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@Curb Safe Charmer: This page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, because even though it appears to have actually been taken from https://on-writering.blogspot.com/2022/03/towards-evolutionary-philosophy-page-on.html , the author of the latter blogpost also seems to potentially be the author of this draft (since the blogpost is signed off as "JTV", whereas the draft creator is "Joeteevee"). --Duckmather (talk) 02:41, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Legally, that's not how it works, read WP:COPYVIO. -Lopifalko (talk) 08:48, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Lopifalko,
FYI: (if it helps, to clarify?)
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[subscribe]Contested deletion[edit][edit]

@Curb Safe Charmer: This page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, because even though it appears to have actually been taken from https://on-writering.blogspot.com/2022/03/towards-evolutionary-philosophy-page-on.html , the author of the latter blogpost also seems to potentially be the author of this draft (since the blogpost is signed off as "JTV", whereas the draft creator is "Joeteevee"). --Duckmather (talk) 02:41, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply][reply]

Legally, that's not how it works, read WP:COPYVIO. -Lopifalko (talk) 08:48, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply][reply]
Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 22:57, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply][reply][reply]
@Joeteevee: I found that the draft was actually a copypaste of on-writering.blogspot.com/2022/03/towards-evolutionary-philosophy-page-on.html, but now that I think of it ... are you the blogpost's author? The names match (you're "Joeteevee", whereas the author originally signed off as "JTV"), and also the blogpost begins with a preamble about writing a not-ready-to-show draft of a potential Wikipedia entry for the topic, which makes it actually being copied here to English Wikipedia more plausible. Duckmather (talk) 02:43, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply][reply][reply]
Hi Duckmather
Many thanks for this.
Re:
"I found that the draft was actually a copypaste of on-writering.blogspot.com/2022/03/towards-evolutionary-philosophy-page-on.html, but now that I think of it ... are you the blogpost's author?"
JTV says: Yes; that would explain, why that blog post of mine [on-writering.blogspot.com/2022/03/towards-evolutionary-philosophy-page-on.html] begins with, indeed, as you say: "a preamble about writing a not-ready-to-show draft of a potential Wikipedia entry for the topic". (Well spotted. You are correct!)
Re:
"The names match (you're "Joeteevee", whereas the author originally signed off as "JTV"), and also the blogpost begins with a preamble about writing a not-ready-to-show draft of a potential Wikipedia entry for the topic, which makes it actually being copied here to English Wikipedia more plausible. Duckmather (talk) 02:43, 21 January 2024 (UTC)"
JTV says: Yes indeed. So, now it should be clearer, why they match.
(That blog post was indeed about a future entry on this topic; this submitted Wikipedia entry is, that article.)
As an aside Duckmather, may I say - good (i.e., commendable) work, on spotting any potential plagiarism (but, in this case, it's not plagiarism; I am indeed the author of both articles; and, am not plagiarizing myself.)
Also, in case it perhaps helps with the approval / publishing process, for me (the author/submitter) to give you more context (as to why I am submitting the article):
- I have a PhD in Evolutionary Culturology (since 2016), so I myself am a meta-meta-scientist (an Evolutionary Culturologist); I am not a philosopher. So, since Science and Philosophy are different domains, there is no `conflict of interest' for me, as there might perhaps otherwise be, if I was a professional philosopher; which, I can confirm, I am not).
- One key reason for submitting the article is: when I was doing my PhD (2012-2016) I, for one, (and many others in the same position) would have benefited greatly (i.e., it would have saved me a lot of time) if there was already a Wikipedia article on "Evolutionary Philosophy" (like the one I have submitted, including a survey of the domain and field). If and when published on Wikipedia, the article should also save a lot of other Evolutionary Philosophers a lot of time, so I would expect, it would be of great benefit to many people, and to knowledge in general.
- As an another aside (which may or may not be relevant; not sure?), I have also published formal encyclopedia articles previously, in peer-reviewed scientific Encyclopedias (2017 & 2020).
(e.g. See: https://orcid.org/0000-0001-6741-066X)
[Those 2 encyclopedia articles (2017 & 2020) were not on this specific topic, i.e. `Evolutionary Philosophy'. Those encyclopedia entries were on: the meta-meta-science of Evolutionary Culturology.]
At any rate, thank you again for this note, Duckmather, and, I do hope (?) it should be clear now, why the Wikipedia article I've submitted here is rather similar to the one on my weblog (about: planning to submit this article, to Wikipedia.)
So - thank you again, and, I wonder, are we perhaps able to approve the article for publication?
(I'm sure others can and will improve/expand the article as time goes on, but for now, I believe it is a serious "gap in the literature" within Wikipedia, that there is not currently an entry on "Evolutionary Philosophy", when it (Evolutionary Philosophy) has been firmly established as a domain in culture (and as a field, in literature and academia) since Dennett's "Darwin's Dangerous Idea" (1995).)
I look forward to your thoughts,
Best regards,
~JTV Joeteevee (talk) 18:29, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply][reply][reply]

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Joeteevee (talk) 14:20, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 22:57, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply][reply]
@Joeteevee: I found that the draft was actually a copypaste of on-writering.blogspot.com/2022/03/towards-evolutionary-philosophy-page-on.html, but now that I think of it ... are you the blogpost's author? The names match (you're "Joeteevee", whereas the author originally signed off as "JTV"), and also the blogpost begins with a preamble about writing a not-ready-to-show draft of a potential Wikipedia entry for the topic, which makes it actually being copied here to English Wikipedia more plausible. Duckmather (talk) 02:43, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply][reply]
Hi Duckmather
Many thanks for this.
Re:
"I found that the draft was actually a copypaste of on-writering.blogspot.com/2022/03/towards-evolutionary-philosophy-page-on.html, but now that I think of it ... are you the blogpost's author?"
JTV says: Yes; that would explain, why that blog post of mine [on-writering.blogspot.com/2022/03/towards-evolutionary-philosophy-page-on.html] begins with, indeed, as you say: "a preamble about writing a not-ready-to-show draft of a potential Wikipedia entry for the topic". (Well spotted. You are correct!)
Re:
"The names match (you're "Joeteevee", whereas the author originally signed off as "JTV"), and also the blogpost begins with a preamble about writing a not-ready-to-show draft of a potential Wikipedia entry for the topic, which makes it actually being copied here to English Wikipedia more plausible. Duckmather (talk) 02:43, 21 January 2024 (UTC)"
JTV says: Yes indeed. So, now it should be clearer, why they match.
(That blog post was indeed about a future entry on this topic; this submitted Wikipedia entry is, that article.)
As an aside Duckmather, may I say - good (i.e., commendable) work, on spotting any potential plagiarism (but, in this case, it's not plagiarism; I am indeed the author of both articles; and, am not plagiarizing myself.)
Also, in case it perhaps helps with the approval / publishing process, for me (the author/submitter) to give you more context (as to why I am submitting the article):
- I have a PhD in Evolutionary Culturology (since 2016), so I myself am a meta-meta-scientist (an Evolutionary Culturologist); I am not a philosopher. So, since Science and Philosophy are different domains, there is no `conflict of interest' for me, as there might perhaps otherwise be, if I was a professional philosopher; which, I can confirm, I am not).
- One key reason for submitting the article is: when I was doing my PhD (2012-2016) I, for one, (and many others in the same position) would have benefited greatly (i.e., it would have saved me a lot of time) if there was already a Wikipedia article on "Evolutionary Philosophy" (like the one I have submitted, including a survey of the domain and field). If and when published on Wikipedia, the article should also save a lot of other Evolutionary Philosophers a lot of time, so I would expect, it would be of great benefit to many people, and to knowledge in general.
- As an another aside (which may or may not be relevant; not sure?), I have also published formal encyclopedia articles previously, in peer-reviewed scientific Encyclopedias (2017 & 2020).
(e.g. See: https://orcid.org/0000-0001-6741-066X)
[Those 2 encyclopedia articles (2017 & 2020) were not on this specific topic, i.e. `Evolutionary Philosophy'. Those encyclopedia entries were on: the meta-meta-science of Evolutionary Culturology.]
At any rate, thank you again for this note, Duckmather, and, I do hope (?) it should be clear now, why the Wikipedia article I've submitted here is rather similar to the one on my weblog (about: planning to submit this article, to Wikipedia.)
So - thank you again, and, I wonder, are we perhaps able to approve the article for publication?
(I'm sure others can and will improve/expand the article as time goes on, but for now, I believe it is a serious "gap in the literature" within Wikipedia, that there is not currently an entry on "Evolutionary Philosophy", when it (Evolutionary Philosophy) has been firmly established as a domain in culture (and as a field, in literature and academia) since Dennett's "Darwin's Dangerous Idea" (1995).)
I look forward to your thoughts,
Best regards,
~JTV Joeteevee (talk) 18:29, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply][reply]