliable sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dioxinfreak (talk • contribs) 17:11, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Intelligence Chief[edit]

Syrian State TV now saying the Chief of Intelligence has succumbed to his wounds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.232.180.64 (talk) 09:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Terrorism"?[edit]

It sounds rather POV to label this incident "terrorism" or "murder" considering it was executed within the context of civil war, against a criminal regime responsible for murdering tens of thousands of innocent civilians by shooting, bombing, torture in prisons, etc. How about the July 1944 bombing against Hitler's government, was that "terrorism"? Or the bombing last November which assassinated several ISIS leaders, in the view of ISIS this surely was "terrorism" and "murder".