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List of astronomical societies[edit]

Hello. Please desist on your expansion of this list. Lists on Wikipedia are NOT EXHAUSTIVE. The entries on the list must be NOTABLE. Entries in lists are required to have a Wikipedia article. The lists are for NAVIGATING WIKIPEDIA and not for any other purpose. What you are doing is NOT ENCYCLOPEDIC. See WP:NOTDIRECTORY and WP:LISTCRITERIA. You do not just get to remove the word "notable" from the list criteria from the list description and then fill the list with so many entries that it is not useful. Please discuss such major changes on the talk pages of articles before proceeding. That's how thing are done here. Thank you! Skyerise (talk) 11:58, 16 February 2018 (UT)

Your recent edits[edit]

People should only be in Category:Dutch football managers if they have managed - not if they have been a coach, physio, scout etc. Players should only be in Category:Dutch expatriate football managers if they have managed abroad, ie outside of the Netherlands. Please be more careful. GiantSnowman 13:49, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Kick van der Vall[edit]

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Kick van der Vall moved to draftspace[edit]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Kick van der Vall has been accepted[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Olympic Games women's football squads[edit]

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Aaron Hunt - Reply[edit]

Hi there Dutchy, fro Portugal,

Here's my two cents on the subject: after your edit, that first paragraph was left as follows: "After spending his first season at SV Werder Bremen in the reserves, in the year the team achieved the double." Makes no sense like that (After spending his first season with the reserves... well, what happened?), thus i reverted to the previous version.

You also say that only one club was mentioned in that part, hence no need for the word "former", but turns out it was two (Werder's first team and the reserves, i do acknowledge the average reader may get lost because the reserves' link is hidden). I have now composed sentence a bit further, tell me what you think of it.

Attentively, sorry for the inconvenience and happy editing --Quite A Character (talk) 18:18, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]


A barnstar for you![edit]

The Original Barnstar
Thank you for keeping CSV Apeldoorn up-to-date! gidonb (talk) 18:22, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your DYK nomination[edit]

Dutchy45, thank you for your interest in DYK. Unfortunately, your nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/grande torino appears to have been of two articles, neither of which you have worked on, and neither of which has been edited within the previous seven days, much less expanded fivefold. The nomination has been marked for closure as unsuccessful, since both articles are of such a size that expanding either to five times its current length is not at all feasible.

Before you make any further DYK nominations, I'd like to suggest that you go to WP:DYK to get a feel for what types of articles DYK is intended for, and what the DYK criteria are. Thanks again. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:01, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How to ask for a redirect to be discussed[edit]

Hello, I noticed you asked at WP:AFC/R to retarget a redirect. That is the wrong venue. The correct venue is WP:RFD -- Redirects for Discussion -- where you can start a discussion on retargetting the redirect of your choice.

HTH.

-- 67.70.26.89 (talk) 18:22, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the easy way is to
Where the content of a redirect is:
where the page in concern is "RedirectName"
#REDIRECT:[[TargetArticle]]
other stuff
(1)You then enter
{{subst:rfd|content=
#REDIRECT:[[TargetArticle]]
other stuff
}}
by surrounding the old content with the subst
(2)And Press Save
(3) Go to this link [1]
(4) and then enter (at the bottom of the page if you can't figure out where to put it at the top)
{{subst:Rfd2|redirect=RedirectName|target=TargetArticle|text= what do you want to do with it? Retarget, delete? Why you want to do it }}
(5) Press save
(6) That should do it, though you probably should leave a message to the WikiProjects invovled with the redirect and the targets (old and new, when you want to retarget a redirect) and maybe the involved editors of the redirect and targets; and ofcourse leave talk page messages at the target articles.
-- 67.70.26.89 (talk) 02:00, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

David Frost[edit]

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Renaming pages[edit]

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2022 Africa Women Cup of Nations qualification moved to draftspace[edit]

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French Revolution[edit]

Thanks for this attempt at a fix at French Revolution. I kind of figured you might not be en-N, based on that; it's a subtle and squirrely point of grammar. I reverted, but that restores a sentence structure that, while grammatically correct again, is complex and less than clear. The fact that it tripped you up at en-5 means it's too complex for en-wiki. Have a go at changing the sentence around, assuming you understand why "to produce" is correct there; if not, remind me and I'll have a go tomorrow. Mvg, Mathglot (talk) 08:58, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Help me![edit]

Please help me with... After a discussion at the teahouse, see here, I wanted to ask for help removing Category:Italian television series debuts from Category:Establishments in Italy. I don't know how to do that, apparently it involves a template. If you look at what's in the parent category, it is clear TV shows are really out of place there. I've also had a look at Category:Establishments in the United Kingdom and 1 of the categories in there is Category:British television series debuts‎, so it obviously is a wider issue. Maybe somebody with (much) more editing experience compared to me can clear this up? Dutchy45 (talk) 15:31, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dutchy45, at the Teahouse, you asked about WP:Tfd, and a user agreed that this was a good place to start. I don't see that you've raised a discussion there, yet; perhaps you could try that route? Mathglot (talk) 19:10, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Just a friendly note: I think it would be very unwise to edit existing category systems without getting clear consensus. You should be aware that any hierarchical system of categorisation has severe limits, which lead to workarounds like calling TV shows an “establishment”. Personally I believe you are discovering the limitations and problems with the English Wikipedia’s category system. My advise: avoid a lot of heart ache and leave this one be. Categories are, in my opinion, fairly inconsequential in the grand scheme of things anyway. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 22:01, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well Aussie Article Writer (talk · contribs), I think I'm in the process of discovering those limitations :) When I started it, I assumed it would be non-controversial. Your advice is probably sound but, for now, I'm kind of curious to see how this plays out. Nevertheless, it won't be edited without that clear consensus. Somebody would have to do it and it's beyond my wiki-editing skills. So, I'd have to ask somebody, pointing to the consensus on the talk page discussion to back me up. Besides I'm not the kind of editor who stubbornly does something against the spirit of WP. Regards, --Dutchy45 (talk) 17:37, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

1912[edit]

Hi Dutchy45, I have reverted the vandalism on the 1912 article. Thanks for letting us know. PhilKnight (talk) 15:44, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Women's football clubs in Spain[edit]

Hi, just wondering if/when you are going to finish re-naming the clubs in the above category? At the moment there are still 13 teams with 'Femenino' or similar in the title, and I think all of these are affiliated to men's clubs so probably don't have that word as part of the official name. Three of these also have categories which will have to be requested for re-naming to be consistent with the article title, and this is also the case for Athletic Club and FC Barcelona which you have already changed. Thanks. Crowsus (talk) 06:20, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Crowsus, I had planned on working on that a couple of weeks ago. I had (and still have) to unexpectedly deal with stuff IRL and have been away from WP for a couple of weeks. I still plan on doing more work there, but can't put a timetable on it. I'm aware of the categories. My idea was/is to get approval "women's football wide" (if you get my drift), because this isn't a problem solely concerning Spain. Dutchy45 (talk) 21:26, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply and I do understand, just didn't want to see it unfinished. Crowsus (talk) 22:39, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Crowsus, I've opened a discussion on this subject at Talk:Real Madrid Femenino. Perhaps you'd like to give your 2 cents. --Dutchy45 (talk) 14:54, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Dutchy45 and Crowsus: I've done the same at Category:Women's football clubs in Italy, based on the Italian FA's official names. The only club I can't move is A.C. Milan Women (which should be A.C. Milan (women)). I had tried to move it last year, but the result was no consensus. Nehme1499 00:47, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There is an ongoing move request at U.S. Sassuolo Calcio Femminile, in case you guys are interested. Nehme1499 00:48, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2022 FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup squads moved to draftspace[edit]

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Career stats tables[edit]

Hi there. Please familiarise yourself with the standard table layout as outlined at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Players. It is the result of past discussions of the community of football editors at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football. Specifically:

  • Goals should not be bolded,
  • "venues, opponents and competitions should not be rowspanned across different matches. Instead, they should be rowspanned within the same match".

Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 00:02, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Took me a while to learn about it as well. Happy editing, Robby.is.on (talk) 19:32, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template documentation[edit]

Please do not remove template documentation, as you did here. Also, {{ccot}} belongs in the /doc page, as <includeonly>{{ccot}}</includeonly>; it is not part of the template code itself.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  16:06, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @SMcCandlish,
It seemed like a simplyfied improvement to me. I suppose I was wrong, my bad. I guess I was a little out of my depth there. I'll leave template documentation alone from now on. However I put it as <noinclude>{{ccot}}</noinclude>. I thought that was the correct place. I'm not trying to be a smart guy here. I honestly don't understand your second sentence, and I would like to. Could you explain?
Regards, Dutchy45 (talk) 18:21, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Every template should have a documentation page, even if it's short. :-) The {{ccot}} is an editor tool to analyze template usage. It is not part of the {{Cue sports}} navbar template code to transclude into articles, so it doesn't belong inside the template itself. If you put it on the template's documentation page, as I did, and enclose it in <includeonly>...</includeonly>, then it will show up (be included, or technically transcluded) at Template:Cue sports among the documentation of the template, for use in analyzing that template, but will not show up if you go to Template:Cue sports/doc, where we have no use of it – there is no reason to analyze usage of Template:Cue sports/doc (which has no use other than being the documentation of the template), only of Template:Cue sports, which is used in a bunch of articles. And the ccot still will not show up in articles, since it's part of the noincluded template documentation not part of the template code per se. While doing <includeonly>{{ccot}}</includeonly> inside the template didn't break anything in articles, it's extraneous clutter in the template code, thus moving it to the /doc page. Hopefully that is clearer. Learning all the ins and outs of template coding [why do we call them templates instead of scripts like they would be called anywhere else?] takes a while.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  19:05, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I'm gonna need some time to digest all this but that's my problem. You have my gratitude. Dutchy45 (talk) 19:12, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
PS: When adding navbars to articles, it is better to put the more specific one(s) above the more general ones, since the reader is more apt to want the more specific ones. I guess alpha order might be better if there were a whole bunch of them, but in that case it's probably time to rethink why the article has (and is in) so many navbars.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  19:08, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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